Written by David Wilcock Sunday, 12 September 2010 11:50
David discusses health and nutrition in this 90-minute FREE video with pioneer truth crusader David Wolfe and his sergeant-at-arms, Dr. Nick Good! Jump in and join this exciting discussion!
LOTS OF GOOD STUFF HAPPENING
I thank you so much for all your positive feedback about the "Management Notice" I posted last week. It means a lot to me! I'm delighted to finally be in a space where I can get that data to flow in.
I know I've done good work when I myself can read it and see things a different way -- and feel like I got something out of it rather than just re-iterating what I already knew.
I've been through a lot of healing work to feel clear enough to pull in a good reading like the old days, where things were so much simpler -- and I'm very pleased with the results!
The video you are about to see was shot while I was in Hawaii, right before turning around and doing my crop circle tour. The above photograph is one of four incredible formations we got to walk around in during that trip -- which was quite an experience!
Since this video is very different than what I usually discuss, I want to set it up a bit before we dive in.
CARE OF THE BODY IS A MAJOR PART OF THE GALACTIC MIND
In the Law of One series, 22 'archetypes' are described in detail. These represent the 22 basic clusters of experience we all have to go through in order to reach a full awakening.
[You can right-click and download a study guide about the archetypes here. And this site has the single best collection of Law of One materials, including all the original sessions and a link to our own Study Guide, which is currently the best overview.]
These 22 archetypes are, if you will, the 'personality' of the Logos -- which is the mind of the Galaxy as a singular consciousness.
Of these 22 archetypes, fully seven of them are associated with the body. In order to truly awaken, your body must run through a similar series of stages of awakening just like the mind (the first seven) and the spirit, which is the last seven.
One additional archetype represents the origin of the quest for enlightenment -- and is known as "the Fool."
The archetypes of the body come after the mind in this system, meaning that you may not even realize the importance of initiating the body until you've already become quite wise -- and gathered a great deal of information.
HIGHER EDUCATION
Back in 1996-2000, I pulled in readings from my Higher Self several times a week. It was, for me, a very valuable form of "higher education."
Even after I started taking clients professionally in July 1998, I still did personal readings for myself routinely. I was consistently guided to help make the best decisions in a variety of situations.
After a while I didn't really feel I needed to do personal readings anymore, as I still tracked my dreams every morning. I knew that dreams were 100-percent secure data -- there was no way my conscious mind could tamper with the data even slightly.
SCREENING OUT CONSCIOUS-MIND INFLUENCE
As any good intuitive knows, it is significantly more difficult to screen out conscious-mind influence when trying to pull in data for yourself than it is when doing work for others, or on topics of general interest.
Anyone who tells you their intuitive readings are 100 percent 'source', with not a whisper of conscious mind overlay, is deluding themselves.
I went through extensive coaching on how to recognize when I had influenced the words -- and was very strongly admonished to try to master the discipline of non-interference as much as possible.
Even still, doing this work for yourself is extremely difficult. As soon as your mind thinks it understands what is coming in, and / or tries to track the information just out of interest, you've broken protocol and are no longer getting good data.
At this point you need to immediately stop speaking or writing, and again try to bring yourself to the deepest possible state of trance you can -- even if it takes several minutes to get back there.
Unfortunately, very few people who channel are actually following this protocol. It is extremely, extremely difficult and requires a devoted meditative lifestyle and excellent physical and psychological health.
DREAMS ARE PREFERABLE FOR PERSONAL GUIDANCE
Of course, with dream data you still have to interpret what comes in, but the more you study the language and practice the discipline of documenting them, the more easy it becomes to figure out what they are telling you.
For any important issue in my life, I will make sure I get at least three strong dream 'pings' before I consider that I understand the message that is being conveyed.
Even then, dreams are multi-dimensional. I have had cases where I've had day after day of dreams -- for weeks -- and found that although I understood them on one level, there was a deeper theme that I had totally missed, but was repeating every day.
This often happens on the biggest stumbling blocks -- the things we consistently have the most significant blind-spots about in our lives.
BE YOUR OWN BIGGEST SKEPTIC
With intuitive readings, you have to go very, very deep to get personal data about yourself that can be trusted.
For me, it often will come in under heavily encrypted sentences, where they are just too complex and metaphorically symbolic to mentally track at such a slow delivery speed.
Even so, you always have to be your own biggest skeptic.
As a humorous example, almost every day we get letters from people telling us their higher self said they are about to enter into a romantic parternship with me.
Another unfortunate but frequent situation is people writing in saying they are guided to start some huge civic organization for the greater good -- but it rarely is more than a brief written proposal and a lot of wishful thinking.
You don't need to do anything grandiose to be on your path -- as last week's reading said, the most important key is to awaken to the compassion and forgiveness of self and others that is always available in the Now.
CERTAIN FACTORS WERE ESSENTIAL
My own intuitive contact might not have even been possible without certain key factors in my life:
1. I was totally free of all mind-altering chemicals since September 1992 -- no alcohol, no marijuana, no pharmaceuticals except antibiotics or painkillers in very seldom emergency cases;
2. Since September 1992, I had been writing my dreams down every morning, and working to analyze their meanings;
3. In the struggle to conquer my adult acne, (thankfully never on my face,) I kept increasingly purifying my diet -- which by mid-1995 had become no fried food, no white flour, no refined sugar, no dairy, no eggs and no meat;
4. Routinely journaling my life's experiences in writing, with the intention of understanding why things were happening and what I could do to improve myself (this became a daily practice after the contact started);
5. Reading all five books of the Law of One series, beginning in January 1996, which created the final 'tuning' I needed to receive my own communication once these other factors were in place.
The 'tuning' is a key element -- and in my videos, radio shows and articles, I try to always present information that helps achieve this 'tuning' for everyone who encounters it.
The most bombastic 'haters' are usually just verbalizing the inner conflict they wrestle with from years of cynicism and distrust of the Universe.
Again... I can truly say that if you do the work on yourself, you too will discover that "It's all good."
"THE EXTENT NECESSARY FOR THE HEALTH OF THE PHYSICAL BODY"
In the Law of One series, when Ra was asked about diet, they said (paraphrased,) "and to the extent necessary for the health of the physical body, [you can eat] the animal products."
Other channeled books I read and enjoyed had suggested this was not the case -- but it took me a long time to reflect on it and realize that the Law of One series is by far the most trustworthy source to consult on this issue.
Of course, notice the careful wording of the quote. Some people may not need animal products for a healthy body -- but I think this is rare, and in my case I found out that I definitely did.
When I moved in with the founders of the Law of One series in 2003, I dropped my strict dietary ban on animal products. I already had started blending fish in occasionally by the time I had arrived, and was surprised at how much better I felt for 3-4 days after having some.
At L/L Research, I was encouraged to be part of the group and therefore eat what everyone else was eating. I still avoided dairy, eggs, white flour, refined sugar and conventionally-grown produce, but I did re-introduce animal products to my diet.
I mentioned this at the time on my website, but didn't really obsess on it once I had made the change.
THE 'ETHICAL MEAT DIET'
I do strongly believe in the value of a great diet, and particularly with the knowledge we now have about Activator X (as discussed in my section of the Pete Peterson video with Project Camelot), it seems that having some degree of animal products in your diet is absolutely essential to optimum health.
Since many people have asked me this, I do now have 'ethical meat' in my diet. The key is to avoid factory farming and cruelty as much as possible, as the sorrow these factory animals go through affects your own level of spiritual evolution -- negatively.
[As someone pointed out in the comments section, you may live in a developing country and not have any choice. In this case, if you choose to eat meat, you can help the 'vibration' by blessing your food and thanking the animal for its gift to you, as should ideally be done in all cases.]
At present I have been guided to avoid beef altogether, even allegedly organic beef, but have bison products as a substitute, since there are very strict ethics codes for bison ranchers and they are 100-percent free range.
Pork is always a no-no. Most chicken, turkey and duck is out, even that which is allegedly free-range, unless you can find something from a small local cooperative.
Ostrich, elk and most other wild game is fine. All fish is fine, but wild caught is significantly preferable to farm raised, and sushi is preferable to cooked. Shellfish is not ideal due to potential mercury issues, but it is on the 'ethical' list and I do have it sometimes.
[The above comments have unleashed a firestorm of passionate responses in the comments section -- so I will address them more in an update below.]
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE EXTREME
Admittedly, the 'raw food' diet David Wolfe advocates is about as extreme as you can get. No animal products and nothing that's even been heated above 105-110 degrees.
While this kind of diet can be highly beneficial for your health as a cleanse and detox, I wouldn't want to present it as if you 'must' eat this way.
In fact, I once had a professional dentist as a client who told me he was treating a variety of people on the raw food diet. After a few years of raw-only dieting, they all started experiencing periodontal decay -- even with excellent dental hygiene.
His conclusion was that there are elements in animal products that we all need for our health -- perhaps bone health in particular.
I am just presenting this as his opinion, but those words have stayed with me over the years.
With that in mind, let's go ahead and watch the new video!
UFO X FEST... AND EPIC EDEN HOT SPRINGS TRIP!
This weekend I'm at the UFO X Fest in the California Bay Area, September 18-19! My big post-conference event is on Monday the 20th, and you can order your tickets at this link right here!
Next month I'm at the Epic Eden Hot Springs Retreat, October 6th through 10th, in a sacred, private location nestled between Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona.
David Wolfe often shows up, and it's quite an experience! This next video, while a bit long, is a great overview of the community and the vibes you'll get there!
I will be doing a Power Point lecture and hanging out with people at the event -- so it's a great way to be part of a spiritually aware gathering in a camping-style setting!
LOTS MORE ON THE HORIZON
I still am deeply involved in working on some wonderful new developments that I cannot discuss due to strict non-disclosure agreements, for which there is no wiggle room -- but the news will be awesome once I can announce it!
I also am deeply involved in fine-tuning the CONVERGENCE movie script with my latest, greatest scientific insights, while simultaneously working through rewrite notes for the 2012 Enigma book -- so there is quite a lot to do right now.
Amidst all of this, I'm still maintaining a once-a-month conference schedule.
On November 19-21, I'm back in Phoenix for an all-weekend extravaganza with William Henry, as you see featured on every page of this website right now!
I always take December off and have nothing booked for January, but we're planning on Miami in February, and also developing one or more events in Australia in March.
I also will be speaking at the Conscious Life Expo here in Los Angeles in February as well!
WANDERER AWAKENING
I feel very blessed to have built a whole musical around the spiritual awakening I was led through by the Law of One series and my own personal readings, called "Wanderer Awakening."
If you don't feel like reading anything but still want to experience the core of what the Law of One spiritual teachings tell us, this musical has it all packed in there -- very eloquently.
This musical goes through all the highest highs and the lowest lows of the spiritual journey, with a focus on romantic relationships -- and is structured based on the same storytelling principles as a film screenplay.
The songs were co-produced with my partner, nine-time Grammy-winning musician and composer Larry Seyer, who has engineered the finished-product studio tracks for many top recording artists, some of whom went multi-platinum -- and at our last conference he said he feels this is the finest musical work he's ever done.
We have now released Wanderer Awakening Select, a shortened collection of 17 vocal songs from the collection, for 17.99, so you can find out for yourself what so many people have already discovered -- this project has exceptional production value and may well become a beloved part of your favorite music playlists!
To get the full story with all fifty songs, you can buy Wanderer Awakening Gold at 39.99 -- and other packages offer even more music, including the Galactic version which also features a complete remix of the collection as an acoustic 'Unplugged' exploration.
This is a completely self-financed and self-distributed project, so one hundred percent of your investment goes towards helping insure we can continue providing you lots of great free stuff.
UPDATE NEXT DAY: LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS
It's kind of cool to be vigorously attacked about something besides politics for a change. Quite a refreshing change of pace, in fact.
Obama is over there, and now we're over here. I've managed to completely enrage an entirely new category of people this time. That means we have a teach/learning opportunity coming on here...
Like the political crew, I already know these opinions are very likely not going to change -- so I am writing this for those who have not yet formed a hard-and-fast viewpoint on the topic.
I can be OK with you being vegan, vegetarian, raw or whatever. Last night I had a full meal at Juliano's Planet Raw restaurant on 6th and Broadway in Santa Monica, including a lovely "tortilla soup" that was on special. And I still often order vegan cuisine at various restaurants as well.
My ultimate point is that we can choose to live our lives how we want to, without making other people 'bad' if they choose a different path.
So let's talk about this!
QUICK TO DELIVER THE 'L.R.M.'
When I quit smoking marijuana, for about the first two years or so, I was a passionate anti-drug crusader. I wouldn't hang out with anyone unless they hardly ever, if ever, used any mind-altering chemicals.
Anyone who signaled to me that they were not "on the Path" got an LRM -- a Long Rambling Monologue -- about the evils of chemical dependency, replete with all my scientific evidence.
This mindset was distinctly the result of having done a "90 and 90" -- 90 meetings in 90 days -- within Alcoholics Anonymous and, to a lesser degree, Narcotics Anonymous.
After 90 days, I no longer had any interest in 'using' -- nor did I have any interest in going to meetings. I had quit cold turkey and never went back to the habit -- and still haven't -- after 18 years.
"DRUNKS ONLY"
Though most of the people in these 'rooms' are just trying to stay clean, within the meetings I frequented, there was a clear, obvious and consistent undertone of judgment and condemnation of others.
In a way, you could liken it to an indoctrination -- born of the deep desire of the members to improve their lives by fighting against extremely powerful desires to 'use' that they still had within themselves.
They assumed, by extension, that everyone else had to be as compulsively prone to addiction as they were. No one could 'use' at all without becoming hopelessly lost.
In order to be correct, I had to introduce myself as an 'alcoholic', even though I never even enjoyed getting drunk. One of the meetings I went to would have a handwritten sign on the door that said "DRUNKS ONLY".
NOT A LOT OF GOOD MATERIAL
One of the things that finally got me to leave was I had to strain my mind to the limit to try to remember stories where I actually did drink alcohol -- and did something foolish or harmful to myself or others.
I probably never drank any significant amount of alcohol more than about 20 times at the most.
There was the time I drank a vodka-and-orange-juice 'screwdriver' and my friend accidentally kicked me in the head as I was crawling around on all fours because I couldn't stand up straight.
There was the night this guy threatened me at a party, almost stuck a lit cigarette into my eye, and I pummeled him in a fistfight before they dragged me off of him. [We later talked it out and he respected me for standing up to him and "beating his ass."]
There was the dreaded college 'fondue party' where I drank too many wine coolers, ate way too much cheese and chocolate, and ended up vomiting on all fours when I got back to the suite. All my hard-drinking New York City suitemates gathered around me laughing and mocking -- while I was as sick as I had ever been in my life.
One time I drank a lot of beer at a high school party, and started making a sloppy pass at a cute girl. An experienced drinker and football star gently convinced me to lie down on the couch. When I opened my eyes, everyone was gone and it was 2AM. My buddy immediately handed me another giant plastic cup of beer from the keg.
At that same party, I dropped my pants straight to my ankles while standing up and peeing, and leaned against the wall for support. Of course when this popular guy I was friends with waltzed in and saw that, it was great fodder for graduation-party stories -- I had "passed out up against a wall with my pants down."
THE "FIVE-FINGER DISCOUNT"
Probably the dumbest, most negative thing I ever did to "support the habit" was steal a pack of Marlboro Red cigarettes from an Adirondack country grocery store when I was 'dry', and didn't have any marijuana left.
Yeah. I know. Big whoop. But that was the worst story I had!
There was a big rotating cylinder filled with loose packs of cigarettes right out in the open, in the middle of a secluded aisle.
I was 16, too young to buy them legally, and was dreading spending the whole week at my grandparents' camp without having anything to alter my consciousness in the event that things got confrontational or emotionally rough.
My grandparents did have booze in the house, but I would get so sick from any attempt to drink the hard stuff -- or even the lighter stuff if I wasn't careful -- that I had absolutely no interest in it.
I never even smoked the Marbs, since I hated cigarettes, was terrified of getting caught, and felt obscenely guilty about shoplifting.
A LITTLE 'CREATIVE LICENSE' MIGHT HELP THINGS...
By AA standards, my two-dollar petty crime was a very weak story. I wasn't even 'on' anything when I did it.
I hadn't cheated on a wife, taken advantage of a drunk girl, run out on a pregnancy, yelled at or struck a kid, woken up covered in vomit on the side of a road, totaled a car, broken a bone, smashed up my body, disappeared for days at a time on a bender, lost a job, or even converted needed family food money into booze.
However, if I had raided my grandparents' liquor cabinet... particularly for something gross like Vermouth or Peppermint Schnapps... then at least my Adirondack story would have had some 'bite'. In turn, people would have liked me more -- and given me more support and positive feedback.
So, once everyone had heard the head-kicking, fistfight, fondue, blackout and standing-up stories, it got to the point that I began flirting with the idea of embellishing the Adirondack story -- or even concocting one out of thin air.
I realized this was not the place for me. I had nothing left to process and no desire to ever use again. In support-group parlance, that only meant I was a Dry Drunk.
PEOPLE, PLACES AND THINGS
To put it bluntly, there was a pervasive mindset that anyone who was not in the 'rooms' was in deep, deep trouble.
They were deluding themselves, spiritually bankrupt and needed to immediately change their ways if they wanted to have any chance at soul evolution.
