Hello Africa

[Tsandi MAndi]

david's work has proved me right about thing's i've felt true since time immemorial. although i've rejoiced at this new found perspective and have nearly fully integrated it, i'm not shy to say that i know i still only have my foot in the door so to speak.

i do not mean to stir up any race related unpleasantries but i do have a pressing issue to put out there to any who might feel to comment and give advice or information or just their opinion. as i'm seriously trying to overcome these hurdles i know have to, so i'm sort of bearing all so that you all may have more insight into who i am and how important discussing this is for me.

i am a black namibian living in namibia, through discovering all this different information from ancient history through to dimensional physics and finally to ascension i've been amazed, proved wrong, validated and generally enlightened.

nonetheless, i feel, in a sense, not grounded....lost. i've had what most would call a 'privelaged' childhood here, my parents both being ambassadors and have had the opportunity to travel extensively and live abroad...i was born in germany actually.

i've always had a sense of something 'other' but its nearly not as vivid or clear as many people i've heard and read about through my journey(s) here. i do have vague memories of weird moments in my early age but if anything really special did happen i cannot directly recall it. this has not stopped me from strongly resonating with david's work though. i just turned 26(oct 19) and stopped consuming alcohol a mere 3 months ago and am fighting off the last bits of nicotine as i type.i also do smoke the occasional joint still.

as expected, i did have turbulent teenage years which culminated in me dabbling, quite seriously for a bit, in heavy drug dealing and usage, although that is a hurdle i can say i safely crossed a while back. i have a knack for linguistics, communications, it and the arts but i wouldn't call myself above average in achievements or intelligence. i've never been a negative person i would say but i've picked up some negative habits on the way(of which lying and laziness are my most dreaded). i try to be helpful, although i can be impatient with people sometimes and i am a natural giver.

i have a strong vested interest in the continuing civil rights and self discovery movement of my black peoples in the diaspora at large, with an emphasis on africa of course and have views leaning towards black revolutionary movements back in the 50's/60's and 70's but consider myself modern enough to not let race be an issue to me in everyday life and broader life view in general.

as much progress i've made spiritualy in such a short time, i naturally feel impatient about the speed i'm progressing at, sometimes seeming to trip over the same hurdles in a looplike fashion. not that i'm not aware of the mistakes....i guess old habits do die hard, even with the help of meditation and the like.

my issue is the apparent lack of information, historic or otherwise about africa,mainly black africa in the whole scheme of things in general. i am not fingerpointing here, i am simply stating the obvious. if the world we live in is anything to go by, i know the lazy excuses i get from the history books about my people, which only deal with events in the last give or take 1000 years, are peppered with hogwash. more evident is the absolute blank on african prehistory although supposedly we reside in the cradle of the archetype human species.

as very, very few sites in west,central and southern africa gain enough serious archeological spotlight most of which were raided and further denigraded by colonial treasure hunting and general looting over the years there are few sources one has to draw on ,even on the internet, when trying to uncover anything. i'd like to then expand this point out into the context of all of this information. am i a wanderer? i don't know....some of those questions from mandelker do strike a chord but they are still context to western social modii which many black africans cannot, in africa, answer, and which leaves me wondering if i am not just lucky that my parents had the opportunity to give me a good education and access to to literature. i don't mean to whine but its bad enough that our recent past history(at least what's known and shown in the mainstream) doesn't depict us in the most glorious light, the fact that we seem not to feature at all in prehistory adds insult to injury.

don't get me wrong, david's work is an important torch for humanity and i'd like nothing more than to run out and scream all of this info at the top of my lungs so that all may hear but i know that's asking too much to understand for the average person here(or anywhere i know but especially here), although i tend to flood my immidiate companions, friends and family with this information. one can understand someone in england closing off their reality bubble and not wanting to hear any of this but here the average person doesn't even have the context in which to understand all this information because of the difference in social customs and culture. the lack of anything african in the whole body of information to prehistory/pre-flood makes it harder for a person to relate.

this also throws a wrench into my gears as it makes it difficult for me to find my place in all this. i want to help my black people understand, to think for themselves but how and where do i start....?

of course i stand to be corrected, maybe i'm not looking hard enough or one might argue that the information is not important towards the ultimate goal of understanding the law of one, nevertheless it is important to me and if anyone cares to commment, please do and thank you in advance.

[fiz]

tsandi --

it's great to hear from you. thank you for your candor in sharing your personal situation as a black namibian of 26 confronting the felt gaps between your culture (its history and its present context) and the body of work comprising tloo and david's ongoing research and commentaries.

whether any of us are wanderer's or not probably doesn't make much difference when it comes to the existential predicament facing any of us in confronting the alienating influence at large in the world today. the cultural gaps you describe may very well parallel many of my own cultural gaps as a white american in a fairly well-known city -- though i also clearly hear you when you say that what your cultural surround is one that largely shares little in terms of language or culture out of which tloo and david's work immediately spring.

that said, i have shared my discovery and explorations about the material presented here at divine cosmos with very few people in my own immediate surround over the last 17 years. it really is as if my own hyper-consumerist cultural surround shares little in terms of language or context in this way, either. indeed, only with the advent of the internet have i discovered others with whom this material resonates. my everyday experience as an individual in the midst of my own cultural surround remains one of loneliness and isolation, at times to an hot extreme. it may also be a truism that the nature of esoteric truth is such that to try and share it with anyone who has not in some way clearly asked first will result in failure.

you say "one can understand someone in england closing off their reality bubble and not wanting to hear any of this but here the average person doesn't even have the context in which to understand all this information because of the difference in social customs and culture. the lack of anything african in the whole body of information to prehistory/pre-flood makes it harder for a person to relate."

can you say more about what you mean here? are you specifically referring to tloo/wilcock's reserarch in referring to "the whole body of information"?

