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Paul Kandrah
02-17-2003, 10:18 PM
i was wondering if anybody knows how to explain these
facinating "sea urchine" shapes made by applying a magnetic field
(electromagnet) to a magnetic fluid.

http://members.tripod.com/vismath2/takeno/

the number of spikes corresponds to the field intensity (fig 1 &
fig 2). the result has a geometric/numeric feel to it. it is
almost as if the lines of magnetic force we learned about in school
are in fact distinct 'entities', each indicated by a single spike,
and not merely 'representations' of a constant flux. i wonder if
fig 2 shows a raised structure because of a flux distribution of
magnetic force or because of the movement of fluid along distinct
lines of force that cause fluid particles adjacent to move upwards
due to surface tension.

is there a possible connection of distinct lines of magnetic force
to sacred geometry?

paul

Paul Kandrah
02-17-2003, 11:50 PM
> is there a possible connection of distinct lines of magnetic force
> to sacred geometry?

thinking out loud based on what i have read so far in david's
books. (unfortunately it doesn't stop while i wait.)

in david w.'s first book (chapter 03: harmonic pyramids on earth and
abroad) he states:

"dr. hans jenny (pronounced "yenny") has shown that when a spherical
area of fluid is vibrated at pure "diatonic" sound frequencies, i.e.
the basic vibrations of the octave, then geometric forms emerge
inside the fluid. tiny particles that jenny put in the fluid known
as `colloids' would assemble into basic geometric forms during the
experiment, leaving clear water in between ? where normally the
particles would be suspended all throughout the water equally. if
dr. jenny turned up the sound frequency to a higher level, then more
complex geometric structures would appear, and when he turned it
back down to the original level, the exact same geometry that he
started with would be seen once again in the same way."

...

these colloid lines are explained later to be the shortest
distance 'between' the nodes of sacred geometry that end up on the
surface of a sphere according to different perfect sound vibrations
(notes of the octave). that is, the nodes themselves define the
straight line locations.

could the same thing be happening here, with the magnets? that is,
the spikes would correspond to distinct "colloid lines" moving
through the shortest distance between the two poles set up by the
magnet.

if i follow this logic a little, i first notice some distinct
differences. first the lines are curved around the outside, and
second, there are probably no distinct dual node locations,
especially in an electromagnets such as a solenoid. the second is
an initial speculation.

in a solenoid there are no poles really because the magnetic fields
travel continuously into the center of the coils of wire. this
interior magnetic field is utilized by rail guns for instance. but
even rail guns can only use one half of the solenoid length for
projectile acceleration because at the very center of the solenoid
the poles switch directions. it would seem then that the center of
the solenoid is the zero point then - a point of discontinuity or
stillness/equilibrium - which might correspond to the nodes
described by the colloid experiment.

in jenny's sphere there is more than one node present, therefore
straight lines can be seen between them. in a solenoid there is
only one node present (it seems), so it can only form lines of
communion with itself - the long way around. since these lines
would be pushing outward in either direction from the center of the
solenoid, and since those lines must move around the wire structure
of the solenoid (which have a combined effect to create the zero-
point itself) you would get the curved paths that we see around a
typical electromagnet.

but, and this is a big but, we see more than one line of force.
they are distinct and the number of them correspond to the strength
of the magnetic field.

could this magnetic field strength be synonymous with the diatomic
frequencies that created different numbers of nodes in jenny's
experiments?

if this is the case, then we may be able to say that there is not
just a single zero point node in the middle of an electromagnet, but
actually a number of them. in fact, there would be a node that
corresponds to each spike that we see in the experiment. as the
electromagnetic force/ current in wire changes, the number of nodes
changes. would the number of spikes protruding from the
electromagnet be an indication of the frequency in a similar way
that the number of nodes in jenny's experiment changed with sound
frequency?

it does seem to suggest that the electromagnetic strength, which
comes from the movement of electrons in wires, is a manifestation of
frequency in some way. but this is most likely dc current (very
good assumption though not stated explicitly on website). curious.

my logic ends at this point for i cannot finish the connection.
what is this "frequency" that seems to create multiple nodal zero
points in an electromagnet? the amount of current in a wire i would
think would correspond to amplitude. and yet the number of distinct
lines of force seems to change in a way similar to jenny's
experiment, which may indicate a connection to sacred geometry, and
the way we are supposed to be able to move through densities.

i sense there may be a greater connection here. i hope you don't
mind my thinking/speculation. i am new to this and only working
with the knowledge i have seen thus far. pieces of the puzzle are
still missing.

paul kandrah


ps. besides the connection to frequency, the nodal points inside a
solenoid also must be different from each other in a way, or else
those nodal points would interact with each other, it seems. or the
lines of force themselves might interact, or repel, each other...
(???)

bobmail
02-18-2003, 04:52 AM
hi paul.
my name is bob and i'm new to this group.
this is a laymans answer, and strictly my personal,intuitive vieuw, and open
to correction.
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eather and everything deriving from it consists off little spheres of
varying sizes.
there is the male(electro) energy that runs from the centre of the sphere to
the centre of an other spere
then there is the female(magnetic) energy that runs along/determines the
outer definition of the sphere(at a phi ratio to the male energy)
male and female energy "meet" where male energy reaches the periphery of the
sphere(on it's way to the centre of the spere that it aims to connect to)
at the periphery it meets with the female energy that naturally resides
there.
that meetingpoint is, as i understand it, the "zero point" where there is a
reuniting of the divided energy back into harmony/oneness(electro/magnetic)
that zeropoint is thus potentially, at any or every possible point along the
periphery of the sphere since there is an infinite amount of directions that
male energy can take.
frequency(= intention?) seems to determine the direction male energy takes,
thus forming the geometric patterns that we are/consist of and/or are able
to relate to.

pfow
02-24-2003, 10:12 PM
hello paul,
imagine if you could apply these electromagnetic principles, using sound and
crystal...a radio frequency....levitation?
:-)
with kind regards,
susan