This philosophy is an extension of what they call "People, Places and Things". In order to stay clean, you are advised to completely avoid the "people, places and things" that are, in any way, associated with your chemical dependency.
This can very easily and quickly extend into a mindset where the entire world now becomes your 'devil'.
Only those who are totally sober, within the very rooms you frequent, have any chance at redemption.
Your group is now the elect, the special, the different, the 'chosen'.
Each of you have been self-appointed by your personal ambition and ability to actually stay clean -- or at least heavily shame yourselves in front of the others after every new 'relapse', in the 12-step-group version of 'Confession.'
THE 'TWELFTH STEP'
You, as a Member, have been strong enough to awaken from the 'Matrix' (though this film wasn't out back then) and become one of the Good People.
Everyone else is an outsider, engaged in a mass hallucination. They are walking zombies whose lives are being run by chemicals rather than by the heart.
They do not have a Spiritual Path -- which by definition means the person got sober first, before ever even having any idea about spirituality.
Everyone else is invariably going to "Hit Bottom" and have their lives end in "Diseases, Institutions and Death" if they don't Join the Program -- and begin Working the Steps.
The "Twelfth Step" is where you try convince the outsiders (i.e. everyone else in the world) to join the group.
If they are not already in the group, then they are in Denial.
The power of The Addiction is so vast that unless you're in the Program, you are Active -- and therefore another mindless robot within the worldwide Devil the group is wrestling against.
SURRENDER TO 'THE ROOMS'
Within this system, your only chance to break through Denial is to "admit that you are powerless over" alcohol and / or drugs, and start going to meetings. This means you have now "surrendered to your Higher Power".
Many people in 'the Program' do not have a clear concept of any intelligent, organizing element in the Universe -- and this leads to them worshipping 'the rooms' as if it were their higher power.
Many times I heard people say, "the only Higher Power I know is these rooms... The rooms have changed my life... Without these rooms I would be lost."
The vast majority of every meeting involves 'sharing', where members can take as long as they want to talk about basically whatever they want, as long as it focuses on the addiction in some way.
Many people's 'sharing' invariably features lamentations about how terribly deluded everyone is if they are Not In the Program.
I LEFT -- BUT SOME OF THE PHILOSOPHY STAYED WITH ME
Again, I stopped going after 90 days. I had no further desire to 'use' and I was starting to wish I had better drinking stories to share with The Rooms.
When I realized I was becoming tempted to make things up, or embellish existing stories to add 'sizzle' -- I've always had a passion for creative writing and theatrics -- I saw this was not where I needed to be.
I also felt that any successful treatment plan should not cultivate an ongoing dependency on something else -- in this case The Rooms.
Furthermore, it seemed like almost everyone in 'the rooms' was heavily addicted to caffeine (the invariable three-gallon coffeepot) and refined sugar (the inevitable donuts and cookies) -- and a substantial number of them couldn't even make it through a whole meeting without a smoking break.
I found myself consistently coaching people on the scientific proof that there was, indeed, a Higher Power -- and as a psych major, I could see there was a significant OCD everyone had about Being In The Program.
Nonetheless, I did still feel that if someone was actively using marijuana, alcohol or other drugs, they were creating grievous chemical imbalances that affected how their mind would function -- and I felt compelled to let them know my opinion.
ALL THE EVIDENCE
I had all my evidence right on hand. The use of mind-altering chemicals ultimately bankrupts your ability to ever feel happy because you deplete your serotonin and endorphins -- and without them you are biologically incapable of feeling positive emotions for any sustained length of time.
Even use in moderation, sporadically, will create a distinctly measurable reduction in your ability to feel good about your life and the things that happen to you.
That's also why they recommend a 90 and 90 for 12-step groups. It's going to take you three months before you will feel any type of sustainable happiness, because you're just too serotonin-starved to have those emotions.
I was ready and willing to preach to someone about this even if all they did is make an offhand comment about 'weed'. As a result, I became socially isolated from many thinking and feeling people.
In time, I was guided through a series of experiences that taught me not to criticize and judge others for their behavior and their choices.
When I then extended into a vegan diet, I became just as passionate about that issue.
REALLY GOT INTO IT
In order to be a vegan for seven years, I had to endure all manner of humiliating experiences.
My grandparents got on my case every single time I had dinner with them about why I was 'not eating'.
I did all the research, talked to naturopaths, nutritionists and what have you, followed all the best guidelines to a tee, and tried to optimize my diet as much as possible.
My housemate and I would heckle and debase each other if either of us contemplated going off the diet -- as it takes a lot of structure and discipline to maintain a practice like this.
I had a canvas wallet, non-leather shoes, and never touched animal products of any kind.
I was constantly weak -- to the point that I could barely stand up at work for long periods of time. I had a private meeting with my supervisor where he accused me of being an anorexic and wanted me to use a company-paid counseling program.
I actually had people tell me the circles under my eyes were so dark, my skin so pale and my face so gaunt, that I looked like I had "just stumbled out of Auschwitz."
I remember when a woman I worked with at a teen halfway house told me she had been vegetarian and had gone back on meat.
To her face I was polite, but I literally spent days obsessing on it after she told me that.
EVERYONE ELSE IS YOUR DEVIL
As a variety of the comments below will illustrate, some vegans are not into it just for the health benefits. It becomes a passion that runs much deeper than that.
Everyone else who is not part of your insider group is now a Vicious Animal Killer.
The 'outsiders' are deluding themselves, spiritually bankrupt and need to immediately change their ways if they want to have any chance at soul evolution.
Only those who are totally "cruelty-free", within the very groups you frequent, have any chance at redemption.
Your group is now the elect, the special, the different, the 'chosen'.
Each of you have been self-appointed by your personal ambition and ability to actually go off of animal products.
You have been strong enough to awaken from the 'Matrix' (though this film wasn't out back then) and become one of the Good People.
Everyone else is an outsider, engaged in a mass hallucination. They are walking zombies whose lives are being run by killing animals rather than by the heart.
They do not have a Spiritual Path -- which by definition means they stopped eating animals first, before ever even having any idea about spirituality.
If they are not already doing this diet, then they are in Denial.
Unless you are on this diet, you are another mindless robot within the worldwide Devil the group is wrestling against.
LOOK AT THE SCIENCE
What really awakened me from this mindset was the work of Dr. Cleve Backster, who I often cite at my conferences. You can order his book "Primary Perception" and read all the evidence for yourself.
Backster became famous in the 1960s and 70s after discovering that plants had remarkably human-like variations in their electrical activity, moment to moment.
This variation is called Galvanic Skin Response, or GSR, and is used to administer lie-detector or 'polygraph' tests in humans.
Backster hooked up his polygraph to a plant and was dazzled to find how human-like it was responding.
The biggest shock of his life happened when he got the idea of lighting a match and burning one of the leaves of the plant.
Bear in mind he hadn't actually done it -- he just had decided to do it.
Right then, the plant had an enormous reaction, with the stylus fluctuating so extremely that it was actually hitting the stops that kept it from flying right off the paper.
Were this a human being, you would literally be seeing them screaming and crying, churning in their chair, drenched in sweat -- or at the very least hyperventilating and sweating, with their hearts pounding and a feeling of being light-headed and highly agitated.
He then actually did burn the leaf, and the 'screaming' continued. It did not stop until he actually removed the matches from the room and left the plant alone.
EVERYTHING DOES THIS
As you can read in the Primary Perception book, from primaryperception.com, every living thing is part of this 'family', and they all look out for each other.
Backster hooked up one egg to his polygraph and then boiled other eggs. The electroded egg invariably 'screamed' as each of the others were dropped into the water.
Plants even 'scream' when bacteria die, such as in yogurt -- and if you want to be healthy, everyone knows you have to take 'probiotics,' which actively are killing millions of microbes in your own body in the process.
Bacteria scream at the loss of other bacteria. They scream when plants are burned. They even screamed when Backster planned to crack an egg -- but he hadn't actually done it yet.
In one case, an African violet screamed when Backster picked up Sammy, his sleeping Siamese cat, and startled him.
In another case, plants always screamed when a particular man came into the lab. It turned out he had a job as a lawnmower -- so to the plants he was a Mass Murderer.
These are things that strongly affected how I think.
EACH PERSON IS DIFFERENT
If I could get by on a meatless diet, I would. In many people's eyes this is the optimum spiritual path you can take through diet.
Again, in my case it was very simple -- I was so weak without it that I seemed to be in real danger. Even one piece of fish would buy me about four days of energy and vitality.
Some people's systems react in other ways -- and do not digest meat easily, if at all. Furthermore, once you've been on a vegan diet for a long time, you have much less intestinal probiotics in your system, and therefore are not equipped to digest other types of food -- you will actually feel sick from it unless you take HCL and / or enzyme supplements.
There are great comments below where different people present their opinions on this obviously charged issue.
Again -- if you can be healthy as a vegan, that's probably the best spiritual path you can take. I would definitely do it if my body could tolerate it, as I could probably accelerate my spiritual abilities even more.
I had to choose a lifestyle that allowed me to have the health and vitality to do my work for the planet. That was the initial hurdle I crossed.
Then when I found out about Backster's discoveries, I realized that life and death are part of a symbiosis, and without death there could be no life.
I therefore "vote with my wallet" for the more ethical approach -- doing my own part to help change the way things are done here on Earth.
KEEP COMING BACK
There is lots more to come in the future, so keep coming back!
As my schedule clears I do want to cover the many interesting things that are going on right now -- and I hope to be able to do that in the coming weeks.
Right for now, may you indeed have the best day ever!
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David, you truly are the answer to so many peoples questions, especially mine.
I have referred so many people to watch your videos, even people who are in disbelief about ET's. I have re-watched your videos over and over again in order to watch with friends and family ( just so they watch the whole thing) and even they cannot deny the overwhelming evidence about our consciouness and existence.
You are one of the many heros, like Steven Greer I truly think are the people that can help start the human race on a positive note once again.
I am not saying there are not others but thanks to all the others who stood up against the tyranny and join us together on a positive path to coexist. Bless you and thank you, you bring me such joy all I want to do is spread the news.
Kara
I have noticed that some of you go pretty deep as to say that eating a totally vegan diet can actually make your bones less dense to a point of some kind of energy body activation.
I am not too experienced in these topics but am very interested as I did experience for about a week the psychic ability of hearing ppls thoughts without me even looking for it, and I actually confirmed it many times.
I heard it as a whisper straight to my head. Since then I’ve been pretty interested in all this type of things. The problem is that I haven’t been able to pinpoint what the cause of it was because many things happened to me during that time which makes it hard for me to know what actually caused it.
The day before it happened for the first time was the first day I tried a meditation technique from a site called azurite press from a lady named ashayane Daine or somethings.
But also I had begun in a dietary change in those days to stop eating anything that wasn’t 100% natural. Another thing was that I usually was high on pot when it happened to me (but that doesn’t take the veracity of it because there where many witnesses to the abilities.)
What is your opinion on what could have been the cause of this? Because It only happened for a week and haven’t been able to do it again ever since.
And I have one more question for David I have seen the 2012 enigma series and I remember you saying something about besides fluoride also some eye drops caused the calcification of the pineal gland.
Can you please tell me what kind of eye drops would that be? I am currently taking tobradex which is a steroid, do you know if that one is ok?
And finally, do you know if a calcified gland can be restored?
Thank you very much.
[Moderator: There is evidence that suggests that a calcified pineal gland can be de-calcified, based on the work of Dr. Weston Price, using vitamin K aka "x factor" (www.greenpasture.org) some essential oils http://www.the12keys.com/files...mistry.pdf and I would suspect through pranayama (breathing exercises) and drinking clean water... stopping the fluoridation/calcification]
first please excuse my english, i am not i english speacker
about plants: you said that plant reacts ... well i just saw "MYTH BUSTERS" show on DISCOVERY PLANET and the guys put a polygraph (they weer coping the experiments of thr guy you said)on a plant and even if they tried for several times to get a reaction from the plant, well tha plant didin't react
so what to think? that they fake the reasults? that they waren't "spiritual" ?
appreciate an answer
thank you
[Moderator: David said "The plant experiments are all tied in to emotional energy. If you don't have a strongly negative, visceral feeling move through you, the plants won't have that reaction.
Backster's experiment was remarkable because the plant started 'screaming' BEFORE he actually burned it -- merely the THOUGHT of him burning it was enough.
These are living things and getting effects is not automatic -- but that's where we bring in the research of guys like Dr. William Braud.]
I disagree with David Wolfe on chocolate, not because I prefer someone else's food philosophy or research but because my body tells me that chocolate is NOT food.
It's unfortunate that we modern day humans are so disconnected with our own body that we need nutritionists to tell us what to eat what not to eat.
Personally I had to go under a one-week water fast to be able to hear my body again. I used to love chocolate, in fact I still do. Shortly after ending my fast the thought of chocolate was absolutely revolting. The body's natural intelligence simply told me that chocolate is not food and stay away!
If we could all learn to listen to our bodies NOT cravings we would be naturally healthy and nutritionists would be out of business.
[Moderator: Each individual is unique. Chocolate may not be appropriate for some and still appropriate for others. I have water fasted and still found myself attracted to this naturally growing seed. It is a blessing though that you have the intelligence to do what is right for you instead of what someone else tells you.]
My addiction is smoking cigarettes, I have left other addictions for the most part , but still sometimes have the odd fast food, but very very odd.
I consider myself a very spiritual and progressive person seeking the truth on a daily basis and promoting light and love continually.
Basically what I "think" "feel" "intuit" is that anything in moderation will not hamper the greater good.
Basically following your heart and living up to your best and what you think is your best is the right path. Just be happy!
and loving AMAP(as much as possible). 
I believe I am a wanderer/Indigo etc.., I guess most of us are on this website.
It may be that some raw dieters get tooth decay because they have not fine-tuned their diet. They may increase the amount of fruit without balancing it, or may not feel the need to brush as often because their mouth and teeth feel cleaner.
Today's fruits are higher in sugars than their wild counterparts. Since I have been following the raw food movement, I do not get the idea that bad teeth are an inevitable result. Like any other eating system, balance is the key.
For myself, I have not switched to raw as of yet, but I like the simplicity and non-violence of it. I think it would be a higher vibrational way of eating if once can achieve it.
It is very good to see the synthesis of knowledge from you David and David Wolfe. I have been enlightened by both of the communities you represent to me and have wondered how they could and would intersect because I knew they had inside my psyche. This is a good step.
I agree that any new knowledge or personal growth step should not become something we judge others by, as in veganism or belief in the existence of extra-terrestrial life. We can all be taught by each other, but we have to ultimately be led by our inner source of knowledge.
Others can help us get in touch with that and help open doors, but we have to process it all for ourselves and follow that tug on our hearts and minds for ourselves. And we need to respect that process in others.
Thanks for the video. It helped me get the perspective I was needing today.
Hi guys
Everybody interested in Rainbow Bodies should read the book 'The Crystal and the Way of Light - Sutra, Tantra and Dzogchen' by Chögyal Namkhai Norbu.
I'm sorry some of the information provided by David Wilcock on Coast to Coast might have been misleading...
Furthermore, I can recommend the book 'Rainbow Painting' by Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche. It's contains an image by him with a mind-to-mind energy encoding on it.
In addition all the books by Sarah Harding are amazing.
In addition I would like to thank David Wilcock for recommending the Ra - Law of on Material. It really help understanding myself A'shayane Deane's material better.
Take care
btw: Swiss Psychiatrists have no understanding of Tibetan Buddhists and prescribe Zyprexa because they are to slow or I talk too fast 
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The 'Vajra wave' in the book 'Yantra Yoga' by Namkhai Norbu helps to reduce the ill-effects of Zyprexa and it won't burn the brain as badly as it should
For the past several years I've experienced increased synchronicity. All 3 of these people have greatly influenced my life at different periods.
First was Graham Hancock. I heard him talking on Coast to Coast years ago about his book Supernatural. Upon finding out about Ayahuasca and it's healing powers, I immediately sought it out. I had planned a trip to Peru, but before I did that, decided to search for it locally. Luckily, I found a place here that offers it and that began a very positive journey.
During the Ayahuasca ceremony, I asked to be guided for health and happiness. Shortly after that, I came upon David Wolfe's work and decided to give it a try.
WOW! By following David Wolfe's advice, I transformed everything! I felt better than I could ever remember! I *LITERALLY* woke up just happy to be alive, and I had *never* experienced anything that profound before!
About a year after that I heard David Wilcock on Coast to Coast and began to read his online books and research his material - and to now see all three of these people from separate fields coming together and collaborating is a very amazing synchronicity in my own life and leads me to believe I am on the proper path.
Kudos to Graham Hancock, David Wolfe and David Wilcock for bringing love, light, happiness and enlightenment to those who choose to listen and learn.
The whole issue of plants being conscious is a really interesting one. Maybe there really is no difference between chopping a head of lettuce and chopping the head of a live animal. This is a very good read on the subject:
http://www.abolitionistapproac...ts/#more-7
What I've learned is that it doesn't matter what you eat. What matters is that you thank your food for feeding you. This goes for meat and for vegetables etc.
All food can be power food if you are really gratefull. Thank you vegetable/meat out loud for growing. Thank it for the fact that it is there to feed you.
The whole universe is in a predatory state, so thanking whatever you eat is a gesture to infinity!
