Meeting people during these changing times

[Mikazo]

i live in colorado and am fairly young, and spent a good part of the last three years wandering and trying to find myself. i've explored a lot of alternative healing, david's site, other sites, and so on. what surprises me is how infrequently i actually run into other people with whom i share any sort of spiritual connection. it seems like people are either much older than me, much younger, or completely uninterested. i even go to college and most people there are uninterested in meeting people, being more concerned with their studies. i would think this is a time for soul mates and soul groups to be coming together - apparently this is not the case?

i was on lisa renee's radio show one time, and she said to me, "you know i'm getting that there's almost nobody in your age group where you live." she was right - aside from one friend i have from high school (who is my age) and an acupuncturist (who is much older), i really don't know anybody here. and i've lived here for more than ten years! however, when i went to germany i met some bright souls in the youth hostel with whom i felt a fairly strong connection with, even though i only saw them for a day and even though we discussed worldly things instead of spiritual things.

i'm curious to know if this isn't my own fault (i.e. i don't get out enough to meet people) or if it's a social problem among young people in general, or if divine timing just isn't working that way, as the universe wants me sequestered for some reason. maybe isolation is part of an overall ego-dismantling process? i'm also wondering if anyone else is feeling that way, asking themselves, "i'm smart and attractive. where is everyone?" where have your paths taken you in terms of meeting people?

[FooSnik]

\i'm curious to know if this isn't my own fault (i.e. i don't get out enough to meet people) or if it's a social problem among young people in general, or if divine timing just isn't working that way, as the universe wants me sequestered for some reason. maybe isolation is part of an overall ego-dismantling process? i'm also wondering if anyone else is feeling that way, asking themselves, "i'm smart and attractive. where is everyone?" where have your paths taken you in terms of meeting people?

well... i don't think it is your fault for sure. but i think you are a very affluent guy who needs to live in a place that is as affluent as you. meaning having the same level of sophistication. in my experiences traveling i find that different areas have big differences in the levels of depth of people that live there.

and there are parts of europe that are just as thick skulled as here so don't buy into this bit that europeans are smarter than americans.

such as i found every city has its own personality and you need to find the one that matches you. i have lived in san fran, philly, pittsburgh, dc, baltimore, new york, fort lauderdale, plus other travels through america and europe.

and each one of these places on earth has its own character and personality just like ppl do.

so i say travel and find where you feel like it works for you.

new york has been so fascinating for me to meet the most interesting people i have ever met. but at the same time is is a challenging city to live in.

and a side note... i found that sf and ny are like opposites. both of them are awesome but could not be more different. ny is like the agressive male and sf is like the gentle female.

so that is my two cents.

[11wanderer11]

i live in colorado and am fairly young, and spent a good part of the last three years wandering and trying to find myself. i've explored a lot of alternative healing, david's site, other sites, and so on. what surprises me is how infrequently i actually run into other people with whom i share any sort of spiritual connection. it seems like people are either much older than me, much younger, or completely uninterested. i even go to college and most people there are uninterested in meeting people, being more concerned with their studies. i would think this is a time for soul mates and soul groups to be coming together - apparently this is not the case?

i'm curious to know if this isn't my own fault (i.e. i don't get out enough to meet people) or if it's a social problem among young people in general, or if divine timing just isn't working that way, as the universe wants me sequestered for some reason. maybe isolation is part of an overall ego-dismantling process? i'm also wondering if anyone else is feeling that way, asking themselves, "i'm smart and attractive. where is everyone?" where have your paths taken you in terms of meeting people?

just wanted to say i feel the same way and i've been pondering this for a while now. the last 5 years or so especially i've been doing a lot of wandering, searching, studying, etc. and in that same time period i have been without a girlfriend. i have tried to find a girl and it's extremely difficult, in my opinion, because of the tremendous odds against it. to find a mate that not only attracts you phsyically but mentally, and after raising your mental knowledge & awareness to such higher heights than average. fate has to allign us two souls together at just the right time & even then there must be that initial spark & pleasant conversation to make it to even exchanging numbers or whatever. there doesn't seem to be any particular place for meeting intelligent, attractive, & spiritual people either. and i live in austin too, which is considered to be pretty progressive & accepting. i know that there are girls out there for me, but i just don't know where to find them. i try not to let it get me down though with that same perspective that it's so rare, if it's meant to happen then it'll happen.

[Mikazo]

hi there, thanks for sharing your views. i'm sorry to hear about your trouble finding a partner.

david was mentioning in one of his blogs a while back about how strained relationships between males and females are today. it's possible that because women are coming into their power today, coupled with modern social pressures, they are very confused about what they really want. men and women who reach a particular point in their maturity tend to do better, but for young people it is very hard. then you are dealing with a spiritual awakening process which most people don't really know is going on, and finding someone who would be receptive to that would be very challenging. i can only think that things may get better in time and other doors will open later on.


just wanted to say i feel the same way and i've been pondering this for a while now. the last 5 years or so especially i've been doing a lot of wandering, searching, studying, etc. and in that same time period i have been without a girlfriend. i have tried to find a girl and it's extremely difficult, in my opinion, because of the tremendous odds against it. to find a mate that not only attracts you phsyically but mentally, and after raising your mental knowledge & awareness to such higher heights than average. fate has to allign us two souls together at just the right time & even then there must be that initial spark & pleasant conversation to make it to even exchanging numbers or whatever. there doesn't seem to be any particular place for meeting intelligent, attractive, & spiritual people either. and i live in austin too, which is considered to be pretty progressive & accepting. i know that there are girls out there for me, but i just don't know where to find them. i try not to let it get me down though with that same perspective that it's so rare, if it's meant to happen then it'll happen.

[johnasmodeus]

seriously.
come to japan.

*warning: staying for too long may cause irreparable damage to career. proceed with caution and have an exit plan.

[PriestOfLight]

in my area of nj we have a bunch of new age stores where we all meet to connect with like minded people. we have a wide range of ages show up and i have been surprised to see high school students in the shaminism classes as well as the herbalism teachings.

i have also seen alot of monthly fairs were reiki there will be alot of new age and spiritually like minded people.


love and light

paul

[Cantheist]

wow, that post rings very true for me. i have somewhat retreated into isolation as well, focusing on my self-education for about two and a half years now. i find the majority of people locked into the "ignorance is bliss mentality", where they want to ignore anything outside the control system. even people who are somewhat receptive to the information i'm sharing with them, don't really want to do anything with it. they just want to continue their normal existence.

