2012 Question

[Robin]

Hi everyone I am new here. I really don't know how to create a post or message, and so I believe that what I am doing now is replying to a thread which is not what I think I believe I want to do. If anyone can give me advice on how to create a post let me know.

I also have some queries about what exactly happens in 2012? Is there going to be some catastrophic event that will change the earth as we know it and therefore everyone will be go through transition (die) and all of humanity will end up in the astral world waiting for the planet Earth's transition to be completed? And once the new planet Earth has transformed itself without its inhabitants - because they are all waiting in the astral word for rebirth - then those in the astral world who are worthy and therefore have been initiated so to speak, are then reborn back to Earth in a new environment in a four dimensional world? And those remaining souls in the astral world who have not succesfully passed this initiation will then be transported to another galaxy and to another planet that is similar to the Earth's previous three dimensional form in order to continue to learn the lessons that they have not mastered?

I believe somehow that I probably have badly misinterpreted the 2012 event. I would be pleased if anyone can clarify this to me because I think my interpretation is somehow grossly exagerated. In a sense I am saying that once 2012 arrives, I and all of humanity will be transported immediately into the astral world in one great event. And this to me sounds incredible and I surely must have not understood the process correctly.

[Perhaps all of our members can help Robin out here-Moderator]

[jpstephens2012]

Hi Robin,

You are likely to get as many different responses as responders to your queries. Truthfully, nobody knows for sure. I have read information from various channels that support exactly what you said. Personally I do not hold that belief. My understanding at this point in time is that several seeming miraculous things are about to happen, the opening of the veil to the christ consciousness, the fall of the dark cabal, the first contact with our galactic relatives, the removal of the dark from our planet, the release of heretofore suppressed free energy technologies, the cleaning of our planet, and the establishment of a new order of things based on love, peace, and freedom, founded in new knowledge and spiritual evolution.

We aren't going anywhere, we're going to do it with the help of our relatives from other parts of our galaxy. There will be some physical upheaval of the planetary surface as Mother Earth adjusts to new electromagnetic influx from the central sun of our galaxy. There will be some loss of physical bodies during this transition. It's even possible we will see some sort of confrontation with the forces of dark. However, we aren't going anywhere. If we can't stop it, we'll live through it. Or not. We are not alone however, we are being helped and because of that help it will not be the horrible Armageddon predicted of old. No one is going to save us from ourselves, we have to.

Yours in the love and the light,

Jim Stephens

[SuperManny]

Hi Robin
Welcome!

I would love to help, as I am sure most of the people here would. I'm just not sure what you need, or what you are asking. It's pretty simple, really. You have just started a new thread, which is what you want to do when you want to discuss a new topic. If you want to join in an existing discussion, just hit that Post Reply button at the bottom of the posts. If you want to respond to a specific comment, click on the Quote button at the bottom of their post. Then if you like, you can edit out irrelevant information. Just make sure the "[/Quote]" is at the end and the "[Quote]" is at the beginning, and that puts it in a neat little box.

You can also highlight text and click on the B, I or U in the upper left to make it bold, italiced, or underlined for emphasis. And if you're not sure, just click the Preview button, because you won't be able to see your reply, until it's approved by a mod. Then click Submit Reply when you're done.

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Now as for 2012, well that's a pretty deep mystery. Ra suggests that we might ascend to the 4th dimension or 'be harvested' as they call it. They don't go into great detail, but do say that it is necessary for the 3rd density body to die before this process is completed. So that leaves it open to speculation.

Will we experience a massive earth change and all die at once, so that we may be reborn in a higher density? Or perhaps it's spread out over several years, more gradually, instead of a sudden massive shift. We don't know but we're pretty sure it's gonna be exciting, as many otherworldly visitors we're having. It seems like everyone wants to be here to watch or participate. I don't think your idea that "all of humanity will be transported immediately into the astral world in one great event." is crazy at all. It's gonna be a wild ride, so hang on to your wits!:)

To learn more about Ra and the Law of One, check out the Study Guide, by Bob Childers, PhD.
You can find the Study Guide on this site, or try this alternate link, which is a bit cleaner;
http://www.spiritofra.com/Ra-section%201.htm

Or you can download a nice clean PDF version here;
http://thesonsofthelawofone.com/Reso...dy%20Guide.pdf

And here is a sort of condensed alternate version;
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/sep2/ra.htm

[daresh]

Well nobody knows for sure what will happen in 2012 we will just have to wait and see.
For the point of view of the law of one checkout:
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=126&Itemid=36

You pretty much have to correct interpretation according to the law of one.
In a nutshell:
The vibration of planet earth will have reached 4d fully in 2011-2013. This makes the earth incompatible with 3d life. There will be an event of ascension.
Where the 4d positive people will go through the ascension proces and stay here on earth. The 4d negative people will go to another planet as earth chose to be a positivly oriented planet (more people positive than negative on this sphere)
and the ones that didn't make a conscious choice yet will go to another 3d planet to finish their 3d cycle. (the big mass, this can be waiting in the astral plane for some time...)