Great interview with Wolfe and Good. I can improve my diet even more now. You mentioned the 'factor x', but since you did that original interview I have found no source for the variety based on fish (rather than butter/plants).
Any info on where to obtain that would be helpful. Thanks for bringing this dietary info to us in a way that is integrated to the spirit.
[Moderator: At David's conferences we usually vend skate liver oil liquid and capsules from greenpasture.org.]
Faerie: "It really makes me laugh that some vegans or veggies believe that if someone failed to feel healthy on that diet its because they didn't "do it" properly..."
So, sun yogi "suffered" from the same as those vegans or veggies you refer to? Wow! Times, they are a changing!!
Check out this fantastic article from a medical doctor, Dr. Mercola, about the viability of veganism vs. truly healthy animal products that may be a "missing link" for certain individuals...
and the negative effects of over consumption of fruit and sugar.
http://articles.mercola.com/si...d-her.aspx
It really makes me laugh that some vegans or veggies believe that if someone failed to feel healthy on that diet its because they didn't "do it" properly.
Hahaha.
So egotistical to think that. You assume too much.
And the people mentioning sun gazing as if that's the answer to everything, try sun gazing when you live in london.
Be realistic here guys , everyone is different , if you want to live on sun light go for it , but I know sun yogi ji and he just began eating again because he believed not eating became an ego trap and distracted people from understanding his true message which was union with the higher self.
David, you speak your truth bravely. Thank you.
I've had a similar struggle to find the best diet for my health and stamina, choosing vegetarianism on and off for the past 20 years. Have struggled with "addiction" mindset, too.
I have felt the pointed piety of veganism, even as I sought to improve my own health and adopt a animal free diet, guided there intuitively.
Two years ago, in a fresh attempt to "get back on track" with my diet, I got a subscription to a popular vegetarian magazine, which I was excited to receive.
The design was top notch, the paper choice silky, but within I read article after article bashing "burger-eaters" and amplifying messages of cruelty and human failure. The entire magazine, including ads, played hard on the emotions of readers.
I have friends in the animal rights movement, and have seen how some animal rights advocates espouse hate towards humans. And I've felt it.
Yet I find this perplexing: If one wants to really affect a change, then wouldn't it be more effective to encourage meat-eaters to adopt more plant-based meals rather chiding them for their "offenses" eating meat or dairy?
I was so disheartened it moved me into deep contemplation, for I do care about this planet and its lifeforms. I stopped reading that magazine, which shamed me for eating meat.
I've known about the living foods diet for several years, and have been dabbling in its delicious recipes, drawn by its more peaceful and human-health affirming advocates like Jinjee and Storm Talifero.
(I was pleased to see you collaborating with David Wolfe.) When we humans shine brightly in love and light, our bodies maintain wellness and accomplish health miracles.
We all agreed to co-create on this planet together, animals and plants too, and this is our expansive journey. I am sending love to the haters, saviors and blamers. I pray for love to soften my judgment of them (and of my own shadow).
A Course in Miracles says that attack it is really a call for love. Do we choose to fight the attack or meet it with love, peace and compassion? I strive for the latter everyday, but even in my response to this article, I am aware that I have an ego ("attack") drive to share my point of view.
As I reread my words, I feel my "victim" crying on your shoulders. Yet I am strong. There are no victims in this life, only volunteers in a grand human experiment.
We are all evolving together, doing the best we can in each moment. We ARE evolving TOGETHER as One!
Keep on keeping on, David.
O definitely bet for the sular healing/sungazing type of lifestyle. When I was a kid, my mother would mention about a guy in Badajoz, Spain, who was known because he didn't eat; although he was in good health.
I was once told by a friend: "Tomas, what is this, do you do photosynthesis or what!!??"
Getting there. Cheers.
Purify, therefore, the temple, that the Lord of the temple may dwell therein and occupy a place that is worthy of him.
"And from all temptations of your body and your spirit, coming from Satan, withdraw beneath the shadow of God's heaven.
"Renew yourselves and fast. For I tell you truly, that Satan and his plagues may only be cast out by -fasting and by prayer.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm
Hi David,
Peace be with you. I love reading your articles and all those wonderful videos you put in the YouTube. A big gratitude to you for the finest highest consciousness service you had done by researching and revealing the truth really made me understand ourselves and the world around outside and inside of us.
I was thinking of why you werent feeling good and strong while being in the vegetarian or vegan diet. Read this from Essene Gospel of Peace.
Hope this helps you see the truth much more clear like glass. Read some cool books from
EDMOND BORDEAUX SZEKELY, who translate those ancient writtings.
Peace, Love & Light,
Ron R.
[Moderator: We removed excerpt because it was too long. Please provide a link if you like. Thank you!]
Reuter's ariticle:
U.S. Nuclear Weapons Have Been Compromised by Unidentified Aerial Objects
http://www.reuters.com/article...RN20100915
I know the main theme of this thread is about diet and how it affects us energetically, yet I felt compelled to introduce as a possibility the Miracle Mineral Supplement MMS.
For those who are not familiar with MMS, Jim Humble used it as a water purifier in the Amazon jungle till his crew , hundreds of miles from anywhere, contracted Malaria and they were so desperate for anything that they tried it, and the malaria was gone the next day. The rest of the story is history.
Hundreds of thousands of case studies now support the benefits of MMS, although the FDA is trying to shut it down, it acts as a non evasive detox protocol, it goes directly into the cells because it is angstrom size and it destroys all pathogens, viruses, bacteria and microbes that are harmful to the body.
Do your own due diligence. I am not selling anything and I receive no compensation for this information. I just feel with the degree to which our food supply is compromised, as well as our air and water, with the threat of hybrid engineered pathogens an imminent possibility, that it was important for me to share what I know.
I know this sounds crazy. I dont even want to believe it. When I was 3 I had a vision of 3 saucers returning to see me. I explained the whole story to my mom. I told her 3 names. I do not remember the names. One of the 3 was a doctor. I still remember the day. Later on in the years something drawn me to study atlantis.
That is when I came across edgar cayce. I knew edgar cayce. Almost as if my knowledge of him was a permanent object in time. Is has been and always will be connected to edgar somehow. I know this doesnt make sense. Now fate has had it my studies have led me to David.
Book on Healing Tooth Decay and Activator X
A couple of months ago I watched the Peterson video of Project Camelot, and did my own research on nutrition.
I tried to find information on Activator X, and what kind of diet would be required to foster health and reduce tooth decay or eliminate it completely.
I found that Activator X has been identified as vitamin K2, specifically the MK-4 isoform (menatetrenone). See http://wholehealthsource.blogs...tor-x.html
"Cure Tooth Decay" is the title of a book which gives a pretty good summary on the role of Activator X and the supposedly best nutrition. The author, his name is Ramiel Nagel, also pointed out an alternative cooking advice book, its title being "Nourishing Traditions."
Nagel and the Weston Price Foundation have always had the impression it won't work without animal meat. The core formula of their nutrition is "Phosphorus + Raw Dairy + Organs of land or sea animals MINUS Processed Food = Healthy Teeth."
In their opinion, you need 1.5 grams calcium, 2 grams phosphorus, 10,000 - 20,000 IU of vitamin A, 1,000 - 2,000 of Vitamin D and 40-60 % of Calories from fat. At best regularly and each day.
It is important, however, that artificial supplements of Activator X or other isolated supplements like raw Calcium or Vitamin D won't help. You have to get it in natural form, like, this is only an example, the Green Pasture stuff.
Among the best food is dairy from grass fed animals, meat from grass fed animals and wild animal and fish meat.
In my opinion the above formula is proven enough to be taken seriously. There has been done a lot of research, as Mr. Peterson stated in the interview.
Nagel and other dentists, however, said and experienced tooth decay would not be able to be stopped easily in case of vegetarians and not at all in case of vegans.
They claim you could supplement some stuff to a certain degree, but would not be able to get the full load of nutrients.
Today on Reuter's frontpage's Most popular articles:
U.S. Nuclear Weapons Have Been Compromised by Unidentified Aerial Objects
http://www.reuters.com/article...RN20100915
Hey David, everything you say makes perfect sense.
I once met a native american BaHai and he told me the most important thing, above all else, is unity.
To try and enforce your "ways" on to another human actually lowers their immune system , whether it be religious views , dietary views or political views. The truly enlightened judges none and takes care of their own reality without infringing on another's free will and rights.
Be a vegan , be a veggie , be a meat eater. Do what is right for you and respect others. Pushing your way on to another is EGO EGO EGO , ego is great at tricking us in to thinking we are doing it for "the right reasons". LOL
Today the Renegade Health Show posted its last interview with Dr. Joel Fuhrman wherein he explained how sometimes only minor tweaking is needed in order to enable anyone to thrive on a vegan diet.
He suggested blood testing and said that it is comparatively rare for anyone to be unable to succeed with a vegan diet once individual biochemical needs are met. Some people need much more taurine than others, etc.
This makes one wonder if Cayce's Source would have recommended a vegan diet if the general public at that time would have been willing to give it a try.
We know that St. Francis didn't preach veganism despite his great love of animals; it would have been unthinkable in his historical context, especially considering the way the Apostle Paul scoffed at Jewish dietary restrictions as elitest, in essence.
Another inspiring stunner of a post. Infinite love, light, & gratitude to you David for writing this up, and to you, David Wolfe and Nick Good for doing the interview and making such invaluable information available for free.
I appreciate your efforts always and forever. - JRH
The China Study by T. Colin Campbell is a great one for pro-plant based diet.
Basically, you can avoid many of the Western diseases by keeping your animal proteins/fats down to less than 10% of your food intake. Over 10%, and the rates of disease start to skyrocket. He's got great research.
Blessings, thank you very much for the information regarding sun gazing and HRM. Have had a look and am very interested in learning more.
Food is only one source of our energy. There is also the prana we get from correct breathing and sunlight, although we have been brainwashed to fear the sun and we don't know how to access its energy.
It seems that the optimal regime would be a vegan diet which is high in raw foods and superfoods plus good energy consumption via air and sun.
Not discounting the possibility of being able to live on air and sun alone, where food can be indulged in for pleasure and social interaction, but is not physiologically necessary.
It would be better to investigate sun-gazing and pranayama to augment one's energy if one is convinced, contrary to scientific evidence, that one can't thrive on a vegan diet, rather than revert to meat-eating, with all its moral, health, ecological and social justice problems.
Anyone watching "The Event" tomorrow night on NBC? Looks like more disclosure preparation for the masses. Looks very blatant. I've heard in some circles also a predicting of mass sightings coming up in Oct or Nov 2010. With the Vaticans latest comments things seem to be ramping up for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...re=related
The above URL is the video that will unify all of the views expressed hear in one harmonic of unconditional love! I promise from the bottom of my heart... watch all7 in the series.
It has to do with Alkalinity... but it is not your average alkaline diet. This has tapped him into the Akashic Records... he never had to say it... I can say it by the resonance of his message.
I must say... Hemp/THC oil (I am NOT advocating smoking, NOR am I condemning it
I wanted to bee your friend on facebook but, your moderator said your friends is full, is there another medium so we can converse?
Love,
Anantha :^)
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Dear David,
Thank you again, and again, for your love, your light.
Especially the link on the 22 archetypes is mine, todays favourite, beautifull cards.
Didn't know these 7 on the body are in the centre. Like we really have to take care of what to eat, listen to your hart, love Wanja
How about all of us feuding about plant versus animal ... "stepping up to the plate" and feeding off the sun or air?
All vegetarians ... you can do much better than be a vegetarian and kill live plants.
Thousands of people are living off the sun and the air. Really, it's very real.
Have you seen the research done on HRM Method on Sun Gazing by Hira Ratan Manek (goes by HRM)?
HRM spent years voluntarily confined to a research hospital were he was watched and studied by doctors to prove he actually was living off sun and water. He did this 4 times.
It's an incredible story.
Here is some info:
Here is HRMs main website at http://solarhealing.com/
A free 107-page book about sungazing at http://www.scribd.com/doc/3782...n-Sunlight
And feature about it on Unexplained Mysteries at http://www.unexplained-mysteri...opic=30430
Sandi and Alex ... I agree with you. Live by example, let others experience their experiences sending love and light and awaken to the high horse one is preaching from
My focus is to move to the point like HRM where food is not needed.
In the meantime, for the "be kind" vegetarians here ... be kind and realize that your hate and judgment towards people different from you, who you judge as being "less than you" for eating animals you claim they judge being "less than them."
As Eckart Tolle says, "see the insanity of the human mind."
And Neil ... To paraphrase your comment and mirror it back to you ... You come off as sort of pompous and silly with your straight edge attitude. I can actually hear your tighty whities tighten as you project yourself onto David (and that was fun to say ... I can see why you enjoy your projections).
Megan on September 16, thank you.
And BillyBob, always great to hear from you. Your posts are fun. See you in David's Forum.
Carrie on September 16, a being could say that your credibility is damaged because you kill plants to eat.
Really, your "Dalai lost credibitiy" is like saying that one is a sinner because she ate meat on Friday, it's a religious dogma you are preaching.
So the leader of the dogma experienced his own karma of preaching the dogma ... sounds like spiritual growth for him and his followers.
If YOU are righteously ABOVE dogma and REALLY into ethics, how about YOU stop killing ANYTHING and become a sungazer ... and evolve from your lower level of plant eating to a higher level of pineal gland activation to nourish yourself (if one is to play your judging game).
Com' on, like everyone evolved is doing it, what's wrong with you? (To speak in your language)
I have to say this is really fun to see all the projections of inner beliefs and limits played out here in the comments section.
Shows how far the righteous have to go ... to get where they claim to be already
Even the attacks are fun watching people preach the "be good like me" and "stop being lesser" as they are using the lower level vibrations of attack instead of higher level vibrations of love, acceptance and gratitude.
I know ... it's hard ... yes it is. I love the temptation of a good argument too (look at me here engaging).
So thanks for being the mirrors for me so I can see how ridiculous I look when I do it too.
I appreciate it and it helps me become aware in the moment so I can make the choice that is in the highest good for all ... or not
It's really fun to choose ... AND then have the spiritual responsibility and enlightened awareness of the choice and not hide behind righteousness and attack of others, claiming you're not, which is what the process of taking on the archetype and looking like "The Fool" looks like
I'm allergic to milk and all vegetable proteins and can only get proteins from meat and eggs, I suppose that makes me evil then right veggies and vegans? Or maybe God is evil for making me and the universe this way? Or Ghandi is wonderful because he didn't hurt the poor baby cows? What a crock of cow manure.
It's amazing how people are so blinded by their own opinions. Are you really on the spiritual path? Or are you on your high horse? Eat what ever you like and don't become the nazi food patrol police.
And yes, I could kill a fish, a chicken or a rabbit, skin it, cook it, serve it up with parsnips. use its skin to make my shoes. I suppose I'll never go to heaven then. boo hoo
All I can say is that if our evolution is pinning its hopes on the entire planet giving up smoking, meat, drinking and ego , I cannot see it happening.
Most people I know never even consider making changes in their lives, I'm not sure how 2012 will work itself out. I cannot see anyone around me doing any work. So , I presume , it makes no difference.
What a great interview in Kauai! Watched it twice. I would like your take on this idea of decalcifying the body in order to slow/reverse degenerative aging processes.
It makes sense in regards to arthritis, stenosis, plaque, etc. but esp. with the pineal gland. Could you speak to this in more detail at some point?
Very interesting topic. Thanks again for all you do and are doing. It's getting pretty exciting out here! 
for me. Hi everyone---( which friendly greeting encompasses breatharians through ethical cannibals )
A note to Meg: Meg, I have no idea how to PM (private message) you for information on a bio-available plant source of B-12 ...I checked the forum and there is no less than 7 Megs!
If you would please go to the forum and PM one billybobbutterball it would be appreciated.
As for myself I augment by using methylcobalamin...which is probably derived from bacterial sources.
Some other oddities:
I understand that the 12 step program resulted from a reading requested of Edgar Cayce...which considering David's later experience with the 12 steppers has a certain irony of Karmic twisting. Seems that RA works in mysterious ways.
Another one. For those who assume that merely eliminating animal farming would save much more sentient life may not understand the BIG picture.
'Onething' touched on this in an earlier posting...
Anyone interested in the food question should investigate this book review:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/lipid-hypothesis/the-vegetarian-myth/
This represents the research done by one who was a dedicated, whole heart, vegetarian (Vegan?) for some twenty years. A must read.
It is virtually undeniable that the toll on flora and fauna accompanying the hijacking of land to accommodate a society based on agriculture -- as practiced -- amounts to the brutal rape of nature.
Yes. Our food supply comes tainted with brutality whether sourced in plant or animal.
About David's recommendation of Sushi. I recently watched an expose of fish farming. It concerned in particular the Mekong Delta...arguably the most contaminated river in the world...besides being one of the largest suppliers of fish to the USA.
The Delta is in actuality a huge sewer as thousands of primitive dwellings overreach the banks to better accommodate their sewage disposal needs. Not good, as some sages have pointed out that "One is not what one eats but rather what the 'food' had eaten.)
One last comment. The idea that things 'dieing being of utmost concern in our appreciation of reality seems misplaced to me in that it unduly exalts the TRANSITORY 3rd dimensional reality.
The third density is NOT one of understanding!
In fact is we are informed that one cannot move into the 4th without understanding that fact.