"as the universe wants me sequestered for some reason."

this most definitely is a feeling that i identify with. serious introspection is a process every human should go through, but the nature of our experiences differ from what a normal person contemplates. essentially, we are expanding our consciousness as preparation for the 2012 evolution. there will be people acting as obstructions on our path, who just don't get it. they don't see past the physical and don't care for what lies there. we can try our best to bring as many people with us, but the fact remains, that some people just want to bel left behind.

peace and blessings

[Matthew Clark]

hi mikaza,

nice post!


i even go to college and most people there are uninterested in meeting people, being more concerned with their studies.

most sheeple are not aware there is even a world out there let alone something else going on in it. i think it would be wise to remember that these sheeple (and boy there are a lot of them) are in total ignorance of reality. understandably it is not their fault, rather, just another typical example of modern living.


or if it's a social problem among young people in general

i think you have hit the nail on the head so to speak. i work on a busy high street and it is quite freaky to see the number of young people walking along with their headphones on, oblivious to anything else. they look like robots with a complete vacant expression on their faces.
without getting too deep, i see the problem as a manufactured social experiment that worked!:rolleyes: look at the quality and content of many films over the years which have come out of hellywood. also couple that to the modern culture of pop music with all its subliminal mind programming messages and ooh la la - you got yourself a bunch of dumbed down humanoids and a never ending supply of them at that!

my advice to you my friend is to not get too hung up on the subject of meeting people. i do not know if you read back to yourself what you have written but let me tell you how you come across to me. you are obviously a highly intelligent, switched on and likeable person. just remember where you are now is not where you may be in 1 years time for instance. my guess is you will probably up sticks at some point and find the place which will give you a stronger sense of fulfillment which, in turn, will allow your spiritual persona to flourish and mature. it sounds like you are slightly unhappy with the fact that you are not connecting with like-minded spiritual folk.(?) well arnt we all!;)

please above all else, do not lose faith in your spirituality. things in your life will happen and change will come, when the time is right. for now keep at it and try and get going with conversations with your college friends. may i wish you peace of mind and contentment for your journey.

11wanderer11 - i hope you find miss right soon. often you know the best time to find something is when you are not looking! i have many friends who have found great relationships after they have given up the search. in other words, it will happen when you least expect it. good luck to you though.

may true love and light fill all of your hearts and last an eternity.

matt

[HardKnockSoldi3r]

i've been in isolation as well. not only because i grew up in a "cage", but because everyone is "sleeping." all the things im now interested in learning are being studied by older people. have you watched 2012 enigma? i dont think i saw a person under 30 in the room.

the more you change, the people, places and things will change as well i.e. going to bars and clubs isnt the right place to find someone spiritually developed! try the book store. try not to talk to girls while there working, unless they're obviously focused on you.

it surprised me to find out that some of the bright and popular kids i knew from high school were doing drugs and drinking as if they always had. my brother is quite intelligent and has adhd, so i can talk to him about science or an idea all day, even though he's a skeptic type. he's smart, but unaware. stay away from the superficial, and the egotystical. you can't find this out by the car that they drive, though, so to speak.

imagine you didnt know who david was (and he was your age), and you bumped into him looking at a ufo book or esp or w/e. (knowing that he's open minded) he will most likely spark a conversation with you about ufo's, and the dominos start fallin. there are people searching for you, just like your searching for them.

if you dont know what your looking for, you won't find anything.

my issue is unresolved karma and/or the need to be neglected growing up to learn my path, but i'm not sure if that was entirely necessary!:( good luck on your search! i'm hopefully going to toronto for davids event, so if your going, ill see you there!

[corie blunt]

its the law of attraction. what you put out is what you attract. speak about these esoteric teachings to your friends who might not know about them.. speak about it in right mind and give them right practial information and then you will have the universe bring more of the like minded people back to you.

i just recently started finding like minded people my age who are into spritual and esoteric knowledge. but i also went about and created it for myself by talking to my friends who werent in the know about it and informed them. then through one of them i met my friend who i know is in my soul group and we both knew it from the first time we met. then a few weeks later i reconnect with another who i have grew up with (elementary school and everything) and unknowlingly to me she had been into this type of info all of her life and i also know shes in my soul group.

a key is removing your own personal block so that you can let you energy flow and self change to become more. not letting past emotions and mental patters.. even physical diseases keep you from that. transcend yourself!:d

and dont let age be a blinder to yourself.. its a number and your soul is infinte

my earth number is 24

[Matthew Clark]

hi hardknock,

i enjoyed your post and wanted to say thank you for it.


i've been in isolation as well. not only because i grew up in a "cage", but because everyone is "sleeping." all the things im now interested in learning are being studied by older people. have you watched 2012 enigma? i dont think i saw a person under 30 in the room.

i love the way you mention growing up in a cage - brilliant!
as for everyone in the audience of the 2012 enigma being over 30, well it was not all that long ago that if something like that was shown, say perhaps in the 70's, you would have noticed that nobody would have been in the audience under 60! ;) progress is indeed being made and as i am 42, though feel like i am 18, over 30 is not that bad!!

the main thing is that people are beginning to awaken and as you are obviously young - i.e well under the age of 30(?) - count yourself as one of the lucky ones who have found the truth and have embraced it.
one thing i can assure you is that there are many young people who are finding enlightenment. i was watching a programme on the controversial channel (here in the uk) last night and they had a young guy in his teens on, who was telling all of his peers about what is really going on in the world. he had quite an audience i can tell you.


the more you change, the people, places and things will change as well i.e. going to bars and clubs isnt the right place to find someone spiritually developed!

well put mate! if i am correct in my assumption that you are young - then you are indeed an old soul!


stay away from the superficial, and the egotystical. you can't find this out by the car that they drive, though, so to speak.

yep an old soul with wise words!


my issue is unresolved karma and/or the need to be neglected growing up to learn my path, but i'm not sure if that was entirely necessary!

