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j_stubler
07-14-2009, 08:46 PM
not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.

The_G_Man
07-15-2009, 06:20 PM
yes, i have been having this "problem" also, but long before i discovered the material on this site. i've never really thought talking about those subjects was very important, but ever since i've woken up to the entire agenda of the new world order and the material on this site, i find talking about these things and pop culture in general as such a nuisance, meant to distract us from real issues such as these. i can't help but laugh at people who call me crazy and a cook, yet their just so entrenched in the false reality. but anyway, yes, my social life with my friends has gone down the tubes, and i'm only 19, but i just cannot engage in my previous life style of partying and drinking anymore, i just can't do it.

Patracia
07-15-2009, 11:47 PM
well, i read the seth books, when i was twenty, so that catapulted me out of 'normal' thinking, then, that was in the early 80's! my only good fortune was having a mother that had had so called 'weird' experiences and had found those books on her way looking for understanding what had happened to her. so i could at least talk to her.
there weren't as many people spiritually oriented then, as there are now, but by looking and searching (and traveling) i found friends and more and more of them....
so, i guess, the phase you are in seems to be happening to many of us who are awakening, but from my experience it will pass and you're going to find new friends and 'real' ones, soon.
good luck!
patracia

pajamabiker
07-16-2009, 10:03 AM
i guess everyone has to find what works for them.

here's what works for me.

i just try and be the best person i can, on each particular day. with the

different people i interact with.

i don't start a conversation about this unless i realy know someone and get a

vibe that they might be receptive and then i start out slow.

a large part of it for me is listening to the other person.

tigermoff
07-16-2009, 10:22 AM
not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.

i see you have been a member since early 2008. i awakened last year in july. its a few days from a year now. i was obsessed by what had happened to me and wanted to find out everything i could. there is still a lot to learn, but im now happy that im up to date and i have been able to calm myself with satisfaction.

my advice to you would be to keep yourself centred, meditate on your questions and take each situation as it comes with you new found higher vibrational level.

Deerclan
07-16-2009, 12:00 PM
spiritual awakening will do that, and it doesn't really matter so much what, where, who you are with, or whose ideas you are paying attention to. it has been my experience that getting started truly working on the 12 steps (aa, na, acoa, etc.) will put a person "out of step" with current society and its focus on shallow appearances, money, material possessions, and whatever else it can throw at a person to encourage them to forget their own soul.

for quite some time i was at a total loss whenever i happened to be in a group of people talking about the latest football game. for me, that lasted quite a while, but not forever. now i find myself able to enjoy a good football game again, and join a conversation about it if i want to. i make a point of watching the super bowl so i won't end up giving dumb looks to anybody who mentions the game the day after. it's possible to flow with the current just enough not to stick out like a sore thumb, but imo it's far more important to stay involved with the deeper spiritual currents and not worry about the awkwardness of being "out of step." my opinion only - your mileage may vary.

- deerclan

aqcheryl
07-17-2009, 05:19 PM
you know what it feels like to me is like that understanding that something is ruined for you once youve had better kind of thing.

like i dont know say you go to a special restaurant and have a steak done the best way youve ever had it - and so now any other place just doesnt compare.

for me, i relish it. its like seeing everything in a new light, i cant look at things as i used to anymore. i either see them as they are now to my understanding, or overlook them as we all tend to do as we continue the mundane tasks of 3d life lol

it feels like we are walking in the future and everyone else who has not caught up to this are from the past. now that would be a weird twisted form of 'time travel' lol

Ymunio
07-19-2009, 01:49 AM
...lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore....

i feel this too and it drives me almost to insanity. from my experience, i could throw a steak out a window and hit someone who wants to talk about michael jackson or football. but finding conversation about spirituality a la things on this site, is just impossible in the 3d world. online it's not much easier. because everyone seems to have their own take on what's happening on this planet right now. and as soon as something i say doesn't jive with their distorted view then i get inundated in negative energy in the form of very insulting advice on reading material.

as much as i don't like it, i'm forced to function in the 3d world for physical survival and go through the motions as an electrician and husband and father and taxpayer. but in my heart, i just don't live the same 3d world anymore. i live "here" and just to avoid negative energy i have to keep it a secret as if i were ashamed. it's gone beyond having a foot in two doors, it's more like being slip up the middle, a very painful and lonely experience. and it's why i came to this site, i'm desperate for conversation with other souls who are on similar spiritual path. surely i'm not the only one. this is my first post.