True, our stomachs may be the graveyard of entities eaten and their shadows follow us. BUT to disengage from that the clutch of Karma is to FORGIVE...and that means both others and OURSELVES!
Interestingly enough there was a reading from
LL Research about the question of hunting...seems there is a little understood payback in that the deer "victim" in its encounter with a higher density hunter received the gift of "individuation".
This means that the prey is lifted from being part of the deer group soul and is sent on its way along the path to the one creator...Some millions of our years in the future the hunter may be named Ra who mentors the ascending Bambi's mother.
Thanks for reading...of course what doesn't resonate, dump.
billybobbutterball
Great David, wonderful to see you guys in your 3 different energies and masculinity, enjoyed that!
I agree tremendously and passionately on the value of good food and vital food. No strict rules, but quality in how it's cultivated/grown, harvested and how it's prepared and enjoyed as meals.
In my experience love for oneself by eating good nurturing food is a tremendous boost to the immune system.
Consciously eating and being grateful for farmer, cook, food and a decorated table, makes all the difference.
I am a healthfoodconsultant and my mission is to awaken those qualities in people. A basic joy of food and eating. The Slow Food organisation that started in Italy is a great foundation of that too.
The man that took this initiative is Carlo Petrini and he wrote a book titled Slow Food Nation. The website is (in the US)
www.slowfoodusa.org
I am very happy with this subject, David!
My heart is with you!
We choose what we eat depending on our spiritual level (fear level). My clients who released their fear and reached "I AM" state (*Zero state), which they feel themselves as "Love", stop eating meat very naturally without being taught.
Their body and mind cannot accept the energy level of animal dead body. As far as people has "Fear", or are not "I AM (Zero)" state, still it is OK to eat meat.
*Zero state: There is no difference between good and bad, or between negative and positive in the state.
Just wondering how many people here, kill, skin, gut, and bleed out these animals that are claimed to be necessary for your life?
Im sure most meat posters will say 'of course i do it all myself, no problem, there's no difference between doing that and cutting up some lettuce". Really? Okay..
For those that pay someone else to do it, would you have the stomach for it -could you do it yourself? have you considered what's involved?
Have you ever watched whats involved to do it? Or do you, like the rest of the herd, pay someone else to do it for you because, well why just convenience right??? really? are you sure??
what if our society was set up that you had to do every step yourself? okay.. So i have a 5yr old neice that don't understand why people want to hurt animals or eat them.
anytime i put an animal in front of her (at home, or the zoo, etc) she wants to hug them or pet them not eat them, and although she is aware that some people like to eat animals as her granddad does, she has never associated an animal with food and is often confused and sad that people hurt them.
In my own family who were predominantly eating meat, not one member could do this when they caught fish to eat them. My dad had to and he would often feel quite sick doing it, and sometimes skipped dinner.
When i asked why he did it if he didn't like it, he explained that we had no choice. Yet we did, but he just didn't have that choice in his list of possiblilities.
Maybe its inherent in humans not to want to kill others but we get conditioned to believe that we must, because everyone else does, and then through corporate monetary influence we get diet guidelines made via government to tell people what to eat and that if they don't then they will be sick and weak (stereotypes)
and if a person dares to become veg and fails then they do not have to take any responsibilities for their food choices during that time so they can blame the diet and not take ownership in their choices
(so eating french fries and pop is vegan, yet they one could get quite tired,weak, sick and therefore conclude - it's the vegan diet! it doesn't work!)
isn't that kind of like meeting someone from a foreign country that you have never met before that may not look or speak like you and you have an unpleasant experience with them so therefore conclude -
"it's those people! im normal they're not, they are all bad, evil, etc!" That's a huge stereotype and it is evident here in David's opinion that included a negative judgement based on his own experience out of all the humans in the world and evident in some of the meat posters.
It is easy to find reasons to blame your environment and others for things that didn't work out for you when you have a closed mind. But the first time i tried to learn how to skate, i fell, i failed but certainly didn't blame the ice or, the skates or my instructor, but i kept an open mind and learned how to do it so that it became easy and enjoyable.
Just some things to ponder. Thanks for listening!
Hi David,
Thanks for the great video. What I constantly get out of your messages is that you've meditated and gone directly to God for your answers, and you've gotten the direction and guidance you require to make a decision about how you want to live your life.
I feel you encouraging us all to go direct to God to get our answers and I feel that is a great message. Thanks!
Tino
It is significant that Eastern teachers, such as the Chan (Zen) master mentioned below, are virtually unanimous on the need for a vegetarian diet.
Many of them do say that the karma of eating meat is to be reborn as an animal who will be raised and killed for food. It is self-evident that we are all free to make our own choices, but not all choices are equal in terms of the suffering they cause or the karma they incur.
Since these wisdom traditions in Hinduism, Buddhism and Taoism have endured and have tried and true methods for liberation, I think it is wise to heed their teachings on the importance of avoiding killing and avoiding the food that comes from killing.
In the Surangama Sutra the Buddha praises those who avoid all animal products for both food and clothing. He says that these people will become liberated.
Regarding the Dalai Lama returning to a non-veg diet, this has damaged his reputation and credibility enormously.
Please read Open Letter to the Dalai Lama by Norm Phelps for one letter which expressed the disappointment many people feel in the Dalai Lama http://www.all-creatures.org/l...15-np.html
Hey David,
As always, thanks for all you do. On the subject of diet I think you missed the most important quote from the Law of One (which appears directly before the "to the extent necessary, the animal products" quote you used).
Questioner: In dietary matters, what would be the foods that one would include and what would be the foods that one would exclude in a general way for the most, or the greatest care of one’s bodily complex?
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we underline and emphasize that this information is not to be understood literally but as a link or psychological nudge for the body and the mind and spirit. Thus it is the care and respect for the self that is the true thing of importance.
I hope the people who read what you wrote also read this. Dave, you saying "that having some degree of animal products in your diet is absolutely essential to optimum health" is just as dangerous as any statement that doesn't allow for each person to make their choice about the best way to care for themselves.
Be easy man, it feels like you are trying to defend yourself for some reason but at the same time ostracizing others in that defense.
As far as I am concerned you could smoke meth and eat sausages out of dumpsters and I would still read and listen to your work. I love you David. And I am so happy that you are free.
peace
David – great article as usual.
Just a quick note is that I always found (Mahatma) Gandhi to be very wise and a very spiritual man in the true sense of the word. He was a vegetarian practically all his life (and for a large time a fruitarian – which I guess is the same as a raw foodie).
After reading his autobiography he had the following snippets of information I’d like to share which does emphasis your point with respect to adding animal products to your diet:
-He found by far the most nutritious food to be milk, of course in his day it was raw, pure milk. (Its my understanding these days that it is very hard to come by the real stuff – it is normally full of chemicals, animal waste, pasteurization also kills good bacteria as well as bad etc. In fact in the UK and other countries children in primary schools are given free milk (with lots of chemicals by the government – you think they have their best interests at heart? The chemicals are added to dumb down the brain).
In contrast:
-He did try meat (beef) once in his life when he was a teenager – as he was persuaded by a friend (they noticed that people eating meat were much bigger/bulkier and generally taller) and were very curious. He said he regretted it for the rest of his life.
-He believed that a man becomes what he eats, and that spiritual progress demands that we cease to kill our fellow creatures to satisfy our bodily wants.
By controlling our thoughts / brain we can really control our cravings. Fasting played a great role in his life, and it is one of the best healthy / detoxing things you can do for your body.
Seems many are very passionate about which type of living being others feed on for their sustinace.
I think its important to remember to respect other peoples FREE-WILL to eat what they choose.
You have control over your own eating habbits, but practice some ACCEPTANCE of others choices. Trying to have control over others choices is a negative trait. You need convince only the self, by all means shed light on ignorence, but there is a fine line that one should be carefull not to cross.
In truth, there is no right or wrong. All is perfect, the apparent imperfections and bias are in the percievers limited mind.
I think David is right on with his position vis-a-vis meat. It is ironic that some request empirical proof of plants being sentient or having emotional reactions when frequenting a site operated by an intuitive person.
Intuition, the yin to the empirical yang. If everyone here required verification of everything that David states, then there is no point in visiting.
Harvesting live plants is no more ethical than reverently hunting a deer or slaughtering a pig (neither of which I have personally done).
Were the indigenous peoples with their great wisdom and prophecy immoral for the buffalo hunt which resulted in a buffalo dying slowly from numerous cuts? No, reverent and responsible consumption of meat is completely compatible with high spiritual development.
I would question the motives of those who take such an accusatory tone with respect to the issue.
Hi David,
Great work as usual.
Just a quick comment is that (Mahatma) Gandhi was a very famous vegetarian he was also a fruitarian for awhile - in his time it is the same as being a raw foodie.
He ate meat (beef) only once in his life, as a teenager he was persuaded by a friend to take it - because they were interested to find that people that ate meat did get bigger / bulkier and taller, which they wanted to be. Gandhi regretted it all his life.
He often did 'fasts' - which is one of the best things you can do for keeping your body healthy - which shows you that by substaining from food your body heals itself.
He taught people that eating was all about training your mind.
Another interesting part which relates to what you are saying about animal products in your diet is that in Gandhi's experience he found nothing more nutricious than milk (i guess in his day this was pure raw milk).
What I got from David's post basically is that we really shouldn't judge each other.
Also I seem to remember reading a story once about someone who through meditation connected with the grass they were walking on.
The grass was in joy and bliss because the person was feeling the love of the person walking on it. It wasn't in pain from being crushed.
Why we assume that all plants and animals (and yes I agree that many animals do) have the same reactions and feelings that we as humans do to the same stimuli I don't know.
A spike in a graph perhaps could just as easilly be profound joy as it could be fear.
I remember reading the book adrift where the author is adrift for 76 days or so in a lifeboat. One of the most profound parts of the book is near the end of his time being adrift and he is close to death.
Some flying fish basically jumped onto his boat of their own free will to provide him with food and that saved his life.
David - great post as always
Alex - Also, a great post. As you mentioned, we shouldn't assume that the vegan path is the right path. Who knows what the right way to eat is. Yes, animal cruelty is a bad thing and should be stopped. However, I know I will never be able to go on a vegan diet.
Like David mentioned, my body just couldn't handle that. Also, my local supermarkets don't carry all the foods that are mentioned in the latest video. I have to eat what's available to me, like most people in this world. I also have to eat what’s affordable.
I’d like to point at that humans aren't the only carnivores on this planet. There are all sorts of mammals, reptiles, birds fish, and insects that eat meat. Meat eating is a way of life on this planet. The difference is that humans farm their own food and all the other species out there have to hunt for their meal.
I don’t see what the difference is between a human eating a chicken and a lion eating a Zebra. It’s the circle of life. If the Lion knew how to farm Zebras they would. Human’s aren’t even the only species that farm their food. Various species of ants do the same thing we do.
Besides the fact that I don’t see what is wrong with eating meat.. I will also say this… (and the vegans are really going to hate me for saying this but I don’t care)… I LOVE MEAT. I love to cook.. I love to eat.. and there’s nothing better to eat in mind than meat… steak, chicken, fish.. whatever.
I’ll eat anything that walks, runs swims or buries a hole in the ground. You can keep dessert.. I’ll have another hamburger instead of cake. Do you really think the sugar in that non dairy cake you’re eating is s better for your mind and soul than the meat I’m eating? I don’t think so.
So why do I bring the fact the I love meat Simple… these are the things that make me happy. I even used the work love in that sentence.
Hanging around the house on a Sunday afternoon cooking a pot sauce while watching the football game … that’s a great day for me. Getting together with family in the summer while bbq’ing in the back yard… another great time.
What am I suppose to do, give all that up? Go around telling everyone else they are wrong? Sit at the dinner table eating carrots while I watch everyone else eating their chicken parm dinner.. pretending like I don’t want it.
Why? For what? What’s the pay off? I’m already in touch with my spiritual side… I do not fear death.. and I have a very happy peaceful life. I have a great family, great girl friend, great friends and a great job. I am truly blessed. How is not eating meat going to make my life better?
It’s already pretty great. I think not eating meat would make me a very angry person… very negative.. like many of you who have commented so far.
So anyway… I believe our purpose on this planet it to live, learn and love. I say do what makes you happy…. and like David said, don’t judge others. If being a vegan makes you happy go for it. Being a meat eater is what works for me. I don’t go around yelling at vegan’s trying to get them back on the meat band wagon.
Negative comments and negative thoughts are just adding more negativity to an already negative world. Let’s focus on the good and not what we think wrong.
Many interesting points of view.
I watched a program recently about people that live in the arctic circle and have done for centuries. It's a place of no vegetation so people eat the only thing available. Animals and fish.
The meat issue is one that I have struggled with over the years. I have eaten very little since I was a teenager or have been vegetarian or vegan.
Whether I have done veganism right or wrong, I have finally come to the conclusion that occasional grass raised bison, some organic free range chicken and fish works best for me and is about the best I can do. I can't say I like it at all, but I feel better physically when I do.
Would I agree that others can herd humans in some way so that we can be harvested for food or vibrational output? Probably not -- and perhaps it's hypocritical.
Yes, plants and animals are as sentient as we are. However, all sentient animals kill and eat other sentient animals and plants. And we will all keep killing eating something...until a vibrational shift or other things change occur on the planet and we no longer do.
Perhaps it's a decision we all have to make (and perhaps pay for) ourselves.
listening to the speech of David with the other two fellows, I want to ask one question, David points out that the Galaxy is spreding an energy that comes from the center of the Galaxy, but, isn`t true that the solar sistem is crossing the galactic ecuator?,
is it possible that the black hole has a tinny dimmension that acts as a disck (wherever you spell that, I`m not a expert on nothing) that could represent the acredition disck of a black hole?. If this is the case, and we are wittnesing the coming of a turning in to a singularity and/ wave-David-Galaxy turn?
Hi dear David,
during several years I was on macrobiotic food only (which is vegan). I loved the food!!!
When I became pregnant with my son Jonathan I detested the taste and the smell of macrobiotic food entirely. I was completely lost, didn't know what to eat otherwise as I couldn't quite remember what the alternatives were.
I had to go to the grocer's and check the food on display to find out what I might find tasty. To top my confusion I even developed a mild craving for "fast food".
That was eleven years ago. Now I eat whatever appeals to me. It is the attitude towards the food, the gratitude, the appreciation for the plants and animals that give their life to me that makes the difference.
Lots of love from Katie, Cologne
Have you really never researched how medicinal vaporising cannabis oil is? I personally think it raises your vibration. It has anti-carcinogenic effects and an incredible pain reliever.
You come off as sort of pompous and silly with your straight edge attitude. I can almost hear your tighty whities tighten.
[Moderator: I would take the advice of Don Miguel with your total assumption of what kind of underpants Mr. Wilcock wears : ) ]
Thank you for the update David - and for all the fantastic work you do to enlighten the world - including your film, your book, conferences, videos etc etc!
Your wisdom has helped me so much to accept myself and others 'as they are'. I no longer 'preach' to anyone as I respect their path and their choices - their soul's sovereignty - as I expect them to do for me. I don't let my ego go out there judging others...
"Love thy neighbour as thyself - and do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
So happy to know you will be visiting us here in Australia in March! Be assured of a warm welcome...
With love,
Kathy
This video was fresh David. I really appreciate it.
I do believe the more sensitive and grateful we are to everything, such as the food we eat and the sacrifice from which they came, the more we will grow spiritually and ascend higher states of existence.
Im conscious of these ideas and strive to live in this state of being. I am also very excited about the amazing truths and discoveries that are coming to light in my world.
It is nice to know people like you and many that visit this site are on this same frequency.
Much ♥ , LJ
Hmmm, this 'meat issue' usually provokes slightly depressing debate...
Brings to my mind a couple of things;
Firstly, the story of Dr.Temple Grandin, whom anyone who hasn't heard of, and is interested in this debate should read up about.
Secondly, In Tudor England (at one time, in Canturbury at least) a decree was actually made prohibiting beef from being sold unless the animals (that would be bulls in this case) were first subjected to a public 'baiting'.
'Enlightened' stuff indeed!
I can't help but wonder how many of the 'common folk' of the day would have objected to this either privately or publicly and imagine an hypothetical debate around the issue at the time, which would presumably have hinged heavily upon whether or not these poor beasts even had 'souls' (never mind a nervous system!).
Perhaps it was even decided that they in fact 'needed' to maintain this practice for their own 'wellbeing' or civic order or some such (a little joke there for you folks).
And thirdly, this argument also makes me think of listening to a modern Jewish Rabbi defending the (historical?) practice of animal sacrifice with a retort (to his secular [assimilated?] 'dissenter') as to the prevalence of meat eating amongst the general populace today.
Oh, so if everyone is eating meat anyway, it makes it perfectly sensibly an unassailably defensible does it!?. And does that also mean that these Orthodox Hebrews would recommence animal sacrifice if they gained control of the 'Temple Mount'!?
I personally suspect that veganism/vegetarianism is the 'way of the future'.
I'm sure that it is absolutely possible for a human organism to exist healthily without ingesting any animal flesh whatsoever.
Obviously we shouldn't be begging Obama (or any other supreme PR agent) to outlaw the practice of meat-eating (any more than we should be tolerating his finger on any internet 'kill-switch'), yet my guess is that it is going to be somehow related/relative to our species' evolution.