regardless, it sounds like you are on the cutting edge of self-discovery in the midst of what seems to be a comparatively unusual cultural scenario in the general context of people speaking on this forum. your perspective amidst the reality of your unique, lived experience may offer some of us a particularly valuable angle with which to reflect upon our own experience and share views accordingly. there is so much we have to share as individuals facing this moment in earth's history! to me, you seem to offer a readily accessible voice from a vastly un-represented and blatantly ignored part of the world in the west. i would be most grateful to hear more from you of your ongoing experience at any level you would feel moved to share and explore here.

fiz

[Tsandi MAndi]

thanks for the reply, it sheds light onto my opinion of the situation. as for the part you quoted, as i had mentioned i am not refering to tloo or wilcock's work specifically but at the wider scope of history in general. there is, comparative to other cultures on earth, an inconsistency in the amount of information available on early or/and prehistoric black african history.

as most record keeping in african bantu speaking culture is seemingly done orally ,a problem presents itself for historians in the interpretation of data collected due to the inherent principles upon which western methodologies in presenting historical facts are based on. this is not a problem unique to africa but when this is put in the timeframe of the socio-politic climate of the last 50years(more like 500), it is not hard to recognize that african history is a special case. this is due to the lack of a coherent concertic effort into researching this by african historians, but even in todays geopolitical setting it is still not a task that can be objectively undertaken.

taking the above into context i'm basically saying it is harder for the african to relate themselves with tloo/wilcock(or any non african spiritual paths) as much of it deals with prehistoric cultures of which most other peoples have enough external information on which to base their indenty (ethnic,tribal etc..) 'timeline'.i.e. i am from germany based on teutonic tribes who (much) further down the line immigrated from india which has further linkages with sumeria and so on(i might be wrong in my analogy but i hope you see the point).

having said that, i am aware of obscure research being done into south american civilizations of african origin apparently some of which can be traced back 75,000years, but i don't know how much credibility it holds.(imagine the light that can shed on understanding some of the material on early civilization ra and david present....)

i hope this answers your question and i look forward to your correspondence. thank you again for taking the time to reply.

[Chris Hamilton]

i am not refering to tloo or wilcock's work specifically but at the wider scope of history in general. there is, comparative to other cultures on earth, an inconsistency in the amount of information available on early or/and prehistoric black african history.

hi andi,

i think you may be looking for an answer that this group will place it's own unique perspective on, which does filter ideas through the loo and dw's writings. so, you may not get the answers you are expecting :)

anyway, we have had many, many historians with extensive expertise study cultures and religions and how and why we all do these bad, bad, things to each other. sociologists, biologists, psychologists, archaeologists, etc, etc, all pow-wow on why we hurt each other. black, white, asian, indian, we all do these things to each other.

black african history, if you google enough, is beginning to emerge, but we have one basic problem here (and it is my opinion only please remember): the drought in africa has affected everything...if i am not mistaken, the major problems are occuring where water is a bargaining tool. women give up their virginity for it, men die for it for their families, epidemics rage where there is no water, rebel militias are killing and raping to control. and, when you are groveling in the dirt just to live, you don't pay too much attention to the internet or spiritual teaching.

my suggestion to you (and this is only me :) )is that if you want to make a difference with your knowledge, go there and make a difference. set up a safe house for women and kids, or do something that helps bring love (and hope)back to their lives. because with love, we can always do wonders, and then you won't feel powerless either.

they don't need a spiritual education right now, they need people like you to get out there and help them feel whole and safe again.....with lots and lots of love (a loo special). chris

[Art]

this should prove to be an interested thread for all to read and ponder... :rolleyes: very well written, both of you! :d

if i may tsandi mandi,

the only information i could give (and forgive me if you already know this) is that the phenomena of 2012 has been forseen by many cultures, most of which today are all but distant memories, with few survivors passing oral history as you speak. these include:

* african dogon
* egyptian
* central/south american maya (inca, etc. - all of olmec or toltec lineage if memory serves me correct)
* north american "indians" (cherokee, hopi, etc. - which i personally believe to be descendents of the mississippian culture or mound builders...)

some cultural information from india (vedic "timescales") and china (i ching) also have correlations, and there are many more out there.

in the end, each of us has to find our own way. the "snip" of "leads" above represents that many cultures forsee the same thing. i would also dare say that we all can agree upon basic principles, regardless of culture, correct?

fortunately for you, you at least have a link to the list above; in other words, i would suggest trying to contact some tribal elders and shamans - they would be more receptive to speaking with you, than say, a white 29 yr old from the us. in contrast, i live very close to the eastern band of cherokee indians (cherokee, nc), however, again, i don't necessarily have access to "face time", so to speak... but thats ok - i don't necessarily need cultural verification, but its nice to relay the cherokee prophecy of "time untime" to those in my area...

again, forgive me if this is information you already know. i agree, its unfortunate of the lack of information due to cultural genocide over human history, but we're gonna have to do the best with what we've got... in time, we will come to remember more and more as we continue to break down barriers and build a cohesive consciousness complex. part of remembering is "dis-covering", removing the veil.

there are initiatives all over the world, right now, striving for oneness. if memory serves me correct, it only takes the square root of one percent, correct? well, i'm pretty sure at 6 billion that we're well past this amount (7746 correct?), which may be the reason for the rapid spread of the oneness movement, and all its "variants" or "by-products", such as our little group here. however, the point here is cohesion. barriers may be breaking, but they still limit us, because they are still "socially acceptable". there are too many still asleep and those that wish to control them... in the end though, each of us plays our part in this game - the members here are lightworkers, beacons of light. as penny would say, "lighthouses" to those during times of need... there are alot of people that are gonna wake up tomorrow, and the day after...

