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Jzerres
10-17-2007, 09:31 AM
hi, i understand and most here do, that our bodies run on a certain frequency. not only our bodies, but also everything, our planet, solar system, ect. some scientist in the past have discovered the frequency we run at. now knowing the optimal frequency we as humans run at, then can we increase or even decrease these frequencies that are us. in my study i have found that we are all energy. like in the holy bible, god takes a prophet to a mountain and the earth quakes. he tells the prophet that he is not the quake but is in the quake. then he rains fire and says i am not the fire not i am in the fire. so this conclusion tells me god is energy. like us we vibrate at different frequencies. now my study with quartz crystals has me believe that they too give off a vibration/frequency. how can one alter or change the frequency of these crystals to induce or enhance your frequency. this i have been wondering and have tried some experiments in laser introduction into different types of crystals. since i have a very old oscilloscope and no real frequency counter my experiments have been slow in coming to a conclusion. my most amazing discovery for me was the glow of a certain crystal. moonstone seemed to dance inside as i introduced the light from the jasper laser into it. [moderator deleted a site that sells crystals]the green laser i am using is the most you can get without a permit. now my readings from the output of the crystal have been ok, usually around 20 hz. i maybe have to cut the stone to get more of a change; i am working on that. i also have been working on getting electricity out of the ground and air. i am studying my hero tesla. whatever finding that come to pass i will post on my progress. but you have to understand that life and my personnel energy to work on these progresses are going to be slow, as i have many distractions during my day. anyone who could shine some light on these finding would be more than welcome. now, as you must know by now that color and light have there own frequencies. this must be looked at to heal people. sound, color and light. vibration, we and the solar system have. i read in the zohar (kabbalah) that the world was made by sound. sound is again a frequency. when you play pleasant music to your ears the frequency you hear from the sound makes you feel great. this is a healing frequency to you. if one can measure the vibration/frequency then one can use this to feel better. imagine having a bad day. you hook your self up to this frequency to calm you. this is one way. i can imagine other ways as you can too. light giving off this same frequency may have the same effect. light, sound, and color.

in the spirit
joe

Lorigga
10-17-2007, 01:37 PM
fascinating experiments!

here's something semi-related, x-ray crystallography:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/x-ray_crystallography
basically, by examining the pattern created by light reflected off the crystal scientists can determine the crystal's composition, or the specific arrangement of atoms within.

now i'm curious about this frequency you're describing. it seems you're looking at how the lights wavelength alters when passed through a crystal, is that it?

what physical values you're actually measuring? resistivity? temperature? whats the frequency of light you're shining in the crystal? how are you measuring the frequency of the light radiating from the crystal?

based on your description it seems you're examining how light of a specific frequency (emitted from the laser) scatters within the crystal. i'd imagine the glowing or light you see reflect out of the crystal will be the result of interference created via photons hitting the atoms within the crystal.

what are your objectives for this specific expermiment? you mentioned a 20hz output, are you trying to amplify the signal?

i also think when discussing vibrations it's important to remember that they're a very abstract general mathematical principle with numerous applications. for example, sound vibrations are air fluctuations whereas light vibrations are an electromagnetic interaction. we as humans experience both in very different ways. what i'm getting at is that, yes, we are all indeed vibrations but to discuss the very reality we exist in and how they affect us, distinctions must be made as to the medium or manifestation of said vibrations. i think you're totally right, i just feel it's good to be specific.

david discusses sacred geometry in his shift of the ages book. there he postulates geometry as being a sort of 3d wave (which is pretty accurate). he then describes how these 3d waves create the very reality we exist in:
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&itemid=36

anyone contemplating frequencies, etc, will get a lot from his book.

also, light therapy is a pretty new field. perhaps with wiki will help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/light_therapy

i'm sure there's plenty to figure out here, if you can get access to any books or articles on the subject i'm sure it'll go a long way!

if i were in your position that's where i would look for answers as there may be data/interpretations to help you further your research. i know this is actually being studied by academics and medical practitioners and i'm sure they'll give good insight.