not too sure what you mean by this remark, perhaps you could elaborate?

there are many people who feel at a loss just now, particularly as we approach 2012. whether it be a yearning for a relationship, a friendly ear or even something as simple as needing a friend who is spiritual in their nature.

we are all looking for definitive answers to our own questions but at the end of the day just trust in the knowledge they will all be answered - soon.

love and light to you all,

matt

[meganarline]

i'm hopefully going to toronto for davids event, so if your going, ill see you there!

that's exactly what i was going to suggest. go to one of david's or a similar spiritually themed conference that sparks your interest. you'll meet lots of people! i know i did. of course they don't all live in my area but we do keep in touch and it's great.

megan

[Mikazo]

i wanted to thank everybody for their contribution to this post. it seems that a lot of people are dealing with this sort of scenario right now as they're "in-between" realities right now.

personally i'm finding it helpful to keep a broad base of interests. when turning onto spiritual subjects, it's easy to *only* be interested in spirituality and try to make your friendships about spirituality, and then before long you're trying to convert everybody around you that you meet! i feel that spirituality can be balanced with other interests, and if you don't meet 'spiritual' friends you can form good friendships with people on other levels while still setting an example. i have an interest in foreign languages for instance, and can always meet people with whom i can practice this with, which (who knows) in itself may lead to other, deeper topics of interest.

i'm only bringing this up because i think it's very easy, once on the spiritual path, to reject people who are not spiritual. the truth is you really can't judge a book by its cover and a lot of people may in fact be quite spiritual, although they don't adhere to a particular system.

[FooSnik]

[note to mods: i am not sure where to put this so wherever you think is best then i am happy. i just really want to get this one off my chest.]

i feel like everyone is using this 2012 as a way to stay pacified and say, "well i don't have to actively do anything because when this ascension thing happens we will all be zipped away to lala land."

and i don't think that is it at all. i am in the camp that believes it is all about right now. and actively show in your own way that people are cared about, loved and respected. and try to lighten up some of this.

so lets rally around each other and do this thing now and not wait. i mean, this is probably what the illuminati/nwo families want us to do. think of how much more fear and control they could install if we just sit back and wait for an ascension theory in 2012.

i play a online game called world of warcraft sometimes and this one kid pm'd me and he said he was depressed and sucidal. so i spent a while talking to him and seeing where and how he can get some help. and told him if he ever needs to chat with me then i will. and it really made him feel better. but not only did it make him feel better but it made me feel better. i felt so good about myself that i tried to help and i felt the love. i have been feeling kind of isolated and alone too lately. so i felt like this was the answer. reach out.

who is with me on this one?

and also thank you to dw and all the mods here at divinecosmos for creating this space where we can all talk about this stuff.

[Truth180]

[note to mods: i am not sure where to put this so wherever you think is best then i am happy. i just really want to get this one off my chest.]


so lets rally around each other and do this thing now and not wait. i mean, this is probably what the illuminati/nwo families want us to do. think of how much more fear and control they could install if we just sit back and wait for an ascension theory in 2012.


the wait is the worst i think and getting me down in the dumps and you are so right its about now not tommorrow or the next day. its about each moment.

[islandgirl]

hi everyone,

i was just thinking about how i have changed my life completely over the last 5 years and how all that came about. 5 years ago i did not have one person i could talk to about spiritual matters and did not like my living situation one bit.....where i lived or who i lived with (husband). i had let myself become controlled and was not living my own life. i also finally let go of the boundaries society puts on us to stay married when it's just not working no matter how hard you try.

instead of going into depression after too many years of this i decided to do something about it. i prayed alot and started meditating and just asked god for one thing: that the right circumstances would present themselves every day so i could help others and be of service right where i was at the moment.

i happened to be a grocery store checker and boy the syncronicities that presented themselves after that were nothing short of amazing. it's like folks felt my love and knew i cared, but i was never overly serious . just gave food for thought and encouragement and some laughs to those that needed it and the most amazing conversations would ensue at the checkout line !

i started to feel so good at the end of each day about those i had made feel better i didn't care so much about my lousey personal situation. i made folks laugh alot and feel better about themselves and it was easy. always tried to be that way before, but know it was a real conscious thing.....like a mission god had given me........and i liked it alot . people would come in and tell me almost every day how i had made their day or helped them solve a problem etc. ok, so now i was feeling fulfilled and was smiling more and feeling almost giddy going to work in a crappy, low paying job in a unbelievably hot store at that !

then as i was noticing that i actually manifested this at work and so i began to think really big.......that i could get away from an extremely controlling and now increasingly scary husband. without much money at all i wanted to move to a more peaceful, loving and more beautiful environment. i would have dreams of what i wanted and was finally visited by my 'dead' brother who took me by the hand to show me the happy life that was just around the corner so i would be encouraged that i could make it happen. it was one of those dreams that was real, very real......i woke up in tears of joy, literally.

so in the end i moved, after asking my mom if she was ready to live with me and move 1200 miles away to an island neither one of us had ever seen but it sure looked good in the research i did online, although quite expensive to live there. mom's a brave soul and has always believed in me so she said sure, let's do it. a plan was hatched and we pulled it off and no amount of manuevering from my soon to be ex-husband could stop us (and boy howdy, did he try-i could write a book about that). i knew if i kept my mom close by he would not be so bold as to physically stop me with violence. i stunned him by moving my plan along very quickly and sure enough it worked out.

so mom and i arrived not knowing anyone at all but i did have a dream and it was to own a horse to trail ride and to be happy and surrounded by loving friends....in short to live a joyous life again.

i took one job after another, each better pay and better circumstances all found through networking and doing a stellar job no matter how mundane ...and folks do notice that quality. so within 1 yr of arriving i found myself making a darn good living cleaning houses for wealthy island folks and loving it. actually i made more money than i dreamed i ever could. i saved for a horse and found the perfect mare and we go riding almost every day in the most glorious old growth forest here you can imagine........just heaven on earth. i have 3 good girlfriends that i can discuss, in depth, the ascention and what is going on with our universe and all about soul growth, etc. i have 5 other good girlfriends that i go riding with too and we laugh and sing and have a ball trail riding.