honestly, i cannot relate to your exact, situation, however, like fiz, i generally only speak of these things to people only on the internet - here with my friends at the dc forum (eventually we won't need keyboards or even words though :d ). in my experiences, it is very difficult to speak with anyone about this information if they are still "asleep", so to speak. i hope you are able to find what you are looking for! :d

humbly yours,
art

[twva]

i want to help my black people understand, to think for themselves but how and where do i start....?

well, you write beautifully, so that's definitely an option...

another, not necessarily contradictory option, would be to become a credentialed scholar of african history and pre-history and work towards bringing the hidden history to light. don't know if you have the patience for all the game-playing an academic career requires, though. (i'm pretty sure that i don't.) but if you do, here's a possible red herring that i sometimes think about: edgar cayce said, i believe, that the nile used to flow into the atlantic. i don't know if he discussed what happened to make it to change its course, but i wonder if there wasn't perhaps warfare involved, maybe the war that sunk atlantis. the sahara just seems too sandy to be naturally caused, and i wonder if anything could be found under all that sand. of course, that may be more north african than you are interested in. i'm sure there are lots of similar subsaharan riddles you could work on.

good luck!

[MarkM]

my issue is the apparent lack of information, historic or otherwise about africa,mainly black africa in the whole scheme of things in general. i am not fingerpointing here, i am simply stating the obvious. if the world we live in is anything to go by, i know the lazy excuses i get from the history books about my people, which only deal with events in the last give or take 1000 years, are peppered with hogwash. more evident is the absolute blank on african prehistory although supposedly we reside in the cradle of the archetype human species.

i am reminded here of the human condition in general, in that we are to all intents and purposes veiled from the recollection of our own past lives, in much the same way that the greater history of the african continent is by and large not available to us.

we are, nevertheless, in our current lives, the sum of all of our lives, from the perspective of the earth's timeline, and the product of all of our experiences combined. in that way we are our past.

i would expect that the history of africa lives on in a very real way in her peoples as a whole, both at home, and throughout the diaspora, at the present time. she is the product of her peoples' (and all other lifeforms) experiences across all of history. as such, her history may not really be lost, only temporarily veiled to our collective conscious memory.

i would also expect that the true history of the indigenous people of the african civilizations may represent the grandest history in history. (or, should i say, 'herstory'!):d

-mark

[MarkM]

the sahara just seems too sandy to be naturally caused, and i wonder if anything could be found under all that sand.
good luck!

in fact, various satellite imaging techniques have indicated extensive evidence of 'cityscapes' beneath the sahara, as well as the kalahari desert, in botswana!

the whole coast of africa is strewn with the ruins of ancient cities, some thought by some scholars to be spectacularly ancient.

in my experience, sometimes just being in the presense of or touching old buildings or their remnants can have a powerful, profound effect.

[IAmSaidI]

hi, tsandi!

i have something to offer here that i hope helps a little.
first, thanks for sharing so openly. your post alone helps place the oft-forgotten continent back into our consciousness.

what i am observing now in the u.s. is that the education system, partially propelled by conscientious educators, is playing “catch-up” in terms of teaching african history.
here, many educators are aware that the “official” history of the world has been primarily gathered and disseminated by europeans. we are still purging old racist and ethnocentric beliefs that caused many to feel that the history of the non-white, non-christian “heathen” was not only unimportant, but should be eliminated.

the other problem has been that, at least here in the u.s., people have tended to see africa as a country, not as a continent full of diverse cultures and languages. (some people still think “african” is spoken in africa.) although this concept is changing, as people realize how huge and diverse africa is, they are simply too lazy to study and understand it.

here is the good news! as black americans are waking up to the realization that the institution of slavery completely robbed us of our cultural heritage, we are beginning to transmute anger over the issue into curiosity about our origins. while some people are researching on their own, there has been a huge explosion in the number of african american studies and african studies classes both in high schools and colleges. more and more anthropology, history, literature, art, and even religious studies classes are teaching various african cultures pre-european contact, and i am convinced more and more young scholars are interested in learning about the people on the continent.
two academic books are particularly important, i believe, and you may have read them: black athena: the afroasiatic roots of classical civilization by martin bernal and europe and the people without history by eric wolf. both acknowledge and attempt to right the lack of attention paid to the various contributions and achievements of indigenous populations, particularly in africa.

i have an interesting story to share about one of my history professors. he is an anglo man who was raised in burundi because his parents were christian missionaries. even in his american history class he was able to incorporate some of his experiences and appreciation for the people and their beliefs. it was obvious to me that he had a bit of guilt about the fundamentalist beliefs his parents had brought to the area and about the kind of ethnocentric cultural “exchange” that went on (not to diminish the positive things some missionaries do). i ended up interviewing him about his time in burundi for a separate class and found he had a non-paternalistic respect for the people he came to know.

all of this is just to say that i understand your frustration but have faith that it is changing. it may be harder to see from where you are because so many countries are preoccupied with survival. and i realize a lot of what i said is meaningless for the populations in africa that don't have access to books and education. but, i have been cross-referencing many sources that indicate that africa will play a major role in positive changes to come. perhaps you are intuiting this and feel the need to get the ball rolling?? it might be a good sign that you are currently feeling lost. that means you are no longer willing to settle for the status quo. don’t get frustrated if you are not yet able to make the sweeping changes you dream about. sometimes the biggest shifts in consciousness occur because of subtle movement (i agree with twva – you are a wonderful writer!).

you have the support of many here! i will continue to send light and love to africa and look forward to hearing more from you.