Jzerres
10-18-2007, 06:44 AM
what i was and still am trying to achive was healing through vibrations(frequencies) and sound and color. if the ouput measured in ac voltage, like i got with a sign wave of 50hz then this too can be used to generate power by triple multiplication. but that is not my objective, as all living things gives off power like leaves from a plant. my experiments are to benifit anyone who can use this to heal or to rejuvenate. imagine going into a state of out of body just by plugging your self in. or heal the wound by plugging yourself in. i was using a jasper laser, which is the most power you can get with out a permit. i chose the green color of the laser as it is brighter than the rest in light spectrum. i have not read david's books as i am poor as it is. i did listen to his videos posted and find them fasinating. my mind tells me things that i must try as i must do this or that. its quite a drain. not having direction unto why am i the one with this knowledge in my head and to what does this effect have on my family life. i know tesla did not have all the interuptions as i. so i must prod along till i get the information on a material level, producing an end product. i am lucky enough to get free stuff people throw away in the trash, as i have a connection with my sanitation company here where i live. he does save electronics that are thrown away so i can use the parts from them. the crystal compensation has allot to do with what sound,frequency,color or voltage has. i have a crystal chart that explains the useful properties as to the holder of them. i have used these myself in order to align myself. so if this property was enhanced in some way, hence charging the crystal with laser light, then the end result would be more powerful. now i have read edgar cayces books since i was young and came to see that atlantis was indeed real and used crystals for about every useful purpose. this technology if you call it that is quite natural. like tesla found, it is all around us to harness. just how we go about it is another story.

Lorigga
10-19-2007, 11:44 AM
very interesting, first off, david's books like the one i referenced to earlier are all free and online. he's put a lot of work into them and they'll go a long way!

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&itemid=30
-these are his free books and articles.

actually, light healing is really breaking ground. for example, i know an engineer at a company which produces a light box used by doctors to administer light therapy. i can only give that description. from what i know, they use a low intensity light to shine various wavelengths into specific points on the body. to achieve wavelengths in the full visible spectrum they use rotating light filter.

funny enough, different colors (wavelengths) and different points affect different people in different ways. everyones unique. these people are using light therapy to help with wounds, etc...which seems different from your objectives. i think the most important thing is the wavelength and not the intensity.

for an obe or alpha/beta brain wave induction, i'm not sure what one would do. what i do know is that in these light therapies they don't use lasers...or if they do they're very low intensity lasers. that's why i mention looking online for info about this, because i know there's got to be a good free body of knowledge out there to help you direct your experiment for your desired objectives. perhaps using a low intensity polarized light with a lot of resolution would help (i guess that would be a low intensity laser...)? is your laser low intensity? my laser knowledge is not the best...

crystals are very powerful (as you noted), scientists often use them to amplify lasers and as you've mentioned there's a lot of discussion about them in spiritual teachings...perhaps you're on to something by combining the two...light therapy and crystal therapy.

i wish i knew more about crystals from a holistic perspective...all i know is from a physics perspective...which doesn't tell you much as far as our spiritual interactions with them. on a fundamental level each crystal's composition dictates it's physical properties. what differentiates one crystal from another (or matter all together) is the orderd arrangement of their specific atomic compositions. due to force interactions, any given unique composition will arrange itself into a particular geometric pattern. david discusses how everything from the micro tot he macro of the universe can be broken down into sacred geometry, which really corresponds to 3d waves. perhaps the particular geometric arrangement of atoms for each particular crystal corresponds to a particular frequency which in turn affects people in a particular way? perhaps there's a relation between a persons own unique spiritual frequency and that of the geometry of the crystal. just a thought....

crystals really lend themselves to this kind of thing because they're so ordered and have a relatively low number of atomic deficiencies. they really do represent the physical manifestation of geometry in the material plane.

i'll definitely look more into this...i'm a bit busy right now. as i investigate these matters further i'll pass along any info.

have you done much research as to how this particular crystal/light combo will affect a person? do you plan on actually shining the signal on a particular region or area of the body? perhaps just being around the light, on the fringe? sounds like you've got a nice little setup going...just wondering how you're planning on taking this setup and applying it for it's intended purpose.

i really do wish you the best of luck on this as i can totally relate to wanting to use some of our fancy scientific tools to investigate the material we read.

best,
lorenzo

Jzerres
10-20-2007, 06:44 AM
my aim is free healing at little or no cost. while funding like yours is important to your livelyhood , i on the other hand have to do with what is given to me. must be nice to take a piece of equiptment out of the lab and use it to further your research. while i was formaer broadcast engineer [specific company name deleted] i had the equiptment needed. now i have to wait for business to go out of business to have a real chance at getting so said equiptment. or by luck use what i know to figure out what i need to measure and measure it in the old style way. mathmaticial formulas and having engineering books all around do help in following an equation. but life as me is very tied down to daily life. wash clothes, make beds, make lunches, take care of things in gerneral. pray that i have enough patients to follow through.