Just a thought, no need to choke sir/madame!
On another topic (which doesn't seem to have generated the same amount of interest here) I'd like to say thanks (to both Davids) for the decalcification information.
I had never heard of 'The Calcium Bomb' and have been looking for knowledge along these lines since I learned that fluoride calcifies the pineal gland (SHIT! You are kidding me)!
*The last remaining fluoride free state in Australia recently had fluoride introduced (to the water supply) without any kind of democratic referendum at all (Edward Bernays and Co. would be proud)... the wonders of mass medication!
I'd tentatively suggest that the correction of the corruption of our 'mystic/visionary' (and possibly psychic) faculty is of utmost importance (at least as important as peoples 'right' or 'need' to eat meat) and might just lead to a revolution in the way that many individuals live and think about and debate such issues.
And will anyone need or desire Hollywood fare (even, with respect, such as your own Mr Wilcock) when we have all developed the ability to dream 'lucidly' (every bit as vividly/clearly as waking life)!? I sincerely doubt it!
That much I certainly look forward to.
May the universe bless, heal and evolve us all!
ethical meat diet?
i dunno bro, i think it's wrong to eat flesh..it's just wrong...this world is twisted
people can do whatever they want, it's just disapointing to see what humans can and do on this world..
please my brothers and sisters let's evolve, let's juts love each other..no killing of anything...
protect life, nurture life, spread life..
love
joy
truth
thank you
thank you
thank you
namaste
This same sort of firestorm over dietary issues recently erupted on the Renegade Health Show because the author of The Live Food Factor confided that she (Susan Schenk) is no longer vegan.
What nobody seems to realize is that David's recent incarnations as John Bainbridge and even Edgar Cayce himself hardly set in motion the karmic forces that would make it easy for him to function well as a vegan.
On p. 37 of The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce we learn that Cayce's Source gave him "complete dietetic regimens, which he ignored." On p.478 of the Sidney Kirkpatrick biography of Cayce it says that Cayce "asked for a meal heavy in fried fats and topped it off with a rich dessert and coffee" and afterwards "he proceeded to smoke one cigarette after another."
Cayce was a Pisces, as is David, and Pisces are known to often have issues with
addictions. Meat is replete with addictive compounds, of course. Also, as a vegetarian and then vegan of many decades I've noticed that the people who are most likely to succeed as vegans or at least vegetarians are the ones who stopped eating animal foods out of compassion for animals rather than out of any health concerns.
I think this is because they are reaping the karmic reward for their compassion in the form of their personal biochemistry that allows them to thrive without using animal products.
That is not to say that David lacks compassion -- far from it -- but like many gifted psychics, such as John Edwards, James Van Praagh, Donna Eden -- his genetics apparently don't support a vegan diet because he didn't turn his attention to animal welfare in his past lives but did develop his psychic skills.
I would say he is doing splendidly in overcoming many negative propensities left over from Cayce and Bainbridge, and I greatly appreciate his work. Also,I don't think David really considers himself a guru.
My guru was a vegetarian whose spiritual and psychic attainments were far beyond those that David has claimed. He was a great Ch'an patriarch from China who insisted that his disciples maintain the precept against killing by being vegetarians, and he often said that eating meat could lead to future lives as "food animals."
He also carried on the tradition of liberating life, that is, buying up animals destined for slaughter and releasing them. Many a bird and turtle was saved a gruesome death because of this Mahayana Buddhist tradition.
Fascinating discussion and interesting feedback and comments. We all have to eventually realize that we judge things based on our subjective values.
Everyone has a unique collection of programs in their consciousness that govern their body and how it processes things. People's bodies' needs are variable and always shifting.
While we could ultimately live on light it would be unwise to apply a diet that doesn't support where you're at in your development. We're here on Earth for a range of experiences - and there's no objective good or bad about it - so people can try whatever diet they wish to and gain whatever experiences they need from that choice.
People who are into spirituality often seek to apply vegan diets because there is a lightness to fresh vegan foods that can support tuning in to non-physical realms. Yet, the body may have difficulty maintaining itself if there is lack of nutritional components that the body isn't alchemically creating from light or other elements.
Those on light, cleansing type diets would be wise to pay attention to their body and use supplements, superfoods, and if necessary animal foods to help the body build and sustain itself.
Many people can live a long time on vegan diets and be healthy but then at some point start to need increased amounts of certain nutrients again that aren't abundant in plant foods.
Regarding "plant sentience", there is a difference between sentience http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience and sapience http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapience
There is also something called the Sentience Quotient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience_quotient
According to this scale, plants have a very low sentience quotient compared to mammals and fish. So if one is concerned about causing pain to other lifeforms, veganism is the obvious choice.
However, even if plants were the most sentient life on Earth, veganism would still be the minimum standard of decency. This follows from the fact that it requires from 10 to 15 pounds of plant food to produce one pound of animal flesh.
Animals are very inefficient recyclers of protein and much of what they eat goes to physiological processes required for activities such as breathing, digestion and growth, and to forming non-edible tissues such as fur, horns and bones.
If we eat plant foods we cut out the inefficiency and waste of recycling them through animals. In this way, veganism reduces both animal and plant suffering.
A Third density perspective yields the illusion of continuity. The past flows into the present into the future. We evolve from the lower densities in a continuum which leads from the lower worlds to the higher worlds. We tend to think one earns his way into “higher” levels of being or consciousness. The truth is much more mysterious.
Many of us jump around in time and levels of consciousness for the purpose of our souls journey and unique purpose. There are those among us now who have incarnated at this time to be third density humans in particular. People who from a third density perspective have de-volved or gone backwards spiritually. This is only appearance.
This is only appearance because in truth all is ONE and there is no such thing as higher and lower. This third density planet is an exalted state and it is a great privilege to be in this space at this time. There are those who have come “back” to earth to immerse themselves in the experience of Love/Hate, Light/Dark, Togetherness/Separation, Bliss/Despair. There is no place quite like this for experiencing Duality. Duality is indescribably beautiful.
For many of those who have come “back” it is the mundane that is Holy and feeds their souls needs. I realize the profane does not seem Holy but many of these souls have come precisely to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
Not because they are being punished and sent to a lower world to suffer Karma for being bad but rather to become humbled and enlightened in a way that can only be experienced here.
The difficulty for these souls is to stay in the experience. From this perspective staying grounded is the task. Being human is the spiritual goal and living and loving and experiencing consequence in all its Divine Glory is the highest path for these souls.
For these souls most of what we define as spiritual practice is beside the point. The point is to lose themselves in the experience of being human. The problem is how not to come unstuck, how to stay in their body and how to stay in the body with eyes wide open.
The beauty of the third density is that each one of us who is centered in their purpose is constantly supported.
There are those who have opened their eyes and have overcome their fear and now walk as full humans full of compassion and non-judgment who are not striving beyond the moments they are allowed as humans in this time, unafraid of the future or toxins or meat or terrorists or being left behind when the great mother ship comes or Armageddon or……..Death.
Many of these souls are not drawn to religion or spirituality as we think of it. Most aren’t joiners or have any interest in leading others. A rare few have the task of being “public” and experiencing the really outrageous slings and arrows. David is one of these.
I am amazed at his level of humanity. It is only explained by his human love that he has not yet spun off this world. I know he loves this world and its people. He has no agenda other than being here and fulfilling his unique purpose and Hallelujah he is doing it being fully human and experiencing all the Glory and Despair along with the rest of us.
I’m also glad its not me in his shoes. Fortunately there is only one of each of us and my purpose is decidedly different.
Breathing Prana is a wonderful thing when it occurs for those who are so called, Vegan is also an exalted path to follow but to equate either as some sort of necessary step to enlightenment or advanced levels of consciousness is ……well….. presumptuous at best.
As for myself I will eat pretty much what finds it way onto my plate with utter gratitude and continue my belief the third density is an exalted state and will be content with ascension or whatever awaits. This is the best adventure yet.
Celebrate Your Good Fortune, Jodasala
Wow, reading about AA and the 12 Step Program brings to mind the rules and regulations of the Eastern/Western Cults with their isolating, brainwashing, fear ridden and dismpowering agendas. It is scary stuff! Bravo David for taking back your power.
Whatever foods that brings you health, joy and happiness, then keep eating them. I believe in moderation and gratitude of everything I eat.
Thank you David for sharing your mini journey. The only thing constant is change. Sometimes exhausting, but always rewarding.
Much Love and Light to all.
I was vegetarian for 10 years until my body collapsed and my naturalpath doctor let me know I had to eat some form of animal protein or I would likely lose my own life.
It was a difficult choice.
I've introduced meat products for 4 years and feel much better.
DID YOU KNOW ... the Dalai Lama had to add meat to his diet on recommendation of his doctor? It's not highly publicized, but he did. He was given the choice of not being able to be of service to the world or adding meat and being healthy enough to stay incarnated and be of service.
What if the animals agreed they would support David and the Dalai and You in your quest to be of highest good to all?
What if the animals pre-agreed to contribute in this way?
We grow our own chickens for eggs and meat. We pray and they live happy lives. We give thanks for them every day.
I ask that the chickens that come to our farm are those who are agreeing to incarnate for the purpose of being of service and supporting us in being of highest good to all.
We do feel sadness at their passings and also give great thanks to them for their participation and gifts of supporting our lives. We see them as heroes and great contributors to our lives.
I have also seen inside the corporate meat engine and agree with people who talk about the cruelty.
I truly wish my body could live without animal protein. But my system collapses each time I go without it for even just a week.
Thank you David for this great blog post.
I've also tried to find David Wolfe's information on diet.
All I find is multi-hundred dollar products that talk, talk and preach and high priced chocolate and foods, but I can't find an actual suggested protocol that's easy to figure out and follow.
For Blue in China, I totally agree with you and understand what you are saying about being able to afford only "cheaper more commercial" foods.
What if God ate here on earth?
Would God lose all its superpowers if it ate commercial food?
Would all of a sudden God become less "God" if it ate junk food?
That's laughable. Really.
So the "dark boogie guys" can "trap" God by feeding God junk food?
Really. Let's think bigger here.
Could it be that it just takes more gratitude and spiritual awareness to direct the body and manifest health regardless of the food intake?
I one had a broken ankle that I healed in 3 hours with focused meditation and intention ... while I ate junk food in my diet (not meat, but many vegetarians use commercial food and junk food.)
Also, Abraham-Hicks says the body is a chemical factory that with gratitude, love and intention is able to convert even junk food into perfect food for the body.
While I certainly appreciate all everyone is saying here, I believe it comes to each person making the decision for themselves.
If you eat organic food and worry about the price, then it is the worry that will do more harm than junk food.
If you eat junk food with joy, it is the joy that will do you more good than the food.
Abraham-Hicks says no body feed itself good food and worrisome thoughts and expect health.
Likewise, a body can feed itself less than optimal food and loving thoughts and do well.
Regarding the body; You decided to be in it, so use it as you will. Drive fast, have fun and crash or be fairly sensible, get good mileage and enjoy the ride.
Or, treat your body like some odd people treat their cars, by waxing it every weekend and keeping the bodywork spotless until it goes to the scrapheap too. Life is too funny!
As far as the Moderator comment about the reptilians feasting being over the top or exaggerated (not the exact words used)... this is an illusion.
All of life is HOLOGRAPHIC, so if one part kills another... this travels through all levels below the zero point energy dimension (total unity), meaning more bactirial disease (we're not talking healthy simbiotic bacteria like the below person mentioned [those bacteria dont kill us man... they help us.]), more viral dis-ease, more beings killing beings they THINK are lower, and more beings killing beings they think are equal or better.
The chain doesnt stop until ALL stop. Does this mean I go around demonizing thosae who eat meat. OF COURSE NOT! Bless ALL degrees of the path. They give us mirrors to see where we are in the big picture, or where we need to do more harmonizing.
This is not a mater of judgment, but what works and what does not for each individual at that time, BUT ultimately... as I said, ascension will include the cessasion of all cunsumption of whole consciousnesses, save the unifying wich is actually expansion.
Thank you greatly moderator for allowing the reptilian issue to be addressed. It is VERY real. There is even a Christian book called 23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese in which he describes what he thinks is the Christian hell.
He claims he was sent there by no doing of his own, but the very thought that he needs another human to commune with God is what sent him there. I notice that the reptilians beat him when he begins to self-loath in his cell, and leave him alone in his cell when he thinks of his wife and love for her, BUT when he starts to think, "I'll never see her again!" They come right back in to beat and rip him apart.
In truth these reptilians are our creation of the ultimate teacher for those in the ultimate denial of self.... to which humanity has been in. That is why they are terrified of us knowing our truth... that they will fade like shadows as we fade all thoughts not in unconditional love!
If I thought that I could be more healthy physically and maybe even spiritually while sparing animals, I would be completely thrilled. I've lived as a vegetarian a few times so I am not against it.
But--the facts seem to be on the side that we are meat eaters, we are designed that way, and if so I am not going to go against reality, because that would be irrational.
Billybob recently presented an article with a chart on the diet thread on the General Discussion forum that is quite telling. The physiology of humans is that of a meat eater.
I saw no arguments put forth against that chart. Just silence. I see no arguments here either except emotional ones, with the exception that some have stated that we do not need to eat animals products, and that all nutrients are available in plants.
Even this does not seem to be not true. Weston Price has an article which is apparently not available without subscription, by Chris Masterjohn, comparing the nutrients available in plants to that in animal foods. The difference in quantity of nutrients available is astonishing.
And lots of nutrients in plant foods are actually less bioavailable. For example, betacarotine is not vitamin A and it takes the body quite a lot of work to convert it. The B6 in plant foods is not very bioavailable.
Furthermore, if we were not meat eaters, we would not be attracted to the taste and satiety of meat/fat. All animals gravitate toward that which is good for them to eat.
I take exception to those who have informed David that if the vegan diet didn't work for him, he was doing it wrong. If a person is dedicated and intelligent and can't make it work then maybe this diet doesn't come naturally??? How much intelligence and study and dedication should it take for people to simply eat and be healthy?
Maybe someone should come over to the diet thread and explain why humane treatment of animals is a myth. I am sure it can sometimes be, (corporate liars) but it does not have to be.
Two years of peaceful living without fear is a nice life for a steer or heifer. My heifer that I am buying half of next month lives on grass and rainwater with her family. If we were all vegan, she would have no life at all and the entire ecosystem upon which she lives, bugs, squirrels, trees, deer, wildlfowers and butterflies - all of it would vanish as it is plowed under to grow plants, plants and more plants.
Specific plants under our control. Who are we to be so speciesist, that we will decide to destroy multiple species and the ecosystems that support them because we decide that this land will grow only this human plant food?
David's last transmission....Prepare for Transfiguration seems to be a focus above focuses:
1)Transfiguration: a concept in Chistianity which is central to the understanding of Christ as joining the human and the divine.
2) a. a marked change in form or appearance; a metamorphorphosis.
b. a change that glorifies or exalts.
Transfiguration/metamorphosis is part of the ascension we are all here to experience this time.
Perhaps with "glorified" bodies the sustenance required to maintain that state of awareness will, no doubt, be in keeping with a love vibration with no guilt attached.
A Master Teacher said: "It's not what goes in your mouth that hurts you....it is what comes out of your mouth that hurts you."
So:
"YOU ARE IN A MASTER CLASS OF TRANSFIGURATION
So let’s not kid ourselves about the greater implications of what you go through.
It is not something that leads up to a person becoming similar to David or others with his intuitive talents.
What you are growing into will go far, far beyond that level.
This is a master class.
And the goal is nothing more than transfiguration."
David Wilcock Reading - so beautiful.
To all those who are fighting the good fight of getting people off eating cruelly slaughtered animal meat and eating healthier, you surely are providing a noble service.
However, I believe this is something that should be done just as an example set by individuals, while respecting the free will of all soul's decisions, not a belief that is required or should pushed/projected onto anyone.
This issue should not be an outlet for judgment against others. In-fact I believe in order to achieve higher soul evolution, the life practice of non-judgment and acceptance in general is key.
We are all aware that just like animals, plants also have sentient and sacred consciousness. And in reference to the study David mention's in the article, we now know this to be true.
What David did not mention, at least that I saw, was that as a result of either the same study or a very similar or related study David has presented, we also know that when we bless these plants beforehand it's as if they understand they are serving a higher cosmic purpose and begin to do so willingly without the extreme reaction.
And I believe this concept can be extrapolated. The point is all life is sacred.
Spiritually speaking, I believe none of us should presume to know what is right or needed for a given soul's experience, whether or not it includes the eating or killing of animals.
And experience is not about eliminating all negative and leaving only positive. To consider any act or thing, no matter how tragic or uplifting "good" or "bad", is to attach our own meaning and limit ourselves.
If it is true that all is one then there is no "good" or "bad", only us, the one infinite creator.
Certainly by holding the belief that all must not eat any animal products in order to attain spiritual growth is a limiting belief which in a sense is actually holding you back from deeper spiritual growth.
David you are doing an amazing job, thank you for making an effort to post more on your site recently and for all that you do.
You have given so much already. And thank you for being someone real that we can actually relate to.
Sending unconditional love and light to you, and all who may see this. I look forward to seeing you at the one day higher self event!
Hi, In response to the person speaking about no vegan source of b12. THere actually is, and it is an active form, not an analogue. It is a raw vegan source, very unique. Please PM me if you would like to know more.