i don't want a close dating type of relationship anymore, just too complicated for me at this stage in my life......been there, done that ! i just keep it simple and live in the moment completely, except for my now sporatic cleaning jobs.......i'm semi-retired now!!

a year ago i was asked to be a ranch caretaker for the horses here where i now live (same island) for a wonderful family and they provide mom and i with a beautiful guest house, gorgeous barn and pastures for my horses (i have 2 now). it's a 40 acre spectacular ranch with the most scenic views, eagles, deer, foxes etc roaming around 24/7 and the folks here really are happy with the job i do for their horses and the lessons and trail rides i give to their daughter....oh, and they only live here for 2 months a year....i have this ranch all to myself the rest of the year. they tell me all the time how lucky and happy they are to have found me......and wow, i feel the same, but i always give my 'all 'to everything i do for them.
example: their almost dead (no kidding) horse is now running around healthy and happy because i took the time and patience to use my expertise in alternative therapies on him and give him all the love and attention he deserves and was not getting. another is their daughter is now advancing in her riding and is so enthusiastic ...... she never had that with the caretakers before i arrived because the others did the least amount for the family and their horse as they could get away with. i on the other hand poured all of my love into fixing up their horse and making sure their daughter was happy and having fun learning to become an advanced rider.......she's 16 so her mom and dad are really happy she has such a positive focus now.

when i first saw this place it was exactly as i was shown in my dream. i pulled in the driveway and after a few seconds it hit me......this is it, the dream place i was shown...... and all the small details are here too...... you can guess my reaction. i had to control myself and not fall down on my knees in tears that i have been so blessed ....the owners here would have thought i was a complete nut job for sure !

moral to my story: believe in yourself, (and your guide ie, your higher self! )believe you two can manifest anything you desire, so go for your passion and don't settle for anything short of that. back all of that with working hard doing the best job at anything you do and staying in the moment with a joyous love in your heart for everyone and everything. wake up every single morning in a state of profound gratitude.

you can all do this too........go find your bliss (as joseph campbell used to say all the time)......it's out there waiting for you .......have the dream, do the work (with love and joy)......and be patient.......it'll happen for you too :-)

hope this gives those of you that are struggling in these times an idea of what's possible, what god wants for you too.

cheri

[Matthew Clark]

hi islandgirl,

thank you so much for that amazing story - very enjoyable :d

i have a proposal for you......

i have decided i want your life and here is how it will work.

first, we swap islands ok - the uk is an island after all so you may not notice too much of a difference from the one you are on.

i will tend the horses, clean the houses and do what needs to be done.

you on the other hand can look after my partner david and clean my house. oh and you can walk in the nearby woods with my dog max.

with your 3 + 5 good girlfriends, total 8, there are only 8 neighbours in my close so striking up friends here will match perfectly with what you have now. again you will barely notice a change to how things are with you now.

i have always got on better with woman, in fact i only have 1 male friend so to speak so i can socialise with your 8 x girlfriends.


i don't want a close dating type of relationship anymore, just too complicated for me at this stage in my life

perfect! my partner bats for the same side so no worries about striking up a relationship there then ;)

regarding work, you can have my job with pleasure. you cant ride a 4 x legged animal to work but you can have my 4 x 4 which is actually better than a horse because i have never known a horse to have heating.


so what do you say? i will be sure to consult my higher self just to make sure i am ready to live on a beautiful island, tending to animals and singing to my hearts content whilst riding around a forest!! oh i will need to know what the weather is like before i decide.:)

seriously, what a wonderful story. you are an inspiration and may your happy life be blessed with even more love and joy.

you have proven the saying true... "the best things in life - arnt things".

love and light,

matt

[Bill]

cheri and others,

yes, it is about not waiting, but living it now... such a simple concept, yet so hard to practice daily.

so, as your daily reminder, look around you right now, sense what is around you right now, and if it feels appropriate, thank whatever has shown up at this moment.

peace to all of us...

[Mikazo]

islandgirl - that's a very inspiring story. it sounds like you really got lucky and things came together very well for you.

i don't know what the divine has in store for me. all i can attest to are having several dreams encouraging me to learn chinese, as well as dreams in which i was speaking in chinese or being in areas very much related to it. some of the dreams have been rather profound in scope, although very difficult to connect to 3d reality. so i did some self-study of chinese and took some classes in it in college, and have to say that i don't think it's very hard! i've also been learning german for several years and have a good command of it, and i think german is actually considerably harder.

because of this, i decided to major in international studies and should be done in just a few semesters (i've already filled the study abroad requirement, having studied in germany this summer). the universe has been very generous in practically giving me a full-ride all the way through, meaning i don't have to bother with pesky loans or any of that nonsense. after that the doors would be open to teach english almost anywhere in asia, although what other possibilities are open, i don't quite know. (keep in mind if you're interested in doing this, that you generally need a bachelor's degree in any subject. knowing the language isn't necessary, although i'm guessing it's helpful if you want to get around.) you have to look at the lives of other people who have gone down this road - look at benjamin fulford, who became fluent enough in japanese to write best-selling books in the language. i have to approach fulford with some skepticism, but this was still very inspiring to me.

why china (if china after all)? what role do they play in the upcoming events? this is the question that's on my mind now. everyone is talking about economic stuff. well, is there anything else, any other reason they should be an up-and-coming culture?