mcrachierach
07-19-2009, 08:41 PM
i always think about shamans, when i think about being disconnected. shamans are trained to have one foot in this world, and the other in the infinite timelessness of the soul. you could say a shaman is disconnected, but in a productive way. the shaman can look into the spirit world, and into this world, and not be afraid, bored, confused, or even attached.

i think that sense of disconnectedness is us starting to wake up on that ‘other side’, but still being groggy, and unsure of our surroundings.

that does not, however, make this experience less valuable. every moment in this sleepy 3d world, is a gem, a jewel in the crown of our own majestic experience. this world, with it’s inconsistencies, it’s pain, it’s non-truths, is the most beautiful thing ever conceived because it was conceived by us fragments of god, us splinters of our holographic universe.

true, you might have more fun on some higher level, but then what you call fun now, will see rather trivial when you get there. but never forget, there is nothing that is, that is not perfect, for nothing under heaven can be imperfect, even the flawed.

of course, i’m an optimist ;^)

2c

Jehanne
07-20-2009, 03:24 AM
i always think about shamans, when i think about being disconnected. shamans are trained to have one foot in this world, and the other in the infinite timelessness of the soul. you could say a shaman is disconnected, but in a productive way. the shaman can look into the spirit world, and into this world, and not be afraid, bored, confused, or even attached.


2c

wow, i really loved this shaman quote, it feels inspired. i would love to learn to be more productive with this feeling. interesting enough, when i first awakened, i entered a solitary period, then i moved to france where i was even more disconnected by the language barrier. now over two years later, i have maintained that solitary feeling though i work well with others and interact, i have always kept that outsider feeling. i understand it too well, but it is a peacful thing now. i prefer this reflectiveness and i am learning how to balance it more. i still feel like i should work harder at not being separated to go out in it more, but it is hard sometimes. does anyone have any good advice at how to learn to do this?

333mark333
07-20-2009, 05:37 PM
as of late i am feeling like im in between 2 realities, i feel somewhat dis-orientated and at times frustrated and lost. its hard for me to touch down here anymore, i am even becoming hermit like and refuse to partake in social events in my community..... my only real interest in is the unified field and merging my consciousness to its natural higher frequency!
life is becoming hard as i tarry along the sensual by-lanes of this programmed reality! it is not mine and i reject it!

Tbonyandsteak
07-20-2009, 08:43 PM
what if the disconntion we feel, has to with codex alimentarius and/or chemtrails, i read somewhere that oxygenes had become lesser and lesser though the years.
if you live in pollutet area, the problem is proberly higher.
if you dont get enough oxygene, you will lose energy.
an advice for some mayby:
if you have a snoring, you have no energy in the morning.
i use a nasal opening device which increases the air flow in the nose, which means that i am totally fresh in the morning.

well this is meant as suggestion

regards

Matthew Clark
07-21-2009, 01:50 PM
hi j_stubler,

in response to your post -

it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box....

wow nicely put. thats because your spirituality is bigger than the box that is all - count yourself as being very lucky!!!;)

another angle to put on it regarding you not being able to connect with your friends anymore - or they cant connect with you?

i applause your sincerity to the cause, stick with it and trust. the rewards will be more than you can imagine.

for most of my life i have felt the same as you. i remember 10 years or so ago (way before my awakening) looking up to the stars one night and crying because i felt i just wanted to go "home". i have never forgot that night and the pull to go back "up there".

in fact many people throughout my life (i am 42 on 23 july) have said i am not from this planet (sarcastically of course :o) i always took that as a compliment!

stick with it my friend - you have us as friends on this forum and i bet we are more sincere than your circle of friends. ;)

a message to the _g_man :- i am also deeply touched at your story and i take my hat off to you. being so young and together makes me feel you are an old soul and a wanderer. i applaud you by standing by the courage of your convictions.

may you both (and all visitors) have a wonderful journey and enjoy every bump life throws at you.

for now i have to return to my own planet lol and make supper!

oh by the way has anyone got change of a zonc for the parking meter?

love and light

matt
xx

BHChew
07-22-2009, 10:27 PM
i strongly relate to the concern of schizophrenically living in two realities - one being the '3d-earth-this is all there is' reality and the more deep one encapsulating all of it and more.