[jpstephens2012]

tsandi mandi you are very welcome here. i cannot tell you how thrilled i was to read your post. it is an unfortunate thing what has happened to the african culture. because most of the pre-history of the african peoples was passed from generation to generation, much of it has been lost to time. much of the people of africa were tribal peoples and a mostly agrarian society of hunter gatherers. there is nothing wrong with this, in fact, it is a social model that is much closer to god than more industrial/technological societies. unfortunately, christianity came to africa. in their zeal to christianize that land they suppressed all native spiritual beliefs, usually with violence and murder. rituals and dance and music that served to hand down the knowledge from one generation to the next was outlawed and persecuted, and to insure it was upheld the south of the continent was taken over. it's just another of the many ugly stories of the effects of religion. true spirituality would never condone such practices.

i'm more than sure that much of the history lives on there in the minds of the elders and there is probably much archaeological evidence just waiting for someone with the interest to dig up. at the time the atlanteans fled the disaster that sank their continent they fled to egypt and central and south america. from what i understand from related channeled material, they basically ran off the original egyptians who probably migrated south. the problem with channeled material, it that it is highly distorted to the orientation of the channeler. i would suggest you look for african people who are actively channeling and i'm sure there are some. especially those who are not heavily influenced by the church. perhaps you can find one you can work with to discover those hidden truths about your people's history. you can take the material you receive and then have a roadmap to pursue more scientific studies. that is what david wilcock has done here.

the truth is out there. it is up to you to find it. i hope to hear more from your search. the fact that you are here at all warms my heart and proves to me that things are indeed changing. change comes from love, not anger. seek and you will find.

namaste,

james stephens :)

[Tsandi MAndi]

thank you all for the posts, wow! i had not expected.....well, just such a welcoming 'welcome'. it has been a while since i have been to the forum(i had sort o been avoiding it in fear of the responses....sue me,lol.) and have had many changes happen in my life since then. as the universe would have it, a lot of the information i had been looking for found me, and i have managed to find a much calmer spot in my quest for knowledge. i have come to realize that finding my spiritual equilibrium is more important than hastiness to be in the know and that one(spiritual equlibrium) is the precursor for the other(knowledge), anyhow.

i am now rediscovering myself in the law of one and finding out things which i had not....expected. innately, i have always known there was something very out of place with life as offered per the status quo, having always secretly or subconcsiously rebellioned against it. but like most people, in adulthood i got into the rhythm of it. now finding or rediscovering rather, that information that ratifies my innate beliefs put me into another new,weird and wonderful place.

i admit that i found it weird that someof the replies implied difficulty in that i couldn't talk to people close to me about these subjects......probably because the illusion-shattering evidence of truth had not really been unveiled to me in the extent which i now perceive it. the more i uncover the fragility of this ludicrous debacle which holds this socio-economic circus together by sheer ignorance, which as sad as it is i find quite funny....and the more i can make decsisions purely of my own unadulterated free will, guiding me into regions of behaviour and modii of thought quite unfamilliar to me or anyone in my direct real life acquaintance....let's just say that, i get it now.

although alot of change has happened in my life, i now feel as if i am in a cocoon metaphorically speaking. with a personal state of being that feels transitional between places, retaining some habits and characteristics and discovering that i have new ones, well i don't know if new is the word, as it certainly has the qualities of being a new experience but its(again metaphorically) more like finding out you had everything you ever needed stored in your garage and never saw any of it till one day you stumbled right into it.

lol, i still have no idea about what to do and how but i feel like that now also is somewhere in that garage full of everything and in due time i'll get there.

at this point in time, i'm not too concerned with discussing my issues with contemporary african (pre)history as i am happy over the warmth in all your responses and am content to let you all know that i'm doing well. i will be more active in discussion in the coming times.

once again, thank you for the loving and encouraging replies.

peace, love, one.
adonai.

[Michael Donovan]

tsandi,
thank you for your posts. i agree that the world is not up on what is taking place in africa. at least the importance is not focused on here in the united states. myself i click on african news first as i know it to be the most important. there will be a united africa but most likely it will not be the african union. it will come more from the interior. when musevini met george bush his big complaint was that africa was being raped economically, what goes out compared to what they get back is a sliver. “free trade” works against african nations. ‘neocolonialism’ will soon not just be an african intellectual buzz word but a battle cry.
yes. we have written black history and influence out of our cultures. almost every other new england town, (i live in maine), has a street named after the mathematician bowditch. he must have been a complete anal compulsive who drove his wife nuts. he spent years with nothing but pen and paper straightening out the trig tables which where a mess. prior to bowditch celestial navigation was a dangerous approximation. prior to that all navigation came from africa and many of the navigators in our whaling fleets were black. the african system was transferred through the portuguese (starting time of henry the navigator) and called the ‘rutter’. black trained ‘de silva’ was the navigator for sir frances drake. it was a very complex method of classifying everything from cloud color to fish types in a ‘system of twelves’. it was found that some blacks could learn this quickly but it took years. mother told me that on some of the islands off western africa black priests would cull through the boys checking teeth for the right sorts to train. perhaps some connection with dogon. part of alexander hamilton’s lineage came from that black navigation background. therefore there were many wealthy blacks in early america but much of that money was transferred to barbados where it still resides.
the novel 'shogun' was about a white who learned the 'rutter'.
this world is in great need of some radical changes in basic concepts and that is where i find david wilcock’s work so exciting.
there are strong indications that there has been a giant change in geometry which will revamp many of our basic concepts. some of this is being released in bits. you can google <russia and pyramids> and click on anything with the name of alexander golod who is connected to their ministry of defense.
this came over to the united states and there was some banter above the public’s head. seems knowledge of sound may be more and more important and that those with personal abilities in this area the next wave of scientists. we started to look at some of our racial thinking and looked first at an oddity in the music industry. record/cd wholesalers of music such a warner electra or atlantic ‘loan’ the product to the retailer and must take back ‘returns’ that don’t sell. old time salespeople would warn the newcomers, “never rack r&b (black music) in wal marts, they won’t touch it.” this made no sense as the wal marts had a giant black traffic but it was true. blacks would go out of the way to get product from their small stores. even surveys could not explain why. only a small sliver of the blacks knew why. seems that for some music is news. a recording gets old quick because it would be like trying to sell yesterdays newspaper. the problem in wal marts was a slow delivery system !
this made us rethink the entire bias in measuring intelligence. in standard intelligence tests today there are giant racial differences. the yellow race is on top. the white race is in the middle. the black race is on the bottom. why? they went back to the early development of the tests. one of the early tests was a precursor to the army alpha test used to cull troops for world war i. on that test the blacks were scoring significantly higher than whites. but they were getting the most difficult questions right and were unable to explain (in known logic) how they arrived at the answer. are there other forms of logic hidden in sound?
there are three major groups of languages that are considered ‘tonal’ where a sound can have a different meaning in a different tone, chinese, northern sudanese and bantu. there are some minor ones too but none as truly tonal as bantu.
will the next wave of scientists be black? many in the know are beginning to see this. besides david one of the best writers on modern science is susan joy rennison an english woman who lives in norway. she is black. perhaps some day soon we will be looking at what we call ‘soul’ as a more advanced logic. music is now seen as basic to physics. perhaps this other form of logic is a series of chisquare like tests on various 3-d shapes.
the new york times published an article which stated that of all geographic areas in the world the one most dangerous, africa, had the most optimism in the populations. hummmm.
[moderator: paragraph removed as it discusses the politics in africa. as we are a spiritual forum we will pass on that letter. so sorry michael]
michael
<michael1@midcoast.com>