There is not a lot of information about the ascension proces itself.
David Wilcock thinks that we will go through an amazing proces, kind of like a near death experience accompanied by the recollection of all of our lives where our final vibration is distilled from, the ascension proces would be assisted by evolved beings...
So it won't be death in the deadly meaning of the word :)
But we will have to wait and see.

peace,
Filip

[meganarline]

Hey Robin,

I would check out this blog if I were you. I really helped me see the whole 2012 in an exciting way.:)

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=331&Itemid=70

Here is some of it, I'm not sure how much of it will fit

"Bear in mind that even though we see 'climate change' going on throughout the Solar System, the Law of One model does NOT foresee this as a disastrous event for humanity. Just the opposite. None of the data we're sharing with you today should change, one iota, our basic points. Laugh if you will, throw tomatoes, et cetera, but this is what the highly accurate, integrated Law of One philosophy actually says is going to happen:

2012, or thereabouts, represents a POSITIVE moment of humanity's future.

If you are afraid of it, you simply don't understand the 'big picture'. Ra said the earth changes are "very, very transient".
Our solar system is moving into a higher-level zone of energy in the galaxy.
The shift will affect matter, energy, consciousness and biological life as we now know it.

These effects have been felt more strongly since 1936.

This energy is where "thoughts become things," and that partially explains the rise in cancer — people's unhealed anger is projecting as tissue growth.
The Earth itself is a sentient being and is undergoing a graduation into the 'fourth density' positive, which is a realm of 'unconditional love'.
Humanity on earth will move into a realm that is one HUNDRED TIMES more harmonious than it is now.

We will have Ascended abilities such as levitation, telekinesis, telepathy, instant healing, time travel, et cetera.

All you have to do to 'graduate positive' is be slightly more interested in helping others rather than controlling them.

If you think this is difficult, or you might not 'make it,' simply start being friendlier and more loving towards those around you. Very easy.
The 2012 shift itself is painless — akin to moving through a stargate-type vortex. Exhilarating yes, painful no.

The Law of One suggests EVERYONE on earth will flash into the 'astral' plane — a flash that is potentially two-way, allowing you to come back in a typical case — around this time.
It is NOT death in the standard sense of the term, since you have Ascended and brought your body with you.

It appears that most people will spontaneously re-create the Earth, a' la the Matrix, once they go over.

Those who do not go to 4D positive or negative will eventually start again on another Earth-like planet, in 3D.

The 'cycle repeaters' have NOT been sent to 'hell', and they have NOT been 'punished' — they simply go to the area where they can still learn the most on the spiritual level. Until you make "the Choice" between service to self or service to others, you still are gaining benefit from third-density, and will continue reincarnating there.
What happens to those who Ascend to 4D positive, you might ask, as they go through the process — according to the Law of One philosophy?
Those who Ascend will first meet with a thoughtform entity — taking the form of whatever is calculated as being the most inspiring to that person.

You move into your indigo-ray body, what the Egyptians call the "ka". This is the Higher Self.
You are then brought before your violet-ray body — a level even higher than the Higher Self, called the "Guardians" in the Law of One series. This is the last level you get to before you rejoin with the Oneness at the 'Octave' point, or eighth dimension.

At the end of a typical life you review that life and plan out the next.

At the end of an entire CYCLE, like this, you review ALL of your lifetimes — and come up with an overall level of evolution that you attained during all your lifetimes.

Right now, today, you have the power to change how ALL your lifetimes will 'weigh' in this process — simply by engaging yourself in your spiritual process and striving for the highest levels you can.
Given this overview, (which perhaps should be at the END of the article), let's proceed. When I look at these pieces of data, I don't see them as complete in and of themselves — I see them as puzzle pieces in a larger framework that is becoming clearer and clearer with time. The list I just gave is not likely to change, to any substantive degree — only become clearer. "


I hope this helps you as it helped me!! Not sure if I got the quotes in right!

Take care,
Love Megan

[flachiefsfan]

Great post, Filip, thanks!

I'm not concerned about 2012 when I have so much to learn today. 2012 may come and pass but what we do today is what's important.

Ra gave an estimate of the year 2011 but was not specific about what exact date the harvesting would be. The exact date shouldn't matter, whether it's tomorrow or 2053. Your inner spirit will always guide you in the right direction, so enjoy today and don't worry about tomorrow, Robin!

[Rhonda]

Excellent., thanks for posting.... (I hope I got my 1st quote posting right)


This energy is where "thoughts become things," and that partially explains the rise in cancer — people's unhealed anger is projecting as tissue growth.
The Earth itself is a sentient being and is undergoing a graduation into the 'fourth density' positive, which is a realm of 'unconditional love'.
Humanity on earth will move into a realm that is one HUNDRED TIMES more harmonious than it is now.


Just remind yourself and remember, you are already LOVE. When you entered earth through birth, thats the only thing you and I brought with us. It has been our unique experiences that have shape us from or to love., and then back again to love. When you look at another person or thing, see them as the energy they truly are, Love or God! Your thoughts will mirror that feeling ....

Then, you can not help but love all that is, unconditionally.

Peace, love and rainbow light ! R