i have struggled in the past as i began to notice the second more vast sense of things and accepted it more and more. i thought that it would be so much easier to simply live in this alternative framework and disregard the one we were all raised in. using the 'disconnection' metaphor, i pictured a life fully 'unplugged' from the mainstream reality to be much less stressful and more natural to my being.

such a desired disconnection i think leads to a loss of credibility and a loss of overall effectiveness with the majority of others on this planet. i've come to believe, for me personally, that i would be wasting my potential by jumping off the proverbial train to take the easy road on my own. it's possible that the disposition of straddling these two frameworks is a positive challenge to face and overcome.

to me, i think that operating in both of these paradigms is integral. i think that by synchronizing both in my own being i can then work to synchronize them in others as well.

-my first post, enjoy!

Patracia
07-23-2009, 12:04 AM
in fact many people throughout my life (i am 42 on 23 july)



may you both (and all visitors) have a wonderful journey and enjoy every bump life throws at you.

for now i have to return to my own planet lol and make supper!

oh by the way has anyone got change of a zonc for the parking meter?

love and light

matt
xx

well, i don't have zoncs right now at hand but the best wishes for your birthday:) and a great film unfolding....:

about feeling disconnected: we all are feeling that way when we remember that there is a much larger part of us that isn't incarnated as it wouldn't fit into this little body box...call it a sponge, if you will....
but the wish to get 'way out of here' isn't really what we came here for in the first place....
it would be like going to the cinema to enjoy a certain film (bumps of life) and then during seeing it remembering that we are in a cinema and because of that running out of it to 'the real world'....we would never know the fun parts and the tragic parts of the film, so it wouldn't have made sense to spend all the money in order to see it (chosing your parents and live's circumstances before coming here)....
no, dear fellow travelers, lets first watch this film and be co-creative in it, its 'end' will come soon enough and then you can walk out of the cinema, take some fresh air inhale deeply and resume what you've just learned during that movie's unfolding and how much you've enjoyed the fun parts of it....
soon enough for sure, there'll be the next movie catching your attention....

enjoy your meals, wherever you are!

patracia

NancyA
07-24-2009, 04:36 PM
not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.

hi j. hey, how 'bout those packers? think brett's going to go with the vikings?

i speak as a fellow wisconsinite. yeah, ikwym big time, even in madison (i actually live outside of madison). but others have said it so well: it all is part of the growing, and you find little miracles in everyday activities and even in so-called mundane conversation.

i certainly don't have a formula for you or anyone else; there are days when i'm feeling as if i can't do this any longer, and then i rally (meditation, prayer, exercise, something good to read, visit this website).

keep your vibrations high and others will respond in kind, even if they really aren't conscious of your higher frequency. every single interaction is an opportunity for light from you.

jocelyn paige
07-24-2009, 10:24 PM
hi j...and all...

[moderator: reference to channelling edited]

now before being introduced to david, i had a heart awakening, which was 5 years ago, july 2nd. i will never forget that date, it was pivitol for me. i "accidentally" wound up at a satsang when i thought i was going to learn how to eat holistically heart smart! all i can tell you is that i walked in there "jocelyn" and walked out of there the real jocelyn. many of my negative behaviors prior to walking in there were changed when i walked out, bam!

anyway, if you are feeling "disconnected", you may want to use this opportunity to turn your attention within yourself, because in the depth of your innerness is your connection with nothingness/silence and within that, or from that will spring truth and realizations for it is the place where all knowledge and all love origiates. this is just a suggestion, but if you find even an inkling of this essence you will be drawn to seek more of it, at least that is what my experience has been (and still is!).

when i was in my late teen and early 20's, i already knew we were all one. i have poetry that i wrote, pages and pages about being free and being one, and why can't everyone see that, etc, etc...

because of this knowingness, that at the time i had no "book" knowledge of i felt very disconnected and very misunderstood, and very alone...it led me down the path (21 years worth) of severe alcoholism and attempted suicide, which thank heaven, led me to sobriety and in my quest for "conscious contact" with "god", i synchronistically was led by it (god), to my own spiritual awakening.

and in my experience there are constant new realizations, understandings, discernments, wisdom, huge love experiences

Elvakiel
07-25-2009, 07:38 AM
not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.