[Michael Donovan]

poem follows.

af tinkanoo gulu go

in the council fires of gulu, are there minds not set to fool you?
do not they see strong minds in saucers?
in strange lights that feel like alters?
in last twilight smoke and haze, does not the falcon’s flight seem crazed?
but they heard more talk from poko, bakavu and luingu.
hear too talk from tabora and kavinda and lisala.
and the old men smoke the old pipes.
and the young men hold new rifles.
look to old men through the smoke haze.

far south in big kampala, by the green lake, in the white house
sits the leader, museveni, in the mirror he gives long gaze.
he sees his hands upon his bald head.
his head shines within the mirror.
and he thinks of the new rebels, for some years ago he was one.
knows he well of their strong longings
knows being stripped of all belongings
knows the fury of machete, and the grenade and the rifle.
knows that yearning will not stifle, for not long ago he was one.

much far north in north uganda, much more north than even gulu
in the reed swamp banks of white nile
kneels the young girl af tinkanoo, by the eddies of rush nile.
her black limbs have seen ten summers
but now they shake and sweat and tremor
in the breeze that move the rushes, af tinkanoo cannot smile.
in her mind are strange short gray men.
at first she thought them mean men.
how took her soul for long night while.
large black eyes that shone and pierced then
seared her soul above the nile.

faces more like hippo leather, more like old lizard from the weather
pinned her to slab by high mind voo doo
move black arms her mind could not do
and she stiffened tight in terror
as more needles came to scare her.
she felt crunch her bone and gristle, heard an eerie high-pitched whistle.
she felt sure that she was dying
but her mind began untying.
she knew somewhere she was but sleeping
but now her wake dream mind was weeping
as visions came for her safe keeping
visions far beyond the nile.

now in sunlight by the waters, in the rustling reeds and high grass
used her mother’s old black see glass
to twist her eyes to see the red mark, the red mark behind her ear.
then her mind in some part dying, then her mind in some part waking
said deep within her baking,
said in sun hot blaze awaking,
said, “af tinkanoo, no more tear.”

feeling mad and sane and stronger, feeling old but much much younger
af tinkanoo slept in sunlight
kept sleeping through the twilight
sleeping most through half the moonlight
and waking far before the dawn.
and she woke with the feeling, younger older saner stronger
tying sandals and bright colors
began her maddened one-one song.

before dawn she fed new fire, by the hut of her strong uncle
cracked grain in gray pot simmered
as new dawn through green leaf glimmered
and she felt the strength of kindred
as she sang her one-one song.
soon she saw the smile of uncle, as he wakened to the cooking
the sweet smell of cracked grain simmered
smile came through beard that he was stroking
as af tinkanoo more fire was stoking
sang uncle, “af tinkanoo, ta ta ta.”

then she insist to follow uncle, even though he frown say, “go back.”
through the grassy path to arms cache
where the men would clean the rifles
arm bandoleers and small grenade packs.
and the men would work and chatter, pass the ammo up the ladder
and blow the bugle, “taaa raaa, ta ta.”

some were chosen for the trip south, and her uncle was among them.
a risky trip to gulu, in a pick-up truck that fit ten
with packs on bumpers, fenders, side steps,
a trek with risk not taken often.
af tinkanoo climbed in truck too, the men laughed for this would not do.
tried to move her, she resisted,
in luggage rack her arms were twisted
til they stopped and looked at uncle
who frowned and slung his rifle
and then sighed, said “she cook for men.”

af tinkanoo sang with motor, and she learned to say “toyota”
in the dust and on the road ruts
with her hands on luggage rack rust
south to gulu she was shook.
noon on second day it took, til driver shouted, “gulu, look!”
and saw the camps were built part circle
round bout gulu in a hook.

but south in big kampala, by the big green lake in white house
sits old leader, museveni, in the mirror he sees blue haze.
he sees gone years in fresh amazement
gazed back years to old encampments
he thinks back bloody fire fights, and the comradeship through nights,
knew he screaming of the wounded
knew he moaning of the dying
knew the time that he was buying
for the children sharing rifles
taught them fury of machete, and black grenade and the rifle.

and the faces came before him, in the blue haze, in the white house
girls and boys who did the fighting, did the killing, did the dying.
and he remembered young girl tinka
what a fighter! what an eyeful !
and he said, “what came of tinka?”
then he remembered. did more sighing.
for tinka turned a woman, and tinka wounded when with child.
with aids sickness and with leg wound
tinka died within the wild.
but he had heard she had a daughter
who was carried down the waters
through streams of rushing laughing waters
to ths safety of white nile.