About 'the vegetarians being angry here, or being so extreme or acting like a religion': Honestly, if you re-read their posts they are simply responding to another persons opinion, and they have that right, especially if they are being told, through one's opinion, that what they are doing is'dangerous, unhealthy, extreme, etc'- if they or many others are/have experienced something completely opposite than you or what David has, do they not have the right to express themselves?
Turning the situation around and looking at some of the 'meat' supportive posts - one could easily say that they are obsessed or fanatical about putting down others who choose to eat differently by excluding animal products from their diet.
By putting so much of your energy and focus on projecting your 'disproval', it becomes rather like a extreme response to another beings choice. And is that the result you really want?
I mean many of us are here to grow & evolve, so, is your reaction in alignment with your intentions? Hopefully they are of the peaceful positively oriented type... :-)
Here is a possible different perspective to take on 'responding/reacting' to veg posts: Why not see the 'good' in what these people are trying to incorporate into their lives (even if you don't follow it or agree) if they are making choices that allow them to live a more peaceful life and that includes becoming vegan according to how they view reality, well then why not look into your hearts and give some praise, love, or say way to go!
By taking a veg post as a personal attack against your choice of eating flesh, is not productive and not really the greatest method to co-exist peacefully.
It takes a lot of courage for many people to stop following the crowd, herd-like syndrome where they just do what they're told - especially in regards to diet.
Why not acknowledge that some of these people here have made an independant choice, despite that it is often met with ardent opposition and animosity, and have the strong will continue to stick by their choices that are separate from the 'group thinking'.
Thanks and hope this helps bring perspective to the friction.
99% Bacteria:
The human body which is comprised of about 1 trillion human cells is host to 10 trillion bacterial cells.
Genetically, human cells consist of about 30,000 genes, while there is 100 times the amount of bacterial genes which enjoy the human body as a host.
Feeling itchy yet?
We are essentially watery bags of bacterial colonies with a human ego stamped on it.
Enjoy your free-range meats, or your periodontal decay; all is right as rain, the law of balance deems this to be so not political correctness nor gender-feminism.
It has been proven time and time again that a well-planned vegan diet can sustain and improve your health.
If a person is ill and weak on a vegan diet it's because they aren't' meeting their needs in a responsible fashion.
That's their own personal fault.
It's not because veganism is an inherently unhealthy lifestyle. Anybody claiming such is stupid.
And until someone proves empirically, beyond a shadow of a doubt that plants are sentient and self-aware, I'm going to keep eating them.
And by empirically, I don't mean "This one scientist wrote this one book about it." You'll have to do better than that.
why does David ALWAYS feel the need to tell people that he knows what's right...he doesn't..
[Moderator: Quite ironic, then, that you proceed to do the same...]
I have a friend who has been a raw foodist for 35 years...she is 72,she looks 45 ish ,has great teeth ,has psychic abilities way beyond David's
as far as the plants panicking argument...another silly one,ifhe graphs go nuts it doesn't mean the plant is FEELING PAIN or SUFFERING...as is obvious with animals,it just means that they are preparing for an event that threatens their survival....stick to the OBVIOUS,animals are murdered unnecessarily with OBVIOUS distress,panic and unhappiness in most parts of theirr lives when factory farmed
David thank you so much. I feel as though I've gone backwards in many ways over the past year and a half.
Once again, you have inspired me to reach higher. I can no longer ignore the urgings from Ra.
I feel like breaking down into a oil-soaked puddle, my birds are dying. My face is red and all I want to do is fall into the arms of the high priestess, where is The Mother in my life?
I miss you, and miss being so open and free. Again, thank you.
Excellent. Awesome. I especially loved the part where you explained the spiritual/psychological aspects to forgiveness, healing, and ultimately awakening. I am left a little confused though.
In the segment you three were agreeing that you don't have to go through pain in order to experience pleasure, but at the end David when you were explaining your book you mentioned the trials, initiations, pains, suffering that people are now going through in order to awaken to reach the higher levels of consciousness.
Honestly I am not judging any of you as hypocritical, but that did jump out at me.
Anxiously awaiting your book and movie. Much love. :-)
One last comment... it is the eating of meat (us killing what we label as lower lifeforms, which is an illusion b/c all is equal and one, yet diverse) which holographically (all parts contain the whole) allows the REPTILIANS (AKA THE 4D VORTEX HOLOGRAMS OF ALL CONSUMPTION BASED CONSCIOUSNESS CREATED BY HUMANITY) to EAT US! Thank you.
[Moderator: Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.]
With diet, it's very simple: everyone's path is different.
I definitely noticed a 100% improvment in my health after trying David Wolfe's raw diet for just a week. I dropped 25 pounds in 2 months and have kept it off. I was literally sick and exhausted for 5 years previously, and the superfoods kicked me immediately into high gear.
I'm currently 90% raw vegan but still enjoying fish about once a week. If I go over that, my health deteriorates. If I go without for a couple weeks, I start craving it.
I noticed the moderator made a personal comment about candida making a high fruit diet impossible for them - the same was true with me!
You must get your internal flora straight first and kill the yeast before going to the pure raw and eating all the sweet fruit. It's a mistake to think you're simply a hostage of yeast.
I can now eat watermelons, apples, grapes, whatever with impunity. You could too if you follow Mr. Wolfe's direction for eradicating candida (not neccessarily going 100% raw). Pau D'arco every day, my friend, and your yeast is done.
Bones and calcium are dense and actually inhibit energy flow. This is why when the pineal gland is calcified it cannot produce decent quantities of the chemicals needed for spiritual connection.
We are evolving to a state where density is not needed... David did you think this excluded bones?
The process is somewhat gradual and we are all in stages. The ultimate outcome is ZERO meat. All will eventually be best benefited by this diet. You will only choose to eat denser foods when you are having an extremely light day, and you want to feel more grounded. Meat is a grounder. Many are only grounded, this will change.
We soon will be eating greens grown directly on the surface of the sea for optimum light absorbtion.
The only reason these raw food eaters seemed "unhealthy" in some aspects was b/c the error in the definition of healthy during this physical change.
Losing bone density is part of becoming your lighter energetic body... which contains NO bones. No one will wave a magic want over your head and change you... it is an exponential change in shifts, until you reach an apex... though your own spiritual and physical work where you do dissapear to those solely in 3D. But I am tapped into a reality where all make the jump.
I also feel that any data comeing to you is relavent. To discount it b/c you began to understand it seems rather counter intuitive to me. Understanding Unity makes ALL data equally important and easily categorized into the dimension of it's origins. A 4D truth (of the mind) is of equal importance as a 5D emotional truth, or a 6D soul truth... or even monad truths. It is a mater of understanding how to use the data... not disreguarding it.
In this case I think David is seperating himself from the One... not owning that ALL data coming in is the One... filtered by you or not. That filter was placed there for athe purpose of alerting you to higher ways of unifying using your mind.
You can fine tune the body, skip the mind, and work on the emotional & soul... but you bet your bones you will be brought back to mastering the mind as your tool... and not something to be put in the shed. Moving to higher dimensions is not leaving anything behind. It is compressing all of 3D and 4D into instinct, so the focus can then be 5D. We do not leave 3D or 4D behind... they are encompassed by 5D. 4D is the mind/time.
It's messages are important as it IS an actual dimension where real beings reside. This shgould not be your higest source by any means, but to remove incoming data b/c you have thought about it... is waste.
Most people write off spirituality as hocus pocus because of the simple reason that most cannot explain it in a way that connects the linear with the holographic mind. To make the connection you must intellectually understand yourself... and all the energy bodies that includes... which are in actuality just one with different made up ranges based on the frequency of the consciousness of that "layer".
Energetic beings do NOT eat meat. They drink what is called "light " drinks. How do we get from physicality to energetic, on the manifested level... that means changing diets gradually (In addition to all of the inner work). Ultimately there will be no killing of animals for resources. ALL IS CREATED FROM WITHIN... EVEN NUTRITION WILL BE THIS WAY.
There are only 2 types of vortecies... consumption or radiation. The consuption is to be used to understand others energy... NOT TO EAT THEM... the radiation is mean to send out a frequency tha thas harmonized all incoming frequencies.
Consuming meat is a consumption vortex activity. In higher truth consumption of any food is such.
It is a question of how dedicated are you? There is a man in India who hasn't needed food in years. A ball of nutrients drops down from an area in the soft palate of his mouth when needed.
This obviously is not for the iniciate, but for the more advanced.
When we were activated by the Arc of the Covenant technology (my husband, son, and roommate)could not eat any food, save one tiny bite of meat to keep us from vibrating away. It was 2 weeks that we ate one tiny meal or less. We were extremely energized. I couldnt even drink a GT's Kombucha raw b/c I felt my head would fly off! We of course had to ground all of that later & gradually build our meals back up to our vegitarian diet.
So you see meat can be like a medicine... but NOT a staple if you truely want to vibrate out of the need for a physical 3D body.
Infinite Unconditional Love & Light to YOU & ALL>
Another brilliant article.
Thanks for keeping it real.
Thought forms that are not polarized in one extreme or another seems to be the resonating idea for me. Wherein finding a balance to sustain one more wholly and Holy. Be it in spiritual form, or sustenance of body form. Is there really much difference?
If done from the intent for Wholeness, to regain the wholeness of foods, the Holiness of self, balancing of energies takes place.
I humbly thank you David for your work.
Namaste'
I first read Cleve Backster's work in 2005 while studying the philosophies of India.
I have many friends who are vegans, raw foodists, vegetarians, and I have brought up the very point you make here, that everything is conscious, everything is feeling, everything is reacting, and we can't presume that we are enlightened enough to understand the difference in death for an animal and death for a plant.
Forming a diet around "plant compassion" is near impossible. And then what about microscopic life?
People who follow Jainism often wear face masks because they believe in microscopic/invisible beings that can be killed just be breathing (they believed this long before the discovery of germs).
Jainists eat no meat and only certain plants that can regenerate themselves after being partially consumed.
Of course, to take seriously these implications and function in modern society is a great feat, I’m sure.
As a political movement, I think Backster's research is the most challenging for vegans.
Albert Schweitzer grappled with these very issues in his universal ethic "Reverence for Life" which goes: "I am life that wills to live in the midst of life that wills to live."
Schweitzer believed that the closer you get to understanding the spiritual nature of reality, the more you need to realize we are all mass murderers of bacteria and plant-life and insect life, and no one is in a position to say one form of life needs to be revered more than another.
To revere all of life you need to view life in a cosmic perspective; a perspective which transcends emotions, politics, and the connection we feel with other mammals.
We still live in a world where you are crazy if you care equally for a plant’s feelings as you do for a cow’s feelings.
If you revere the ant and the whale the same, you are considered mad.
Maybe we need to explore further the origins of these assumptive habits of reverence ... once animals look more human, with bigger eyes and more expression, we humans tend to revere them more than animals and plants that look less human.
Is there a rationale to these distinctions?
I know Rudolf Steiner said something about plant consciousness compared to animal consciousness and human consciousness, and that there are distinctions--but do these distinctions justify the invention of a hierarchy of reverence through which to decide our eating habits?
Just out of curiosity, David. Did you ever consider adding eggs or dairy to your diet to get animal proteins without actually allowing meat?
You mentioned you were very weak on a vegan diet, but were you also weak on an ovo/lacto vegetarian diet? My guess is that the addition of dairy and eggs would have alleviated the symptoms.
I know that dairy & eggs have their ethical drawbacks, as well but there are more ethical sources than the traditional grocery store.
Thanks
First off: We Are One.
Since everything is a part of Life/God, and no one part is more special than another, it stands to reason that it is not better to consume "this" part rather than "that" part.
Secondly: I have seen many people who, like DW, have made dietary choices based on emotions or theory, and who ignore the fact that they are NOT WELL.
Newsflash: If your "diet" is not resulting in health and vitality, it is probably not a good choice.
Thirdly: Every body is different. There is no "one size fits all" solution for diet.
Fourthly: As with ALL things, look to your inner guidance for what to eat and what not to eat.
External sources are not particularly reliable for any sort of guidance, least of all for anything related to your spiritual path.
Fifth: I would recommend to seek a higher vibration FIRST, then worry about what you should do or not do to maintain it.
So many people seem to get caught up on this "purifying the body" thing. It is a great ego trick to make you think you are not "ready" for spiritual growth.
By focusing on working through your issues, and becoming more aware, you will find that those "naughty habits" fall away quite effortlessly on their own.
Sixth: Seeing as how we are (ostensibly) just over 2 years from Ascension, I can't see how whether or not you eat meat is going to make much of a difference.
If only the vegans are going to "make it" then it will be a small harvest indeed.
[Moderator: David has never said that, nor has the Law of One series he draws from. Only that it can optimize a path of seeking.]
With the exception of vitamin B12, which our sterile environment doesn't permit us to obtain from the natural bacteria in stream, river, and lake water and living primitively with bacteria as our ancestors did, but which we can obtain through supplemented food, there is nothing in animal products that is not also in plant food.
If a diet free of animal products is "not working for you", it is only because you're consuming the wrong non-animal products or not consuming the right animal products in adequate proportions.
Animal products are entirely unnecessary for optimum health. Further, even if animal products were necessary to "optimize" health, it is speciesist to think that "optimizing" my health (rather than having merely good health) is more important than others' entire lives. As such, consuming animal products is contributing to unnecessary enslavement, harm, violence, and killing. That is something that I will not be a part of, and I cannot imagine that anyone with a clear conscience would be a part of it either, unless they became temporarily confused by the widespread acceptance of such extreme violence.
[Moderator: David was making two points in regards to this, as far as I see it... and he has spoken about this before and at events, so here goes:
1. Weston Price's research into "Activator X" showed that we get spectacular benefit from certain animal products -- including organic butter oil and fish liver oil.
This includes elimination of arterial plaque, regrowing of damaged tooth enamel and decalcification of the pineal gland, with clear psychic benefits;
2. These types of letters attack anyone who does not agree as not having a "clear conscience" and therefore is part of the worldwide Devil, as David was saying.
Yet, his point was that there is constant life and death going on. With Backster we know plants are thinking and feeling, and very much attuned to what is going on around them.
It's not easy to adjust to this concept for some people, obviously.]
If the seven yogas of Indian philosophy are accepted and lived up to then the matter of diet would be under Hatha yoga.
It seems to me that our time would be better spent in Bhakti(devotion) or Raja(meditation) where we would get individual help on dietary needs.
Then maybe we could even become like one of the documented cases of those who never eat anything.
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it can be found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But, when after observation and analysis you find anything that agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all then accept it and live up to it. -Buddha
David,
It's no surprised these days that people are opting for "happy meat" and "happy animal products" because sadly all large animal organisations are promoting "happy" animal products to the public. So now we have an epidemic of "conscientious omnivores" thanks to so called "animal rights" orgs like PeTA etc. These orgs have lost their way entirely and have sold out other animals completely.
95% of the planet's population are nonhuman. We have a moral obligation not to use them for our pleasure. We have a moral obligation not to use them as property. However sadly we see ourselves as supreme and owner of the planet and all the other animals on the planet. We view other animals as our property. This deeply shared ideology we share in society is called speciesism.
Where we have one kind of discrimination --- speciesism -- we will have all kinds -- racism = sexism = heterosexism = classism and so forth. They are all kinds of violence and we must reject them.
Despite the disparaging remarks about veganism that it is "purist" or "extreme" or "fanatical" etc by large animal organisations and some nonvegans, veganism is the minimum standard of decency. It is an act of nonviolent defiance. It is our statement that we reject the notion that animals are things and that we regard sentient nonhumans as moral persons with the fundamental moral right not to be treated as the property or resources of humans.
Ethical veganism represents a commitment to nonviolence. Your term "ethical meat" is a nonsense. Murder can never be ethical, no matter how "humanely" a sentient being is used. I personally find statements like "I used to be vegan" sad and offensive and this is because I consider veganism an ethical obligation and responsibility. When someone becomes nonvegan after being vegan, it obviously wasn't an ethical obligation to them in the first place. Veganism is much more than a diet. If veganism is about ideals which I believe it is, than it saying "I used to be vegan" is akin to saying "I used to be a feminist," or "I used to be in favor of civil rights."
Finally I would like to share a quote by a friend Dan Cudahy:
"An argument against human chattel slavery:
99.999% of our uses of human slaves are unnecessary by any coherent concept of the word necessary. 99% of our uses of human chattel slaves harm them. Unnecessary harm is morally wrong. Therefore, 99% of our uses of human slaves are morally wrong.
The same argument against nonhuman chattel slavery:
99.999% of our uses of animals are unnecessary by any coherent concept of the word necessary. 99% of our uses of animals harm them. Unnecessary harm is morally wrong. Therefore, 99% of our uses of animals are morally wrong.
All of the arguments for animal use can be applied with equal force and cogency to the use of human chattel slaves. When we defend animal use, we necessarily defend human chattel slavery.
Human chattel slavery benefitted many people greatly throughout human history, but 99.999% of it was not necessary; therefore morally wrong. The exact same argument holds for animal use.
Go vegan."
FYI : Dan's blog -- Unpopular Vegan Essays --
http://www.unpopularveganessays.blogspot.com
[Moderator: I am letting this through but it is clear that the same person is writing under multiple aliases.]