i have the same problem. i find it extremely boring to talk about the mundane aspects of life after spending so much time researching the "paranormal" (lack of a better word) part of life. however i have realized that people like to talk about mundane things, and can get happy and excited while speaking about them. so if i am in a "boring situation" i try my hardest to overcome the boredom of talking about the mundane, by seeing the happiness the mundane can bring people.

elvakiel

Happystrings
07-27-2009, 08:07 PM
...and in between being bored by small talk conversations i am experienceing a lot of awareness of the presence of evil and trials and tribulations yet to come. last friday i thought i was about to be overwhelmed as i experienced a sense of evil in the lives of too many people close to me and for our country.
some change, any change for the better, needs to come soon. i am feeling a bit exhausted and worried about having enought 'gas' to make it to the end.
i find a great deal of solace in classical music; can barely listen to anything contemporary although i play the music from david and larry's wanderer awakening at least once a day.
anybody else struggling to keep up a good front lately?

Nomadess 2012
07-28-2009, 10:07 AM
i just read all of the posts in this thread and i have been feeling the same for at least the last couple of years that i'm consciously aware of. it is just awesome to know that other people feel this way too. i've become more at peace with it but at first it bothered me a lot ... i can see things in people, achetypally, i believe, that they themselves don't get yet and that is frustrating and puts me in a weird position. anyone feel that way too? it is definitely an "between two worlds" feeling. it is especially frustrating around family, as family dynamics are probably the most difficult! and with so much crazy stuff going on it is sometimes hard to not fall apart with worry, but i've decided that i am going to be happy for the rest of my life from now on, without worrying about things and letting things get me down. easier said than done a lot of the time, but the realization that every person chose the experiences they have is definitely comforting.

if anyone else reading this who hasn't posted yet feels the same please post! it totally helps to hear everyone's thoughts and feelings and experiences. i love it!!!

mellisamouse
07-28-2009, 07:49 PM
i love the sponge in the little box analogy, though i have never been in the box myself...it instead feels like i could at least look into the box before, like it was see through...but now it has gotton so dirty i can't even see what is in there, and i don't want to..... if that makes any sense?

PriestOfLight
07-28-2009, 11:26 PM
to this end i have just decided to enjoy life, not judge the things others do, and bring my light in what ever i do.

why can't you enjoy a sports game if you enjoyed a sports game before? yes, you have realized that there is more to life, but that part of your life is still part of life. it just doesn't disappear.

do you think your god is judging you one way or another? if i watch this, i am bad, if i don't he will think i am good? or are you just judging yourself?

if you pull a small sponge from a box and the sponge grows, the box is still there. it's a choice to keep it open or close it.

and if you close it, would it create seperation? is that what is being felt?

in light and love

priest of light

Matthew Clark
07-29-2009, 04:06 AM
hi all,


some change, any change for the better, needs to come soon. i am feeling a bit exhausted and worried about having enought 'gas' to make it to the end.

happystrings - i can relate to that paragraph. it is as if (in my case) there are so many terrible things going on now, what with chemtrails/codex/forthcoming compulsary vaccinations etc etc, it is sometimes hard to stay focused and remain positive.

when you look back however many years you want to, there is and always has been such a negative destructive force controlling and destroying our planet. i watched the video of robert dean at the exopolitic conference and at one point he said (words to the affect) "do you know where the holy land is" - he then put up a picture of earth and said "here it is". it was a very moving experience. there she was, all alone (though we are not alone in the true sense), looking vulnerable and beautiful. earth is not just our home, it is what keeps us alive.

when i feel disconnected and "alone", i am now going to picture our planet in my mind and thank her for all she has given us. the idiot elites have had their way for far too long. we want back what is ours. something soon has to change for the better. without sounding negative and i speak for myself, i too think will we make it or still be here at this rate in 2012.

i know that sounds a bit negative and the reality will turn out to be something different, but it i would be a liar to myself if i did not acknowledge these thoughts.

all i can say is our feelings of being disconnected may well be as a result of the negative elites influence. i send them love but hate the fact they are destroying our planet.

come on mother nature - kick them back - and bloody hard!

love and light to you all,

matt :d

darkfluffy
07-29-2009, 08:13 PM
i think once your start removing the layers of the ego, emotions will start to polarize. its like stepping up the stairs, the higher you step the scarier it is. as long as you are in safe boundaries you should be fine.

be safe and listen to your higher self.