tinka held her child in sickness, tinka held her child as dying.
as in mud hut she lay lying.
called her brother, “take her, take her.”
her voice a raspy murmur pine.
“oh dear brother, take her, take her,
just let me smell her one more time.”

as the sun set west of gulu, sun lit storm clouds west of gulu
from far west, far west from dungu
dark clouds would not let sun through
the men knew soon rain upon them
and they strengthened tents, retied them.
and the council tent of gulu, re-lashed re-battened for the storm.
round center fire sat beard old men
frowns and murmurs through the feathers
while round and round the wizened elders
white teeth flashing by the embers
white teeth, young rifles stood.

busy women back at cook fires, making sandals from the truck tires
saw sure rain would come upon them
rushed to cover, keep dry, wood.
as the full moon rose with darkness, a deep blood moon aside mars
they sang softly, covered dry wood
as the rain clouds covered stars.
as the rain came af tinkanoo left the women, left the dry wood.
thinking not of rain pour, she left colors, left rain hood.
af tinkanoo can’t keep heart still
in a madness runs to council
walks to old men where she stood.

“one, one, one,” tones af tinkanoo, “one, one, one,” one finger up.
old men pinned in amazement
watch the young girl’s “one, one, one.”
more she steps up closer, up close in firelight flashed her face
but behind then flashed the lighting
lit up her small frame with the striking
as one finger points to space.

“one one one, one all the rivers. one one one, one all the trees
one one one, one all the lions. one one one, one all the leaves.
one one one, are all our rifles.
one one one, are all our men.
a-free-ka is one one one now. a-free-ka is what i am.”
streatched out hand of wise aknanan
from his seat of antelope
wraps af tinkanoo in his red robe
wipes from girl dirt of hard road
wipes the water from black thin arms
thinks dark thoughts of her strong all-arms

down she sits with mortar casings, down she sits with greasy rope.
down she sits with wise aknanan
sits with hard words spoke in hope.

[Gillian Craig]

dear tsandi

my mother was really different in that she gave me an african lawyer, a jewish holocaust survivor and a cofe vicar as godparents - this in the uk in the 1940's was somewhat adventurous. africa was already in my blood - not even my siblings share these "threads". i can only put this down to past life experiences, that my mother intuitively picked my godparents in line with my past lives. i emigrated to south africa in the early 70's but had huge problems dealing with the afrikaaner mindset, especially after knowing my godfather and visiting his family in lagos.

the greatest thing about the publication of metaphysical teachings is that people of the same mindset gravitate to one another regardless of race. if we know there is reincarnation, then race is a costume we don. i know i 've been african, austrian (last life) indian, french, italian etc. by my tendencies and preferences. africa existed in pre-history - the fact that this is not documented in writing is because history was passed down through storytellers (they wore a special topknot) and history relied on the spoken word. you cannot rely on books for historical facts in general as they reflect the views of the writer. so called primitive tribes are far in advance of our culture in that they did not destroy their environment. think about it, you come from an impressive background - and all countries are not immune to warfaring ways - been there, done that!!

we are at a stage now that we have to work at making the world a better place, even in small seemingly insignificant ways. just saying thanks to the driver of the car that stops to let you cross is immensely important. just talking about life from the metaphysical sense, bringing it into the conversation might cause resistance, but what one says, does go in and lodges there to help the process along.

so keep up your self improvement program - this is all that matters. it will interesting to see how ascension modifies the visual racial aspects of our bodies. having experienced the energy that david describes in one of his videos about the time curve and 2012 - i can only say the bliss was so wonderful that it was hard to take and i had to come out of it as it was so beautiful. look forward to the changes.

take care and good luck.

[Tsandi MAndi]

hi everyone, it is an exciting and difficult time in namibia. it's greener than its ever been in a long while due to excellent rains but we're also dealing with some of the worst flooding.....now that i think of it, it has become an abstract thought like the iraq war in terms of human suffering because of our(my) separatist mode of thought further propagated by media, i think i might only be mentioning it because i am now trying to give you a third person perspective on the country...ahh well- greetings, love and light to you all.

i have never been a good planner,well outward planning that is. i am more accustomed to rationalizing a goal mentally and carrying it out....lol many times with varied effects. this is as i am becoming more informed about the differences between the possibility matrix(reality) and the social reality complex this is becoming undesired and i am ready to invest some energy into actually putting a more structured balance into my life. i am so asking as maybe some of you have gone through the same thing and/or have resources known to you which i can be pointed to which could teach me the basics as i feel i'm getting better at understanding quantum reality theories and sacred geometries faster than i am learning to unravel the mysteries and mechanisms of the self.lol

habits, attitudes and values.....(lol, h.a.v. sometimes i think that's africa's real pandemic but another day for that) are three toughest or the areas of myself i'm having the most difficulty in my life with(ha! like they aren't nearly all of life itself!) i'm finding that there's another mind in my mind and i'm not getting the results i want even when i focus for them, getting these reactions from me in situations which i did not plan for at all. there must be a better way than this propensity to strive for betterness constantly ensuing a path of suffering to assure oneself that one is actually doing something to get oneself where one wants to be. aaargghh, lol, its frustrating even though i don't want to be....i have recently been privileged to see bruce lipton's seminars on the biology of perception which very succinctly explain the relationship between our biologies and the quantum universe, i also had the chance to watch rob williams psychology of change which demonstrated a seemingly straightforward way to enact real change in one's life. unfortunately, their extended seminars don't look like they're coming here soon and as i understand it, it is preferential to attend a workshop rather than see the video or read the book which apparently are only supplements.

i am not too well informed of the alternative thinking self help methods, for lack of a better description and if anyone out there can point me in the right direction or any direction at all i'd be very grateful as i'm really trying to get off this merry-go-round.