[aqcheryl]

i just wanted to throw something in the mix here that has been on my mind and i have not really seen too much mention of it myself - but when you gain the knowledge of collective consciousness, and how we are all essentially one and connected in this way, the irony is we tend to become separated from those who have yet to get to the same point.

the original poster of this thread, made me think of this - because i think we tend to withhold ourselves from others on a natural level when we dont operate on the same frequency. and if the majority of the people we are surrounded by do not operate on the one we are currently on, it really diminishes the amount of people we have to find in common with, regardless of age group. but i think this is something thats more inner than outer, as its really us making the choice of withdrawing.

its hard not to, and thats one of the hurdles we must face - because prior to enlightenment (with which we are still guppies ourselves) we could spend much of our time focused on trivial things. material things. or controlling things. when the people you know become upset at the tiniest things, or focus all their energy into something that has no real purpose... in the past one could be sympathetic or supportive of these traits... but now, its hard to deal with.
i mean, for the longest time i wanted an iphone, but could never afford it, and after several years i gave up on it. but then, as i began to see material things as petty, and let go of my desire for it, to the point of essentially not even caring whether or not i ever had one... (ironically thats when one became available to me lol)... i lost all negativity that comes with watching others that had one. a mix of jealousy, and depression, dejection, and hopelessness. all that for a material object? once i changed how i see things, that dropped. but along with it i somehow lost the understanding of how others could feel it as i once had, so it became harder to listen to friends discuss material things they wanted to that level. which hastened seclusion.

but like foosnik i believe we are the change, and seclusion isnt the answer. we havent even begun to cross the hard part. i think we fall into the trap that the more enlightened we become, the more we think we are 'done', or 'have completed'. but thats not the case, instead we are post grads now lol even though we never finish school. we are now at the next hurdle... and that is being open and accessible. if we seclude ourselves - from any age group - we limit the power of synchronicity. i remember david saying somewhere that most of us now, will act as guides - but i think that we are guides now, not just after ascension/evolvement.

and then theres another hurdle - risk of censure. after a millenia (at least) of censure, its inbred in us even at this level, that discussing any beliefs that oppose anothers results in a fight or flight situation. that you will either end up fighting, and if you dont want to face that scenario, instead you choose to avoid it. so many people think thats the only option, but as long as you firmly act upon your convictions that you respect the others opinion and voice your own without imposing yourself (and understanding you can still learn much from the other person), then you can have a good discussion without either of the two inbred responses.

we dont want people to think we are crazy, and sure its bound to happen if we leave ourselves open to discussion, but you know its important to remember that they do not walk away with nothing - after all they broached the subject in the first place which means they were open to search for the answers they seek.

not all of us are capable of putting ourselves out there. i am an extremely shy person around strangers, so its hard for me to put myself out there in that way. but im less shy online, and so what i have been finding for balance is to do what i can online. like blogging, pointing my email siggie to divine cosmos, posting in myspace and facebook status, or twitter some interesting things i come across. i post my about me about what i have come to know. if someone asks me anything, i answer.
if i receive a friend request from a stranger - as long as they are not a spammer, i approve them. i believe synchronicity points people in our direction. what path did they take to find you?

when this happens, not only have i met some like minded people i never would have so far, but i also feel more connected. and i dont see age anymore. its not that i ever cared how old my friends were, for example, but i was still aware of it. now, i dont even know, and when i find out i promptly forget. lol we are timeless, after all.

i believe we are already evolving, everyone, and that its like a flower is within us and its just starting to blossom and absorb the light of the sun.

[islandgirl]

i loved your response to 'my story' and laughed all the way through, it was just hilarious....thank you for that !!

what a creative person you are to think of all those possibilities :d so obviously you are fully capably of manifesting your own wonderful situation just perfect for you...but you were just putting me on anyway i know.

i just adore gays (especially males) and since i've moved here i haven't found any to replace those i left behind, so if you are game you can be my new gay friend :-)

if you ever get half way around the world to where i live you are most welcome to come and visit, but i need to take a pass on your inspired invitation to switch lives with you. i'm just too happy and content to mess anything up now......you know 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' .

love to you matt,
cheri

[María López]

just wanted to say i feel the same way and i've been pondering this for a while now. the last 5 years or so especially i've been doing a lot of wandering, searching, studying, etc. and in that same time period i have been without a girlfriend. i have tried to find a girl and it's extremely difficult, in my opinion, because of the tremendous odds against it. to find a mate that not only attracts you phsyically but mentally, and after raising your mental knowledge & awareness to such higher heights than average. fate has to allign us two souls together at just the right time & even then there must be that initial spark & pleasant conversation to make it to even exchanging numbers or whatever. there doesn't seem to be any particular place for meeting intelligent, attractive, & spiritual people either. and i live in austin too, which is considered to be pretty progressive & accepting. i know that there are girls out there for me, but i just don't know where to find them. i try not to let it get me down though with that same perspective that it's so rare, if it's meant to happen then it'll happen.
before 09-1999, i didn't feel alone, although i was by myself wherever i was. neither i had problems to get in touch with people and talk about deep issues. i didn't feel alone, even when i left my husband in 02-1996, because i was dying spiritually next to him, although i was ok with myself. inspite of his negative company, i used to enjoy my own company and my teenager daughter's company.

it was not until when she left to study in canada in 09-1999, when i realized that i was so attached to her, although i felt so good and emotionally strong, i started to feel more and more lonely every time, although i didn't wanted to accept it, because of my profession as a counsellor psychologist.

i have been struggling to go back to my former feeling of completeness and oness that i used to feel. i spent 13 years without a boyfriend, and having problems to talk with deep thoughts with other people, at the university, family, neighbours, etc., but after i started to read "the law of one", by january of this year, things started to change drastically. by february, i met an excellent caring soul mate, and without knowing it, i was traveling to egypt with him during long periods of amazing moments of a happiness that i didn't experience before.

nevertheless, although my life is going more or less smoothly now in all aspects, i really feel the need to share my deep feelings as a wanderer might feel. i believe that, that could be the root of the loneliness: the lack of friends that are in the same synchronicity as a wanderer might be, or perhaps, all of us must have to experience loneliness and cope with it, and when you learn that lesson, you might be in another level of understanding.

when i had the responssibility to take care of my daughter, i did not feel so much this need as i feel it now, perhaps, because i was concentrated on her entirely. but after she left, i started to feel it. that is why i intuitively know, that by getting in touch with you and with people within this site i could be in touch with the same synchronicity of love and oness, that is very difficult to get outside, and that i used to experience time ago.

let the love and light be with you (us)

maría

[Mikazo]

wow, that's an amazing story. thanks for sharing.

[quote=maría lópez;50258]before 09-1999, i didn't feel alone, although i was by myself wherever i was. neither i had problems to get in touch with people and talk about deep issues. i didn't feel alone, even when i left my husband in 02-1996, because i was dying spiritually next to him, although i was ok with myself. inspite of his negative company, i used to enjoy my own company and my teenager daughter's company.