David, there seems to be quite a bit of projection and defensiveness on your part, in relation to comments from vegans, including me. Please don’t presume to tell me what my spiritual outlook is. You don’t know me and have no idea on my spiritual philosophy or how I live my life, and I don’t appreciate being labeled as “spiritually bankrupt” or being given negative prognostications on my soul evolution, simply because I disagree with you. I am someone who has read and appreciated a great deal of what you have written, and watched all your videos a number of times, and recommended your work to others. In fact, in recent times I have read something on your site every day and see no reason to discontinue that, simply because we disagree on one area. I appreciate the sincere efforts you make on behalf of others.
My comments do not imply that I see myself as part of a special, elite, insider group, or better than other people. I am well aware that I have many imperfections and have a long way to go in terms of spiritual and moral development. I am also aware that what we eat is only one factor in our overall spiritual evolution, and that as imperfect humans we all tend to be lopsided in our development and have our blind spots. I do not think there is a special place in heaven being reserved for me because I am vegan, and that all non-vegans are going to hell. So please don’t lump me in with that kind of fundamentalist mindset.
However, while I am aware of my own shortcomings, I do not need to be perfect to take a strong stance on an ethical issue. I, and other abolitionist vegans, do not see all non-vegans as “vicious animal killers” and I never said that they are. Yes, the incarceration, torture and killing of animals is cruel and causes them great suffering, but those who are doing the killing are usually in that job, extremely unpleasant and low-paid as it is, because they are poor, immigrant, uneducated or all of these, and have no other options. They need to survive like everyone else.
They are not necessarily vicious at all and may be very kind and gentle people trapped in a bad situation. These people are certainly worthy of compassion, not judgment. The meat industry is exploiting tthem just as much as it is exploiting animals.
Some slaughterhouse workers do unfortunately become “vicious animal killers”, who enjoy inflicting pain, but this is a direct result of the brutalisation that occurs as a result of their work.
Usually, those who buy animal products are simply ignorant of the conditions in which animals are raised, and too conditioned by cultural habits and an ingrained speciesist mindset to be able to question the practice of eating meat and other animal products, or, more importantly, the whole concept of animals as property. Or they may be sincere people who have been misled by the myth of “humane meat”, meaning, they simply do not know the facts of what these animals endure and possibly, if they did know, would not support it. Again, these are not “vicious animal killers”.
Even the people who own the animal abuse and slaughter industries are not necessarily vicious people. They simply want to make a profit and produce whatever product sells. They would just as happily sell bananas as beef if it made them the same profit. While I disapprove entirely of the business that these people are in, I know that in their private lives they are likely to be loving parents, friends and spouses. The point is, we are judging the actions, not the people committing them. We are not saying that they are spiritually bankrupt because they kill or eat animals. We are not omniscient and cannot know the inner heart and mind of any other person, so are not in a position to judge them spiritually. We are saying that there is a cultural practice that needs to change, for the sake of basic justice.
It’s not about demonising anyone. It’s a continuation of the social reform movements that took a strong stand to change societal attitudes on slavery, racism and sexism. Speciesism is just more of the same, in that it is discrimination based on the morally irrelevant criteria of species, instead of race or gender. The only criteria that is relevant is sentience. Do these creatures feel pain and suffering as fully and acutely as we do? Yes, they do.
I'm concerned that you refer to people like me, who disagree with you, as "haters". If you go back and re-read my comment you will see that it is passionate, but it is not hateful. There is a difference. You say "let's talk about this" and then go on to caricature your dissenters as "bombastic haters", elitists and rabid fundamentalists, and even deem them to be spiritual failures. It seems that you are doing exactly what you accuse your dissenters of doing, i.e. demonisation and stereotyping.
[Moderator: A wide variety of intense comments came in that I alerted David to -- some of which were too intense to publish -- so his response is much broader than to what you wrote below.]
From my own observation and experience with many different diets, and people on different diets, it's interesting to note that from the people i have encountered, the ones who are on the most "pure" diet seems to be the most "angry" people.
Because there is this dogmatic idea floating around that eating animals is "bad", even some yogi philosophy they say that.
But ive trained with many yogis saying its essential to eat meat, due to our genetic code. Maybe its in our genetics to eat meat.
Ive just noticed that a lot of "healthy vegetarians" majority seems to be very unrooted and dogmatic most of the time.
Not all, but just the ones that say eating meat is "bad". Killing plants is causing destruction too btw.
I would like to comment on the statement from Sivliya Todorova above.............she said...
"WHEN A PERSON DECIDES TO REALLY BE SELF-LESS, COMPASSIONATE, AND APPRECIATING THE FREE WILL OF OTHERS, THEN ONE CAN UNDERSTAND HIS THOUGHTS.
HOPE MORE PEOPLE GO TO THIS DIRECTION SOON.
TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY IN YOU GUYS!
REMEMBER- WHAT YOU FIGHT, YOU ATTRACT, AND WHAT YOU ACT FOR - YOU ATTRACT- BE PRO-ACTIVE FOR THE POSITIVE, NOT ANTI- AND HATING FOR THE NEGATIVE".
On one hand I get her "point" here after all the diet debate. People shouldn't tell each other how to eat without being asked.
I jumped on the band wagon here too when maybe I shouldn't have. I have a long way to go with the law of attraction.
But I am new to David's studies and still trying to understand.
I have watched most of his videos on you tube, totally fascinated, and read some on his website and I have run across the idea that is stated above that we draw to us what we put out there.
I must admit that my first reaction to this was that if giving an opposing opinion, complaining and worrying is negative and wrong because it attracts the same back to us.......it just feels like we are being told not to be human with human emotions.
That we are suppose to talk ourselves out of our reactions and emotions.......that in the process of trying to be positive we might get taken advantage of by others.
And how far does it go or how does it work that we shouldn't interfere with someone else's free will?
How is that really possible if we are all interacting? Is it that you are not suppose to offer information or start an argument but if someone else does you have a right to stick up for yourself?
I am in no way being critical of the statement above......I am only trying to understand it.
I would like to be a more positive person, worry less, and not be so critical of others.
Hello DAVID!
A while ago on an interview with camelot you were talking about cod liver oil? I checked out greenpasture.org and im still very confused.
i was wondering if you could possibly write a short snippet or something somewhere to let us know how to get more information on that besides just the site which shows us how to buy it.
ea: what it does, how it works or whatever. whenever you have time. thanks!
Thanks David.
I have struggled with drug addiction and to a lesser extent, alcohol dependency.
I started going to AA and NA, but found myself not being able to relate to the people there.
I also didn't see a point to constantly talk about drug use when that was the very thing I was trying to avoid. Not exactly using "The Secret" now, is it?
In a way, I sometimes wonder if I am doing the right thing by not going. Thanks for affirming the fact that you don't need a 12 step program, you really just need to exercise spirtuality.
Hi David. I used to be a hardcore animal rights activist and vegetarian.
I was very young at the time and got involved without influence from anyone else, which astounded everyone, but I was also very unhappy and angry at what I perceived as social injustices against animals.
I embraced the whole thing with a sort of religious fervor, and it took a long time for me to soften up and be more tolerant of other views.
This was a huge growth process for me.
By the way, I was not that good of a vegetarian! Still had a lot of junk in my diet.
I'll stay vegan, thank-you-very-much.
I've only been vegan for 2 years now, but my health has improved dramatically and I'm of a more peaceful mind.
Excuse the harshness, but the idea of "humane meat" is moronic. You're still consuming animals which have been born into the world for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. It's sickening.
I'm not sure if the mods will allow this comment or not. I'm not trying to start a fight, though this will surely be interpreted as such, and I know this is a controversial topic.
Thank you, David. This is an amazing video and I am very grateful to have added another chapter to my book of all knowledge.
I have just two issues, not that you may even read this, but I hope so.
Firstly, you mention black holes, yet these are explained away quite convincingly in Thunderbolts of the Gods, which I am sure you are familiar with, as bad science.
You yourself described gravity as the net force of two streams of cosmic energy.
Secondly, the Illuminati. I don't believe that they should be exterminated as undesirables, but at the same time I've heard accounts, particularly related to MKULTRA and MONARCH programs which are frequently referenced symbolically in the entertainment industry but also documented hundreds from official court cases, that are nigh unforgivable.
How can we be expected to forgive the abduction and ritual rape and torture of thousands of children?
The Jews didn't do those things, but the Illuminati truly are responsible for the most heinous crimes against humanity that never saw the light of day.
Surely this cannot be water under the bridge when it still goes on to this day.
Put this into context for me if you can, because that is beyond criminal.
[Moderator: As the whistleblower Svali said, most of these people don't want to hurt anyone and would get out in a 'mass exodus' if they could.]
David, and others, this is a serious question: Since you are OK with meat-eating and the whole idea of kill and be killed, which you see as just part of the natural order, how do you feel, really, about being meat for someone else, or your children or parents being meat for someone else?
I have read that there are certain reptilian ETs who like to eat human flesh and who want to colonise us as a food source.
They are generally deemed to be evil in this regard. But if they are following the same logic as we do and simply see as as a nutritious and plentiful food resource, would you feel alright about being raised for food as long as they let us "free range", i.e. did not keep us in factory farms or concentration camps?
Is there any reason in your minds why this would be wrong?
[Moderator: Although I believe David to be a humanitarian, I think this is taking it too far...]
I appreciate good foods those which leave less toxicity in the body after digestion such as:
1.Sweet fruits raw 0% tox 80% of daily intake
+ Avocado
2. Seeds raw 0% tox 5% of daily intake
Sunflower Seeds
Pumpkin Seeds
Sesame Seeds
Nuts 10% tox
Walnuts
Almonds
3.Vegetables raw 5-20% tox 15% of daily intake
Be aware that: meat, fish, dairy products, eggs, processed foods leave 60% or more toxicity in the body.
As the physical body keeps continue its evolution to enlightenment, less materiel foods will require. Clean dew and rain water is well received as well.
My loved drink food is almond milk with rain water or dew.
I salute and wish best to David Wolfe and Nick Good as well!
[Moderator: I am one of many people who have problems with systemic candida yeast infections -- and in that case it is actually toxic to have fruit or any sweeter foods in general, except apples, blueberries and raspberries. So it's all relative...]
DAVID IS JUST SHARING HIS EXPERIENCE AND THOUGHTS AS A FRIEND OF OURS, SITTING AT A CAFE AND CHATTING, HE IS NOT COMMANDING OR PREACHING YOU(ESPECIALLY CONCERNING DIETING).
WHEN A PERSON DECIDES TO REALLY BE SELF-LESS, COMPASSIONATE, AND APPRECIATING THE FREE WILL OF OTHERS, THEN ONE CAN UNDERSTAND HIS THOUGHTS.
HOPE MORE PEOPLE GO TO THIS DIRECTION SOON.
TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY IN YOU GUYS!
REMEMBER- WHAT YOU FIGHT, YOU ATTRACT, AND WHAT YOU ACT FOR - YOU ATTRACT- BE PRO-ACTIVE FOR THE POSITIVE, NOT ANTI- AND HATING FOR THE NEGATIVE.
HOPE THIS WAS USEFUL.
HUGS AND TONS OF LOVING POSITIVE COSMIC ENERGY TO DAVID AND ALL OF YOU
I have similar views to David (I didn't watch the video); our meat based food industry is destructive to our society on account of how many more resources animals consume than plants.
They use up more land and most of the corn (GMO of course) grown actually just goes to feeding livestock. There are global food shortages, yet we pay farmers not to farm land and such. Also, if you've seen any stories or documentaries about factory farming, it's quite obvious that that is not what the universe intended to have done.
However, I've heard stories of animals in the past walking into a village to be slaughtered, the lord definitely providethed. On the same note, many of these animals were put here on Earth (by our space brothers and heavenly entities) so we could eat them and survive in the distant past. Without eating these animals we wouldn't have made it through the hard times.
So, if we grew cannabis, soy, sunflowers, and some other well rounded plants we could easily feed the whole world and we'd be far healthier.
But, as St. Germain through Azena said, plants are every bit as alive, sentient, and sacred as any animal. So becoming a vegetarian is not an alternate path to killing sentient life. You'd have to go with prana style breathing exercises and suck up plenty of sun to get away from it, but very few of us are up to this with our busy lifes.
"There is nothing spiritual or compassionate about preying on innocent beings." I'd say that plants are even more innocent and even more helpless than animals, so in that view it'd be more morally correct to eat animals since they can put up a better fight (more sportsman like).
I would like to hear someone tell a Native American that him killing a long-lived deer with a homemade bow, saying a prayer over it, sharing it with his village, and using every last piece of it is unspiritual or moralistically wrong.
Though, on the other hand, as I tell most people, it is ok to eat meat, that's why they're there, but we have certainly evolved far past needing to eat them in such ridiculous quantities.
I know of many vegetarians who have gone back to eating meat because of health issues. I still eat meat occasionally and every time I thank it several times. This obviously doesn't much change the fact that meat is dense (vibration wise), and similar to crystals picking up residual negative energy, the factory farm animals carry over their negative energy (lack of life force may be more accurate) of living in a factory farm to you.
I'd say all of us, but a small handful, ate meat without much concern until we found out about how terrible the industry is. It's all about intention, once we have the information then it's very much so our responsibilty to do something about it. But, we cannot much criticize the uninformed and those like the poster in China who have very little alternative options.
So killing animals is bad, but dying from malnutrition is worse. There are proper ways to go about it and all your food should be thanked.
However, we in America live in a country that has long since evolved past a meat based diet as extreme as ours. Living in a vegetarian society would also open the door to research into figuring out the best ways to get those few things we need from animals without using animals, or without killing them, or atleast only killing as few as possible.
So don't hate so much on the meat eaters (they were born into this existing crap), criticize the oligopoly we have on the food industry in America that is ritarding evolution and purposely poisoning us for too many reasons to list.
Then spread the news to those around you of living a fuller lifestyle through eating healthy (as most all of us know, the body, mind, and soul are very much connected).
P.S. Thanks to my brother and I eating healthier my parents eat much better and only eat meat about once a day. My Ma then got around to reading a Jane Goodall book that spoke of the atrocities of GMO and such (I don't think it was even the main point of the book) and that's all it took for her to realize we are most certainly being purposely poisoned. She then began looking for small farms to get her meat and eggs from.
So don't hate on the meat-eaters, instead make them a delicious meal without meat to show them how easy it is to eat right. Also, Morningstar chicken patties and Silk very vanilla soy milk are one of the most delicious addictions you can have.
I enjoy your spiritual philosophy. but I dont believe in meat eating, but do eat free range eggs and some dairy products. This suits me fine.
The Essene Gospels of Jesus Christ does not promote eating animals or animal sacrifice, but does allow raw fresh milk on occasions.
Its so good to here Davids comments on food and I totally agree.
I believe all conciousness chooses how it comes into physicality, and ending the life of a cow is no different to ending the life of a piece of broccoli, its how its done thats important.
And how interesting it is reading the vegetarians comments, it a religion to them, which is the very thing I want to get out of my life.
David, Ive been following David Wolfe's raw food diet for some time now and feel several times better mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually than I ever thought possible.
Some people (blood type Os in particular) need more protein in their diet which is usually a stumbling block to a transition to a vegan diet. David Wolfe and Gabriel Cousens are both blood type Os (and as far as I know have great teeth). The idea is to introduce high protien superfoods like Hemp seeds, Maca etc. These things haven't been readiliy available until recently, so meat had been the best option. I think this is why Carla was told to eat meat.
There doesn't seem to be anything "in meat" that you can't get from plant sources. Other than perhaps Activator x/vitiamn k2 and vitiman b 12. A skate fish and b12 supplement would seem to be more beneficial than a big plate of organic meat.
Id like to hear more of your thoughts on this.
Thank you
Derek
My partner and i have been raw and vegan for close to 10yrs now and do not experience problems that have been mentioned above and in the article.
The changes physically mentally and emotionally are far reaching that we have both noticed and look back on the 'meat eating days' as extreme, in the sense that we supported a being dying to maintain life (not even healthy).
The physical changes of weight loss, regulated periods, pms disappeared, easier to gain muscle, MASSIVE energy increase and strength increases, acne gone, food allergies gone, hair growth increased rapidly and thicker new strands, nail growth and little to no breakage, complete reversal of gum disease, gingivitis, and cavities - this was brought to our attention by two separate dentists - they couldn't understand what we were doing different!
The mental changes were: Paramount increase in memory, focus, and ability to learn and retain new information. I could not imagine giving up these amazing benefits to go back and eat the 'organic' grass fed animal flesh'.
I could not imagine going back to worrying about my weight all the time. We are so happy about how we eat and the amazing effects.
I do notice over the years that people who went back to eating meat is usually due to a lack of having enough healthy fats in their diets. That is why they suddenly feel better when they start to eat some fish - however, it becomes an issue of knowledge of nutrients and where to get them.
Unfortunately, most people only know animal sources to get certain nutrients when there are abundant plant sources out there that have been eaten for thousands of years, yet are relatively unknown to our present day S.A.D. diet.
Once you know where to get your nutrients, the needs for the animal products really becomes redundant. It helps that we have educated ourselves formally and informally in nutrition to understand how to eat to get all of our nutrients and to understand the misconceptions out there about living/eating this way being 'extreme','only good for short periods/detox' or 'deficient' in any way.
Just my two cents and want to present an example of people that live this way for long periods of time with an amazing increase in health.