peace

[Michael Donovan]

skimming through posts there seems to be a giant omission in african culture. the 1860s english invasion of ethiopia wiped out the culture. this invasion was giant. over 215 sailing ships, many elephants and a full railroad with cars and locomotives and over 100 miles of track. i see no reports of barges but do not see how else the elephants and railroad locomotives were transported on sailing ships ?!?! it was a rape of the culture taking all records. what does survive was somehow transferred among jamaicans. (basis of rastafarian movement.) (wikipedia does say rastafarian of ethiopian origin but the rest is horrid – does not give real basis.)
history states that all the holy books were ‘legally transferred’ to england but it seems much either went very underground or were burned. now known some were even lost parts of the bible.
earlier (1798 +?present?) an englishman seemed to have what is now coming out as major ‘prophesy’ in that regard. he gets whacked out on morphine and writes ‘junk’ poetry. and he considered it really junk as he had written such as ‘destiny of nations’. at any rate coleridge had a friend, lord byron, who said, (something to the effect), “no, this is great. save it.”

“...it was an abyssinian maid,
and on her dulcimer she played,
singing of mount abora....”

and

“....and 'mid this tumult kubla heard from far
ancestral voices prophesying war !....”

more have read kubla khan than destiny of nations. it is even taught in high school.
(just not understood.) ethiopia was a giant ‘library’ of religions and spirituality with deep jewish, christian and islamic sects as well as ‘african religion’. what a stretch. the capitol of china, peking, was designed by muslim architects! ethiopia was a deep center of many records.
michael, camden, maine, usa

[Tsandi MAndi]

skimming through posts there seems to be a giant omission in african culture.
“...it was an abyssinian maid,
and on her dulcimer she played,
singing of mount abora....”

and

“....and 'mid this tumult kubla heard from far
ancestral voices prophesying war !....”

more have read kubla khan than destiny of nations. it is even taught in high school.
(just not understood.) ethiopia was a giant ‘library’ of religions and spirituality with deep jewish, christian and islamic sects as well as ‘african religion’. what a stretch. the capitol of china, peking, was designed by muslim architects! ethiopia was a deep center of many records.
michael, camden, maine, usa

wow michael, amazing ur posts have put me onto some great stuff. it's kind of like remembering....

[Michael Donovan]

tsandi,
i have read and reread and reread your wonderful posts with great…., (errrrrrrr the word ‘interest’ seems so weak here…, okay…), with such delight with your warmth and knowledge !

(first important note to moderator: thank you for your assistance in this. because of training – my father taught by best in naval intelligence- i have difficulty separating ‘politics’ from ‘spirituality’. i will separate paragraphs and you may delete as you think best.)

first a few of your words, tsandi;

“…i'm finding that there's another mind in my mind….” 3/6/08 6:41am (quote from
tsandi”

“…wow michael, amazing ur posts have put me onto some great stuff. it's kind of like remembering....” (from post above quote from tsandi)

we are communicating. your, “…it’s kind of like remembering…,” seems oh-so very real ! bantu based i think (know) you are.

bantu has more influence here than most can see. i am speaking of midcoast maine, usa where i live. here there are very few blacks. only one i know of is a chauffer for a very wealthy lady. however the second or third degree of bantu can be seen and heard among the young. this is reflected in the music they listen to and in speech! the music heard is almost always heavy ‘gangst’a rap’. and this is by almost all up until about age 35 or over in their pickup trucks with blond hair and blue eyes! the speech of the young mimics the blacks without many blacks around. black speech is often referred to in the u.s. as ’ebonics’. why is this spreading so? it is because it is better. the biggest thing is the compression (simplification) of syntax. for example blacks will never waste words by saying, “he is bad.” they will either say, “he bad,” or “he be bad.” each with different meaning. “he be bad” means an ongoing condition as in “he will always be bad,” but without the waste of words. this may be followed by an entire strange ‘musical’ paragraph incomprehensible to the older until you realize that the entire paragraph is a very exact adverb or adjective for the first, short sentence. the influence of bantu does not stop even when you change languages. it is still more ‘musical’. but soon we will see that it is also more ‘spiritual’ and more ‘scientific’. but this will not be fully understood until ‘spirituality’ and ‘science’ combine. this seems to be what is happening.

tsandi, you picked up exactly on the ‘abyssinian to china’/ ‘axis’ (vs. ‘allies’) link. there is an expression here among the top. it uses geographic places as concept images. ‘aqaba’ is a concept of a place being un-defendable militarily because (as in lawrence of arabia) the guns are turned one way and cannot be changed. ‘dallas’ represents ‘control by oil’ as in kissinger’s “we control the nations with oil and the people with food.” ‘hadrians wall’ is concept of limit of empire as in the wall through england built by the romans. ‘new bedford’ represents limit of economic power based on sea control as new bedford was center of first, world sea industry- whaling. ‘‘jerusalem’ is an image of the ‘world-heart’, that is to say ‘peace/togetherness’. the expression is: “…aqaba is in dallas. hadrian’s wall is in new bedrord. and the only road back to jerusalem is through gulu….”

the range of your writing is wonderful. you seem to be navigating so many worlds at once, both physical and non-physical. certainly more than i., or even perhaps any on this forum.

michael

(moderator, think above all okay, but you will know better. also, may i pass privately a the copy of the letter to the general to tsandi? he is already familiar, as big news there, with the command acronym. thank you either way.)

[Tsandi MAndi]

i have made those observations about the speech syntax in the english language myself albeit not as in as much detail as you. it is an interesting phenomenon that is occuring among youth world wide in(many cases),spite, of local language. i believe hiphop/rap music carries something obviously incredibly powerful. the same thing can be observed among a large part of white youth and youth in general here in southern africa, some of my strongest indications of the emergent pattern have been in europe also.

that being said it is not too unusual that i resonate with many of your ideas because i am by proffession, a music producer. i run a sound recording studio specialising in advertisement but i am, genre based, of the hiphop category.