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[Matthew Clark]

hi cheri,

congrats on being my new friend!

it was very sweet of you to respond with your thanks and naturally i am disappointed you have declined my offer! i thought of it as being "service to others" hence my offer. actually if i am honest, i saw it as a good excuse to try out my new knee high black patent leather boots while riding your horse ;)

thinking about it, i guess i am more suited to the "sea side" lifestyle anyway, though the salt water air can play havoc with the shine on my diamond tiara.


i just adore gays (especially males)

me too - funny that! ;)

this is a great thread and it is good to hear how some people having faced such difficulties are turning their lives around for the better like you.

with so much hatred in this world, it is great to be able to make someone smile. you can contact me anytime you like and thank you for the offer of staying with you. i guess you mean you will pay for the flights? of course you will - remember - service to others.:)

i am being very tame in my reply as i do not want to upset the mods (esp bbb! lol) so for now i will say take care, enjoy your island lifestyle and if i can help you in any way (i.e beauty tips/recipes) just let me know.

love and light to you and all,

matt
xx

[annecat]

a week ago i was just reading through one travel book to south america when i came upon few sentences that i wish i could have been able to write myself (as being visual, telepathic type writing is a pain).

~
"all our lives we are told that love, sharing, human community, is the ultimate source of all happiness and well-being.
i am convinced that this is not wholly true, and that human happiness is heightened when human beings learn to cope with aloneness; when they learn how to navigate without love, companionship or the trapping of religion.
aloneness is not a dreadful place once we understand how to be with ourselves on our own." ( brian keenan)

~
i have always loved to be alone ! to be left alone, although when i am with people i may come out "very talkactive, friendly, funny, easy to be talked to" (but that is just a way to hide my shyness or irritation.).

it is kind of funny to see how certain people react when i even mention that
i have very much without " a partner" or "stupid dating" or "friends" over seven years. they look at me as wondering what is that what is wrong with me !:)

my children are 13 and half and almost 16, and i am counting days that i can be me again," free and wild ", they and i leaving for our own lives, althought at times i am feeling a little sad inside that there is no one place or country that we would call "home", where to return, not to walk on memoryline but to catch up. (that is why i do not like to have "friends" as they do not live in now moment, they suppose you always to be, act, live and think as they have once met and found you.. .)
~anne

[Truth180]

since my awakening i stopped mostly talking to my old friends. all these years i have been holding back my spiritual side. an old friend stopped by yesterday and still the same hasn't changed. i mentioned a few things about being spiritually aware. the look i on his face was what i expected. thats ok though i prefer to be more open these days long as they don't burn me at the stake as a heretic or something.

i choose to be myself and spend as much time with the little ones and enjoy everyday as if it were our last. just like the song :)

love to all you guys!

[Liam]

this really is an excellent thread and one i can certainly relate to. thanks to mikazo for starting off the topic. i have found everybody's thoughts very interesting. i have always felt that the area where i live was not right for me, even several years ago before i awakened spiritually. i have been away to university and made friends from many different countries, but now i'm back at home living with my parents and i have the same problem that i did before i left home. i basically have no social life- i have two good friends that live nearby but they don't know each other, so i don't have a 'circle of friends' at all. while i was away at university i had many friends, a couple of whom were spiritually aware. now those people live in different parts of the country or even in other countries, and i've had to come to terms with being alone once again. before i left school at 18 i had sort of accepted that i wouldn't have many friends and just thought that was the way life would be for me.

i agree with what somebody said earlier in the thread- that certain areas have a kind of personality. the personality of people in my area seems to be influenced heavily by the climate. the weather is generally quite unpredictable- often dull and wet and definitely very changeable. manchester is certainly not a beautiful city- the word that has been used to describe it in many a guide book is 'gritty'- the buildings are dull in colour, and this coupled with the darkness and rain can be quite depressing at times. as you'd expect the residents seem to accept that life is hard, that they haven't been blessed and that it's not going to get any better for them. there is a big drinking culture here- in fact most people's social lives are based around going out and binge drinking at the weekends at bars and nightclubs. it's as if they need to drink away their troubles at the weekend. as you can imagine, this goes hand in hand with materialism, as people see material items as a distraction from their hard and monotonous lives and it's difficult to have a conversation with somebody about something non-material!

the other day i was talking to one of my few spiritually-minded friends online. she lives in florida and i haven't seen her for two years. she reminded me of the saying 'it's better to be alone than in bad company'. i know 'bad' is a pretty vague word really but to people like us who have some degree of spiritual awareness, socialising with someone who talks constantly about material items is not usually enjoyable.

i think maybe it's necessary to look at this issue in a different way. imagine that you lived in a place where everybody was spiritually enlightened. surely that would not give you as many opportunities to be of service. we might not be as motivated to grow spiritually ourselves either. being alone is hard but it gives us the opportunity to focus on being of service to others. if we are to act as guides, as aqcheryl mentioned, then surely it makes sense for us to be in areas where those guides are needed most. i think when you are comfortable with your own role and you are content and being of service, most other things will fall into place.

as for methods of actually meeting new people, this is something i'm struggling with. i liked the idea that somebody mentioned about trying to go to one of david's events. i know this is not practical for everyone but i've heard some great stories about friendships and even romantic relationships forming at these events. the conferences/trips are pretty much certain to have a wide variety of spiritually aware individuals. i have had the same problems as mikazo in university classes etc. many people in such classes are highly focused on achieving academically, often with pressure from parents who are paying for their education. they are usually motivated by the thought of a high-paying job and lots of material possessions at the end of it. when they are not studying they often want to be wild and party. even though i'm young (22) i have always felt too 'boring' for people of my age!

[annecat]

liam, you got all my love and sympathy!

i have lived two and half years in this country, first in scotland, and after "walking" from land's end back to scotland we settled in wales,

and never in my life have i met so so stupid and (dangerously) ignorant masses than in this country. it hurts!