The choice is yours but, i think it is important to be INFORMED before making your choice, and not buying into the fear and hoopla of naysayers. If you want to eat meat, go for it.
but who are you to judge people who want to make a choice that is different from yours? Making judgements based on ignorant opinions, fear, and misinformation does not help anyone else and seems controlling and defensive.
But why so defensive? If you want to eat your meat, do it. I am glad i didn't listen to the fear mongering that i am reading here, back when i changed my diet, because i would have just followed the crowd without thinking for myself and doing my own research.
I couldn't be happier right now with the effects of how i eat for the last 8-10 yrs. Have a nice day!
Hi!
The singular question of Diet seems to raise more hell and controversy than all the other bugaboos of mankind put together--which of course encompasses religion, philosophy, politics,sex,money,ad infinitum.
For an example of the turmoil such a subject creates one is welcome to check out the nutrition thread(s) on the Divine Cosmos Forum.
As for myself I appreciate the ideal of living on plant food, but I've found over the years that I can't sustain my health beyond a certain point, then find that I have to occasionally add a small amount of animal protein in order to feel physically grounded and able.
I don't crave it and have to remind myself to take the 'medicine' (The renowned George Bernard Shaw --a staunch proponent of vegetarianism -- had to take liver extract to survive. He classified it as medicine rather than food )
Twice above the so-called "China Study" has been hailed as the premier scientific study par excellance which has settled the question with absolute finality.
There is a problem in that Campbell's work does no such thing. It may be all sorts of things but one thing it is absolutely not and that is "Scientific"
I used to recommend it -- but without understanding its serious limitations.
Here is a most important critique:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/the-china-study-vs-the-china-study/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+drmikenutritionblog+(The+Blog+of+Michael+R.+Eades,+M.D.)
Wow! Sorry! guess you can copy and past on google/
thanks for reading, billybob
You are quite brave David in bringing up the diet subject!!!
I am here to try to add a little balance to all the non-meat eaters out there that are so strongly against eating meat.
I have done a lot of reading about diet trying to figure it out for myself and I have seen over and over again stories of people who were vegan/vegetarian for years and gave it up to discover that they felt better and were healthier after eating meat again.
Our teeth are designed to be omnivores and humans were designed to be meat eaters.
If any of you are upset about that, then take it up with the creator.
Yes, the beloved China study is always brought up by the non-meat eaters but I have read over and over again that the study had many flaws.
Look it up on the internet.
Also a fairly new book called "The Vegetarian Myth" explains why the whole ideas and ideals of not eating meat has many flaws including ethical ones.
I mean just the clearing of land for the purpose of farming had damaged the environments of wildlife.
Even Steve Irwin was a meat eater after doing some careful evaluation.
As far as raw food eating goes.........I'm still on the fence about it.
There seems to be a lot of people solving major illnesses with it, but I also wonder if that mostly happens because they gave up all junk/processed food as part of it.
I feel that eating healthy is hard enough without going to such extremes plus there were many ancient/hidden cultures who were healthy but still cooked some or most of their food.
Check out the research of Weston A. Price who lived with and studied these cultures.
I do think it is good to include some raw foods.
For myself I know I feel so much better when I have some animal products and since keeping blood sugar even is part of keeping weight down and preventing diseases, eating meat is very necessary for keeping blood sugar even and warding of hunger.
There is a whole paleo/primal community out there now who is kicking butt on getting healthy and building muscle as they return to the way our bodies were meant to eat.
That is the direction I am leaning. Thanks David!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4vumb8J-x8
NBC series "the Event"...conditioning the rest of the people towards disclosure?
Yipes! A lot of high horses represented here! Losing the gist of the whole message!
Take what YOU need and let the rest fall where it may. The work is on going and wonderful!
I cannot afford to go organic as much as I would like to. SS is insufficient for the lifestyle.
Love your work David! It brings it all together for me and myriads of others!
Odd comment, but, the foods that the ETs you mentioned (IE green gel, etc.) seem to lose something in the translation?
Unless it has been experienced, taste, texture and all that goes with 'eating' would be missed by me.
Experience is half the battle? Am I making sense? Love to you and all!!!!!
Wow, it is really hard for people to see the whole sometimes and as soon as their predilections are affronted they began to sling the arrows.
Some ... Some may need meat(of course cruelty free if at all possible of course bless and give thanks, for they sacrifice their lives as do the plants....who am I (or you) to judge that.
You are brave David!
I do wish you could come back to Texas! We need more people like you coming and presenting in the middle of the country! Come to North Texas the next time!
THANKS FOR YOUR INTERVIEW WITH THESE TWO, VERY INFORMATIVE!! AND JUST ANOTHER PIECE TO THE PUZZLE OF HARMONY AND BALANCE....
YOU ARE GREAT RESEARCHER, DAVID!!!!! KEEP UP YOUR WORK AS YOU ARE MUCH APPRECIATED.
HOW DO WE ORDER SOME OF THESE PRODUCTS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THIS INTERVIEW???
LOTS OF LOVE & LIGHT TO YOU
JULIE
I understand why some of you have outburst about David supporting meat-eating, and I whole-heartedly respect your opinions.
You must understand David's view point is heavily grounded in the law of one channelings.
The law of one states that all matter is conscious. If we were to accept the universal truth that I believe are within the law of one through Ra, than what it means to be vegetarian is completely different than what most people believe.
Basically, if everything is one and conscious, wouldn't it make us hypocrites to gain life force from one entity (plant-life) but not another (animals)?
Just because things seem simple, doesn't mean they are. There is always a greater picture to be seen, and we need to learn to accept different ideas as being okay.
I respect everything is different for everyone, and you should too. I just wanted to shed some light on the justifications of David's actions.
I highly recommend reading David's Law of One study guide on this website, as you will gain much more substance to what David is trying to tell us every week.
Peace and love,
Jonny
c'mon guys, don't be so judgemental! Let the boy enjoy a little meat!
I struggled with the vegan diet too, David, and went back to a little meat, too, because my health was slipping.
However, I prefer to eat only meat that I 'know,' either raised by me or someone I know.
I don't see a problem if a creature is taken in respect and gratitude, with a pure heart, the way Native people did back in the day and (dare I say), the way the Navi did in Avatar.
Another alternative for me is eggs. I generally watch what the animals do, and pretty much all 4-leggeds and many 2-leggeds absolutely loooove eggs.
Of course I have chickens who gift me with 1 egg each daily, so I have no concerns ethically, and I know what I'm getting.
I think if vegans want to be vegans, that's fine, and I think if folks eat a little meat, that's fine too.
Extremism and 'againstness' is what is worrysome to me, it represents a clinging or clutching to something, which we all know blocks the energy channels much more than a little dietary variety peace, vegans, be nice!
People always harp on about eating animals being cruel -- but in nature, life eats life.
Even a plant is living and conscious.
Humans do need animal products. The most unhealthy people I know are vegetarians. (I used to be one).
Perhaps when an animal gives its life selflessly to feed another (as is Gods will and the natural life cycle) they ascend up the chain of evolution. Ever thought about that?
Even Jesus fished, right?
Vegans, raw foodists and vegetarians can be extremists just like religious extremists.
Thats all well and good if you are living in a 'civilised" country where you can actually buy organic produce.
I live in China where the only meat I can get is factory raised. I have to eat it but I bless it and give thanks.
It's great to live with enough money and shops to buy green and organic , but don't tell us "not so lucky" individuals that eating factory meat will damage us spiritually.
I have no choice and I do my best with what God gives me. Perhaps a few more constructive points as to what we -- the less fortunate-- can do such as blessing and giving thanks.
All the best Babyblue xxx
I drew out the crop circle above and rotated the piece and i came out with something that looked like an owl face.
That was my first instinct was to rotate the image. It initially looks like a magnifying glass ontop of the image.
Basically, two circles and in between them at the top a pie shape pointing down and and on the bottom and pie shape pointing up.
In the center of the circles in the center are the two half shaded circles which sort of represent the pupils.
It sort of reminded me of an owl's face.. which maybe is our reminder of "Wisdom"?
I agree with Linda McKenzie wholeheartedly. There is no justification for intentionally killing sentient beings of any kind. it is unavoidable to kill a lot of the time, such as when we walk on the grass or when we dig the soil, or even when we breathe. But that is no justification for deliberate killing, especially when we don't need to eat meat to be healthy. This is a fact that is accepted by nutritionists. The China Study is the most advanced nutritional study that has ever been done. I would like to know why David thinks that he has the right to feed off other lifeforms who value their lives and want to go on living. As humans, we should be beyond being predators if we consider ourselves to be on the spiritual path. There is nothing spiritual or compassionate about preying on innocent beings.
I really enjoyed the balance of the two Davids in-between Nick Good. Mixing metaphysical philosophy with high density nutrition is a great combination.
As far as eating meat goes - I think people forget that plants have feelings too.
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2008/12/09/recent_studies_have_proven_pla.aspx
We are all a part of this glorious energy and soon enough our own physical bodies will become food for something else, bacteria, grass, etc.
I like what David says about the loss of personal identity or ego. This is backed up by thousands of years of mystical teachings and should be the foundation of everything we do.
Keep up the great work!
From the point of view of spiritual development, according to the Hindu yoga teachings, a plant-based diet is a sattvic diet. That means it is a diet that contributes to a peaceful, loving and harmonious mind. Meat is a rajasic food which inflames the passions and causes restlessness, and is also tamasic because it is in a state of decay, which has the influence of making the mind more dull and stupid. So overall, meat is bad for your spiritual development.
David, you may be so advanced spiritually that this doesn't affect you, but you are still contributing to cruelty and murder, and that can't be good for you or anyone, karmically.
David, I'm very disappointed to see you advocating meat-eating. What a backward step. Meat-eating involves immense cruelty to animals, and this includes "free range" and "humanely raised", is damaging to health, damaging to the environment, and is a major cause of third world hunger. Also, according to both Hindu and Buddhist teachings, killing sentient beings, including for food, is the worst karma that one can incur. Killing is killing, regardless of species. This karma extends to those who purchase and eat the meat, since without the consumer, there would be no slaughterman or butcher.
Moderator, thanks for your comments, but the killing of animals for frivolous reasons is not an "emotional issue". It is a scientific fact that animals are as sentient as humans, and it is also a fact that they have emotional lives and family bonds. It is also a scientific fact that a plant-based diet is associated with lower rates of all types of degenerative illness. Also, we don't need your advice to follow the raw foods or vegan path if it works for us. We are quite capable as thinking adults of making our own minds up without your instructions to do so.
While it's true that "adopting David's suggestions would represent a very positive and healthy shift in their lives from where they are now", health is not the only issue, or even the primary issue. The primary issue is that 55 billion land animals alone are being murdered for "food" which is not needed by humans. This is an ethical issue.
[Moderator: Again, Linda, thank you for your opinion.]
It is interesting to observe how we can think of eating meat as such a no-no -- but plants are conscious too, and we don't treat eating them with the same horror.
No life ever dies and no life-form goes into the physical without knowing its destiny.
Of course we don't want the mistreatment of animals, but it is up to us to then make more conscious choices about where our food sources come from.
More important than anything is our *perception* of what we eat or drink at the time, as that greatly impacts the effect it has on us.
Rather than fighting against something like eating meat, I would rather live in appreciation and awareness, thankfulness and respect of all life -- and empower that source of life by not assuming that I know what is best for it.
Again, all is energy and all goes into the physical form knowingly and for its own divine purpose.
Personally that resonates much more with me than feeling I need to fight against this or that thing.
There are no right or wrongs. All is presented so we can make our own personal choices and of course part of that is moving towards a more harmonious relationship with all life.
Animals eat each other and they accept that life and death is part of a continuous cycle.
They don't fight against it. It is part of their beingness and experience.
Part of our problems as humans is that we hang onto that fight mentality rather than settling into our true knowing that all is well, always.
[Moderator: David was indeed brave to start this discussion on his website, as the passions within those who embrace a vegan / vegetarian diet can be every bit as intense as followers of a fundamentalist religion.
I do believe David's message of acceptance and forgiveness applies to everyone, and to all things -- including Nature for the cycles that are already visible all around us.]
I am pretty sure that there are zero examples in the world of a vegan people who have reproduced for several generations.
I guess I am lucky because I can buy eggs, chickens, lamb and soon some beef by people who live within several miles of me, and I go see how the animals live.
The environment is being damaged by both the farming of plant foods and the farming of animal foods, because it is done wrongly and out of balance.
For example, the two should be combined and eliminate the need for chemical fertilzer.
Old MacDonald's farm did not damage the environment.
Even if humans stopped taking animals for their use, what about the fact that the whole system of life is based upon this very thing? I agree it is sad.
I'd say that the reason raw foodies might get tooth decay or gum disease is not from rawness, but from malnutrition due to restricted diet.
You are a brave soul David - that is for sure!
As far as mushrooms go, I don't know if you really want fungus to take over bacteria - "Good Bacteria".
It is my understanding that bacteria is needed - maybe even more than enzymes - to keep your body working properly.
I think David Wolfe likes mushrooms because of the high glutamate and possible iron content of certain mushrooms.
Also, raw animal foods have much more MSM than raw plant foods - MSM is one of the key minerals that helps to prevent calcification.
There also appears to be many minerals including calcium, magnesium, and even iron that are involved in building your bones.
Balance is key - always!
David and All Special Guests,
Truly enlightening information and so positive for us all in the now! Life can be a celebration as you continue to show.
My wish is that we can all appreciate the goodness and put forth from our light within.
You are bringing light into my life with every entry on this website.
My husband said to me in a dream "Remember what I told you that if you concentrate on and image" (I woke up) and finished the sentence ... "you can bring it into being".
Because that is what he told me when he was in physical form.
Much Love to everyone, Katherine
There is no such thing as "ethical meat". This is a myth. See the work of Professor Gary Francione. So-called "free-range" and "organic" animals still undergo treatment that can only be described as torture. And they end up in the same slaughterhouses. David, I like your work very much, but am very disappointed that you are perpetuating this cruel myth. What a pity you didn't stick with your previous vegan diet. As Dr. Gabriel Cousens points out, there is no-one who "needs" to eat flesh. If people are having difficulties on a vegan diet, they need to adjust that diet according to their constitutional type in order to make it work for them. See his books, especially Conscious Eating, for details. There can be problems, for example, caused by pH imbalance, which can be remedied using plant sources. Meat is totally unnecessary for human health, not to mention cruel and destructive to the environment. See The China Study, the most sophisticated epidemiological study ever undertaken, for its findings regarding the superiority of a plant-based diet.
Quite apart from the way "free range" animals are treated, it is simply speciesism to regard other sentient beings as the property of humans, mere resources to be used and abused for our pleasure and convenience. Speciesism is a baseless prejudice, no different from racism or sexism. Surely a compassionate person would explore all possible options before resorting to animal products. Speciesism is not based on any morally relevant criteria. Sentience is the only morally relevant criteria here, not intelligence or anything else. Animals are every bit as sentient as we are. It is not how animals are used by humans, but the fact that they are used at all, that is the issue. They have a right to live their lives free of exploitation by us. How would we feel about a species of ETs who justified killing and eating us, on the basis that they we are a different species and less intelligent, and therefore inferior to them? Wouldn't this attitude demonstrate a spiritual blind spot on their part?
[Moderator: David is simply presenting his point of view.
We understand this issue is highly emotionally charged for some people -- so if the vegan or raw food path works for you, then by all means do it.
For many people, adopting David's suggestions would represent a very positive and healthy shift in their lives from where they are now.]
David says that there are 22 archetypes - 7 for mind, 7 for body, 7 for spirit and the fool.
Were do I find these detailed in a way that is easy to understand and apply to life?
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David wrote:
"In the Law of One series, 22 'archetypes' are described in detail. These represent the 22 basic clusters of experience we all have to go through in order to reach a full awakening.
Of these 22 archetypes, fully seven of them are associated with the body. In order to truly awaken, your body must run through a similar series of stages of awakening just like the mind (the first seven) and the spirit, which is the last seven.
One additional archetype represents the origin of the quest for enlightenment -- and is known as "the Fool."
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In other words, I want to know the 7 steps within the body and 22 archetypes in total.
Where do I go to get those detailed in a way that is understandable?
Thanks
..........what a brilliant brilliant chat David, David, and Nick conducted...........
singing my song guys........deep thanks to you all for the love and effort you put forth to help bring us all into the light and new era.......
more power to you, and more to us......I wish I could just be a glom and hang, and absorb in the moments first hand, aahahaaahahaaaaa........giant hugs......
I thought you might be interested in a post I saw on facebook, It was ppposed to be a picture of the sunset, posted by Nelson G Herwig
It was a picture posted by by him of what was supposed to be a sunset except that the sun was blocked out by a big black thing that was right where the sun should have been. The rest of the picture was fine.
Have you seen more of this phenomen ??? Id be interested if you know more abou8t this..
Thankzzzz and have a wonderful day
Deb
Loved the post but don't believe in eating meat and am about 90% raw at this point in my life...
As for bone health these are a few links I enjoyed reading giving tips for what you need in your diet to keep good bone health and can WITHOUT meat!
How to beat/prevent Osteoporosis naturally..
http://bit.ly/bT1BZ8
Calcium Alone is not Enough for Healthy Bones! http://bit.ly/bG7bHI
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