[Michael Donovan]

tsandi,
we resonate, as we are opposites in some ways. i too am very interested in music but the interest is ‘visual’ (more from a ‘mapmaker’ perspective). i work in an area of geometry that is new and advancing. the head of the department of astronomy at boston university was asked to look at the designs in crops circles paying no attention as to where they came from. he saw (and proved) that they were rife with the diatonic rations (the ratios of music). i saw the relationship to a geometry i had been working that only works in 3-d and has no lines or points. (writing a book on this).
tsandi, i am tone deaf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so i must use other methods to see into these things.
it is so important for us that you stay connected with this group as we have so much to learn from you.

rap is giant here. they have almost deleted it from radio. so what happens? the white kids pass around cds of rap and ignore radio. the new rap is designed so there are almost all black performers (rare exceptions are such as emenem.) so it is not like the whites copying ‘blues’ or ‘jazz’ or ‘rock & role’ etc. remains black performers and entranced white listeners. only in the future will we understand how powerful this is!!!!!

as i stated there are very few blacks in maine. yet it seems that every single community has a ‘black drumming’ group, lol.

if you have a chance do look at what senegal is doing with education. first all of africa will follow and then the rest of the world.

don’t get the wrong idea that americans know anything about africa. they don’t. i am one of the very few who see the importance. the only guy i seem to be able to talk to about this, (white guy), has deep military connections and understands. i try to explain exactly why africa is turning point in history to my friends and i am mostly misunderstood.

(moderator may delete this paragraph but i hope it broadly philosophical enough. but have no problem if deleted.) bbc today: [please email for url] i found it fearful and reactionary, we are still avoiding a equitable relationship. i am one of the few here that would see it this way! but it is good in that it is a step toward one. and that it must come about. only a question of how.

i do quick scans of news, many links. anything out of equatorial capitals such as quito in sa or kampala in africa i read. i will also read any article related to islands off of africa no matter how seemingly irrelevant as they form sort of holograms, seychelles or sao tome etc.

will be very busy over next few weeks so might not be able to check in with divine cosmos too often or at all. but know i am thinking of you.
michael

[Michael Donovan]

african ‘woodstock’ going on at present !!!!!
holy cow. i strongly believe ‘health’ trumps ‘perversion’ and that ‘spiritual changes’ proceed physical. africa is having their ‘woodstock’. someplace near lake victoria. kids from all countries in africa, from 18 through 20s, mostly musicians, have gathered. all africa, not just sub sahara. from egypt to morocco down through south africa. every country.
good chance that tsandi, being a musician of the right age, is already there. if not. if you are here, tsandi, you must have friends there. would love a report !!!!!!
wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
michael

[Tsandi MAndi]

hello all. i have been discovering the constant of change and how it applies to my and our lives. i had started meditating and have stopped now for two months, not because i don't see its benefits or its 'preferable neccessity' but because i feel there is something that i must come to terms with before truly commiting myself to it. it has been two terrible months filled with family deaths and national crises but also containing self discovery and discovery of like minded individuals......many like minded individuals.

i have lost two dearly loved uncles and national heroes to tradgedies and this sombre trend of funerals doesn't seem to be letting up.....u guys have to understand this is a small country(well in population...we're probably well over a quarter as big as the us in landsize) and these deaths are not only family losses but losses felt by the nation as the recent deaths are the freedom fighters who gave their all to see our independence from apartheid s.a. not two decades ago. through all this pain of loss though, there is a banding together of people who are awakening to truth....it is marvellous being part of this transition in concsiousness. i might not be giving the extent of this awakening justice as the socio-economic dynamics of namibia coupled with its his(her)story are not easy to summarize in terms which will give reader's in the north-western hemisphere a good understanding of it, but darn heck i daresay people are waking up at a rate that.....i don't even know, but i am extremely happy to be part of this.

i do not want to justify being 'political' mr.admin but africa has got socio-economic dynamics which are very, very different than what most of you readers are used to or understand, having stated that, i have to say that keeping myself aware of the world geo-political situation is instrumental in guiding the process of my growth. as you all know, zimbabwe is a very big issue here...but with a very different viewpoint about it than you hear in the western news, mainstream or alternative. it is the only southern african country with well known standing megaliths which, in my view, adds to my conviction that nobody but the guys at the very top (and i don't mean mugabe or tsvangerai) know what's really going on there....it is a heavy issue which is catalyzing a lot of the youth to question the stance africa has on a geo-political scale and subsequently their individual persepectives on things such as our history and our role in the development of modern human concsiousness. i am not endorsing any side of it, least of all the violence, but it is a very african..especially southern african issue.

i do find it strange sometimes that a lot of people here seem to be more aware of the geo-political situation on earth than your average american reporter, and i am not giving geo-politics or any other 'earthly' conviction more credence than the need to discover oneself spiritually on an individual basis but it seems that here, the spiritual awakening and knowledge of history and geo-politics, on which i think many africans are gaining a unique perspective on through technology and our african cultural context, are inextricably linked...at least for the time being. the basic principles observed in tloo, seem already to be part of many cultures across africa(and the world but i am from here) i am discovering for thousands of years before colonialism took place and i believe that coupled with the fact that we are not so entrenched in 'free-market consumerism' as many eastern and western nations will provide for the rise of a remarkedly different perspective on how the healing of our planet and peoples can be engaged.

i am not trying to play a 'special' card but i think one must admit that africa is...different, and as linked we are to the rest of the world through our collective humanity there are many issues still played out in the old geo-socio-econo-politcal stage which because of our culture is one that sets it apart from the world in some aspects just as surely as japan's issues differ from germany's.

i am very excited to be part of whatever it is that is happening because my intution tells me that, ultimately, it is good. i extend an offer of conversation to anyone with interest to discuss the changes taking place here. esoterism and real world issue are so intertwined in everday african life, it took me a good while just to notice it...i am very excited!