( people even shout at each other when meeting " are you ok ?" like asking, do you still have some senses left after all that pork eating, drinking and stupifing tv programms. sorry, i have to bite my tongue even harder.)

and then you find all those ancient sacred sites in this country, standing stones in ley/grid lines, stones circles like avebury, white chalk horses etc.
which clearly tell about "great spiritually aware times" when unicorns were reality, knowledge of atlantis was known, portals to spacetravel were open.

scotland (especially western highland) has still "green men", unsdisturbed (magical fairy) forests and rivers, wales, cornwall have some most inspiring coast line, but the middle england is like black hole where the ley/grid lines were distorded.

( hmm..i talked to some men in avebury who are photographing the cropcircles, and i wonder if any of them are real, but anyhow, are the cropcircles like "helping us to restore the leylines" bringing the energy higher?)

and then you learnt that even david is coming to london in the late october.
i cannot help wondering myself what kind of people he is drawing to that meeting as people here who call themselves "spiritual" are only interested in
communicating with "dead ones", or taking part on "witchery".

~anne

[Liam]

hi anne, i agree with some of the things that you've said about british people. i think the problems are far worse in the big cities of the north and the midlands- i've always found manchester, liverpool, sheffield, leeds and birmingham particularly depressing. in scotland i'd say glasgow is pretty similar. this is of course the region where the industrial revolution started- manchester was the first industrial city in the world of its kind, and it would have been pretty close to hell on earth in the middle of the 19th century. it just makes me wonder whether the outlook on life from that time has been passed down through the generations. i was thinking before about h.l mecken's quote about love being the 'triumph of imagination over intelligence'. one thing i've noticed is that people in the north of england and the midlands are often very cynical in their nature. there is often no room in their lives for imagination. they don't dream about perfection. or if they did, to share their ideas with others would be showing weakness. they think that to live here you have to be gritty and hard and just get on with life, without expressing too much emotion. it's as if they feel it's weak to love themselves and others, or at least to show this. the north of england was always the powerhouse of the british economy, particularly in the 19th century and it's always been poorer than the south. it's as if the elite intentionally kept the north poor to keep the people slaving away and the machinery going while fat cats in london reaped the benefits.

i don't think this is true of all areas of the country. i was in oxford the other week and that city is certainly more welcoming to the 'dreamers'. yes there is a great deal of snobbery there with the wealth and materialism and high levels of academic intelligence but it was a place where i felt i wasn't as restricted as feel here. the smaller towns and cities further south tend to be more inviting to me. the more rural areas of the country are also a lot more relaxed and people have a more uplifting attitude to life. the wiltshire region where the majority of crop circles appear and stonehenge, avebury etc are located is fascinating to me. for such a small country the uk is beautiful in terms of scenery and the landscape is incredibly varied. i think you may be being a bit cynical about david's conference- there are many spiritually aware people in this country (finding them isn't easy though!) and i'm sure there will be plenty at the london conference. don't forget that london is very accessible for people all over europe, so they won't necessarily just be from the uk.

[Truth180]

i have been having the feeling of just getting up and leave this town. after being more aware there is times i wish i wasn't. i keep questioning myself of what am i doing here i need to move to a more enlighten area. its seems so dark here, but on the other hand i realize that there is a reason i am here in this depressing town. if you look there is few enlighten people that i have ran into and its almost an instant that you recognize them. what a relief that is to see someone in person who does still have concern of our world and cares. this is what makes me stay. i always thought about preparing and wondering it its really worth it, but the problem is i can't leave to save just myself or my kids. i am sure this has crossed many times before with others and even though this is a rough world we chose to be here to help those who want it.

keeping a smile on our face helps alot i think even those who look away thats ok. :)

[annecat]

[quote= .. i was thinking before about h.l mecken's quote about love being the 'triumph of imagination over intelligence'. ]

it was again most horrible day, rainy, grey and windy, so cold that i had to put my winter wools on, and watch all day bridehead revisited. reading your post returned the smile back on my face ~ thank you.

yes, glasgow is most dreadful place, like timetravel back to 19th century dickens' novel. ( we spent there our first night in scotland after arriving in manchester two days after my son's 11th birthday like harry potter.)

my children fell in love with oxford during the summer 2007 when we were camping around the town for few weeks.( i lived near oxford few months back in 1985) there is certain intellectual light, openmindness in that town, something that i have missed since returning to europe after spending three years living next town to cambridge, in boston, ma.

"love is triump of imagination over intelligence", brilliantly said.

if you have love in your heart... you go, without asking too many intellectual questions, no doubing like "is that clever thing to do or not".

when you look back on this thread you see that many people find it difficult to "meet people", my problem has been otherwise. i have met too many.

i love them all, and i love their stories, but i cannot keep them as "friends".(i
just hate writing, and talking on a phone, and time changes...)

this has been the only summer for five years that i haven't (yet) taken my children for an adventure. usually we buy the cheapest tickets to known destination (france, italy, uk) and just start walking! easy as that. when we get tired of walking we hitch hike, (or people just offer a lift). we have met lots of all kind of people with most inspiring lifestories, or lifelessons to be learned. some has been like friends from past or parallel lives, taking us to places which seemed to hold spiritual significance for us.

i wonder is it easier to talk to a completely stranger as there is no judgement, or need further explain oneself ? or is it just me? that i do not take myself too seriously? ~anne

[annecat]

[quote=. i think you may be being a bit cynical about david's conference- there are many spiritually aware people in this country (finding them isn't easy though!) and i'm sure there will be plenty at the london conference. /quote]

liam, thank you for pointing it out, yes, i might be getting little cynical about meeting "spiritual people", as most people (usually women) ask most irritating questions like "are you in it ?" in what ? they mean spiritual stuff, ufos and so, like some kind of "hobby". or they give me two hour lectures of their own "mystical" experiences and being a kind person i just cannot run away.

what is it then that i am looking for ? to meet someone who is not looking for ufos to land, or dwell deep in goverment conpiracy theories or so, or wait alien to save or kill us.:) but wants honestly answers to same kind of question that i cannot really but on words ?

i tell some background.
i have thirty years read, studied parapsychological and psychological books,
metaphysics, read hundred of webpages etc ...worked even few months as a young adult in terminal department in hospital to see "how we die" and in mental hospital as a cleaner to see "how the mind works" or what is the real difference between "the real crazy ones " and "normal ones". and i have had quite a life.

i have always known that i am not "from here". even my ex husband (divorced nine years ago) gave up forcing me to be "normal" (harness my talents and mental skills for money making! :eek:) althought he kind of made me promise that i put my "ufostuff " to rest until my children are older, and now they are. (this may sound very funny but my ex- husband was really scared that my second child would be and look like " an alien". he was so happy when he saw the new born had normal human body. although he had heartfailure and umbilical cord twice around his neck.)

around seven six years ago i started to see that dream of meeting with "aliens" , flying to the spacecraft etc. when being little girl.
and when i happened to call my biological mother and told about the dream, she was most surpirised that i did not remember that we had "ufo incident " on our summercottage. it was reported on newspapers and even on "ufo" programms back in early 1970's. local police was investigating etc .and i met my first american who came to interview my mother with an interpreter.
and most surprisingly i have started to remember more,

but mind can play tricks with us. and there is forces (like in the game movie) that may not like us to find the truth too easily, see through the illusions.

so, it might be that after all " not wanting to meet anyone ", i am kind of ready to see " if there is anyone else playing the same game" .

~anne

[HelioHelix]

i know how you feel about not really knowing anyone. i've been learning all of these new things about how the universe really works and how we live in an amazing galaxy filled with other people. but i feel very isolated and cut off, because i can't even talk to those who are very close to me about things like this. none of them are open to it.

seeing all the people that write on this forum and go to the conferences (i've only seen videos), i know i'm not alone in my beliefs but it is very easy to feel that way.

[annecat]

after all that i did not go to london for the conference.

so, instead, i invited two members from this "divine cosmos discussion forum" over for brunch last sunday, the 1st of november.

as i had read many post by these (or this) members, i was sure that we all would get on well.
but, when i and my children actually met these members we noticed that his posts had only been able to hint of the his deep, sincere, commitment to be "for service",
for this planet, humanity, - others.

he is very wise man, kind, intelligent and honest to the core of his being. he has a rare gift to make everybody feel good about themselves, his light uncovers the best in everyone.

some, not that spiritually advanced, may take his honesty, "rude" or "judgemental",
but i can assure anyone that is not his intention. he just tells and says things as they are.

he brought us some organic eggs, as he had rescued chickens. i did not have a heart to say that we do not actually eat eggs. so, now i have been baking for few days pancakes, dorset apple cakes...and the children are happy, :) as we had never before had so "happy eggs" for baking. thank you.

and now, divine cosmos has served it's purpose for me, as i got real friends,
thank you all ! and thank you matthew and dave !

anne

[FooSnik]

[quote= .. i was thinking before about h.l mecken's quote about love being the 'triumph of imagination over intelligence'. ]

it was again most horrible day, rainy, grey and windy, so cold that i had to put my winter wools on, and watch all day bridehead revisited. reading your post returned the smile back on my face ~ thank you.

yes, glasgow is most dreadful place, like timetravel back to 19th century dickens' novel. ( we spent there our first night in scotland after arriving in manchester two days after my son's 11th birthday like harry potter.)

my children fell in love with oxford during the summer 2007 when we were camping around the town for few weeks.( i lived near oxford few months back in 1985) there is certain intellectual light, openmindness in that town, something that i have missed since returning to europe after spending three years living next town to cambridge, in boston, ma.

"love is triump of imagination over intelligence", brilliantly said.

if you have love in your heart... you go, without asking too many intellectual questions, no doubing like "is that clever thing to do or not".

when you look back on this thread you see that many people find it difficult to "meet people", my problem has been otherwise. i have met too many.

i love them all, and i love their stories, but i cannot keep them as "friends".(i
just hate writing, and talking on a phone, and time changes...)

this has been the only summer for five years that i haven't (yet) taken my children for an adventure. usually we buy the cheapest tickets to known destination (france, italy, uk) and just start walking! easy as that. when we get tired of walking we hitch hike, (or people just offer a lift). we have met lots of all kind of people with most inspiring lifestories, or lifelessons to be learned. some has been like friends from past or parallel lives, taking us to places which seemed to hold spiritual significance for us.

i wonder is it easier to talk to a completely stranger as there is no judgement, or need further explain oneself ? or is it just me? that i do not take myself too seriously? ~anne

"intelligence is the triumph over the mood swings of love."

-me

[Liam]

1:11 on that anne (how appropriate), and i agree completely with what you're saying about matthew and dave! i met them at the conference and they really were great company. matt is very easy to talk to and it felt like i had known him for a long time. he's certainly a very caring and sincere individual. and he definitely made me feel good about myself. i'm really glad that your meeting went so well!

liam

[Matthew Clark]

hiya anne and liam,

i have debated whether to respond by posting here regarding your very kind and uplifting posts about me and dave.

the only thing that made my mind up to reply was that a thank you costs nothing and means everything.

i asked the universe a few weeks ago for more contact with spiritually like minded people.

well i certainly got what i asked for and i just want to share with others my findings of you both.

anne - we also enjoyed spending time with you and your wonderful children. your attitude to life is both uplifting and encouraging. you took us into your home and we all took each other into our hearts. thank you again so much for a lovely day. sorry you did not have the heart to say you dont eat eggs lol! actually you could of and we would not have been offended in anyway, particularly as we could have sold them for a pound! ;)

liam - i am so pleased you emailed me. i know it is hard for you because you are a bit on your own in your journey, but i ask you to stick with it. you know where we are should you want some support and encouragement. you are so young but such an old, wise and caring soul. i know i have told you that before but hey, repetition for emphases.

i would say god bless you both but i know he already has done.

love, light and more love to you,

matt :)

[annecat]

what was i thinking of, stupid me, we loved the eggs...i was kind of trying to say that we do not always know what we actually like, need..or what is good for us.
so, as we all three are feeling a little cold, (no swine flu here, please) the baking had cheered us up. (i buy eggs only once or twice a year to bake something extra special that i cannot bake without eggs.)

and, i find it most important "in these changing times" to meet people face to face,
even form some kind of "action or survivor groups", as who knows what the end of november, and the end of this year will bring. hold on to your our hats, and find someone to hold on to, as you will need friends, even i, who will most likely relocate myself very soon.:p

be well,
anne