Stephen
08-01-2009, 11:51 AM
yes. this is what i've had, in a chronic form, since 2006 and i so much want to get rid of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/derealization

Nomadess 2012
08-01-2009, 04:19 PM
yes. this is what i've had, in a chronic form, since 2006 and i so much want to get rid of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/derealization

i've never heard this term before!! i understand completely. i would suggest taking a trip somewhere if possible, or trying something entirely new ... anything to break out of that "rut" feeling. i feel that way when i feel stuck in a monotonous situation ...

"monotony
it's killin' me"

i can't do 9-5 jobs, for example. my soul would wither up and die. unless of course that 9-5 job was something i absolutely love to do, obviously, but you know what i mean. don't know if that's any help or not but hang in there.

HardKnockSoldi3r
08-11-2009, 11:39 AM
@ the original poster:

i understand where your coming from, being awake while others sleep. for me, i've had a strong intuition as to whats false and whats "true." it was quite wasteful for my mother to have sent me to all those bible camps, and "youth encountering christ" programs . . . i never fell for it. i live with my grandmother now, and it sux having to hear her talkin and yappin about church with people and how god is good because she found a parking spot close the the enterance to the mall! lol! loa maybe? nah.

i love technology, yet again i could live in he mountains the rest of my life. i dont care too much about all my mvp trophy's and i dont follow teams or stats, but i still love the sport as a creative way to "pass tests, like a fun puzzle with random outcomes" it's 80% mental as it's known:)

being depressed, anxious, lonely etc., i had to discover the secrets, so i went through a few years of "dark knowledge" until i saw david on project camelot. i knew i found what i was looking for.

it's frusterating to live with others who are in a different reality. i dont know if i've always been "awakened" or what. i'll gladly associate myself with the people here rather than get lost in "stillness"

thansk for reading!

ETguy
08-11-2009, 02:19 PM
yes. this is what i've had, in a chronic form, since 2006 and i so much want to get rid of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/derealization
intense meditation is known to cause this, but if you're not meditating regularly then i'd probably look for psychological causes. derealization is typical for clinical depression, for example.

Matthew Clark
09-04-2009, 09:19 AM
hi all,

does anyone have a few thousand pounds to ditch? it doesnt matter how many, the more the merrier. :)

you see i have a problem (well i have lots actually) and as much as i do not like the problems money has caused on this dear planet - for the first time in a long time i wish i had loads.

you see in the uk, we have a fairly new tv channel which goes out on sky on channel 200. it is called the controversial channel. i am not sure but i think it has been going for about a year, though i only came across it a few months ago.

as myself and my partner decided a few months ago to boycott the mainstream channels - in particular the news - finding this channel was a well timed piece of synchronicity. they show lots of programmes about a variety of topics, all spiritual in nature. amongst many shows zeitgeist is a regular along with lots of interviews with people like david icke and the likes. they should re-name it the truth channel as they are not afraid of showing anything, right down to 911. their schedules run from 6 am to 10pm.

now the problem i have is last night, the presenter of a talk show said at the end of his show, we may be back next week. i contacted edge media (the channels owners) and they said that they have had to sell their "prime time" airing schedule in order to (for now anyway) survive. this means from 7 o clock in the evening, this wonderful channel of truth, metamorphosizes into a bloody shopping channel!!! arrrrgggg!

i am so upset about this. all of my life i have been glad that i have not been rich (seen too many times what money does to people) and now i wish i could send them a load of cash to get their prime time air back.

it is just so sad that this channel had started to get popular and is now shrinking. if nothing else would you all be so kind and send these great people a prayer of positive vibrations. i wrote to them this morning and gave them the details of this site (d.c) with a nice explanation about david wilcock. maybe they could show some of his stuff. who knows! sadly it will not be on prime time, except they have managed to keep hold of thursday evenings.

anyway, i am feeling down about this as this channel was my main source of tv. oh and [name], if you are behind this (someone is i am sure) you can run and jump if you think i am going to watch the mind numbing **** you supply. i would rather watch my hair grow in the mirror.

there i feel a bit better now. only a bit mind!

thank you all for your support.

matt

vjvousden
09-05-2009, 12:35 PM
i know what you mean. i've been in this frame of mind for about 10 years. i love living on the earth and i like people for the most part but feel more and more intolerant of those who are service to self. i feel the need to pull far away from them lately. i just feel so icky (slimed) being around them. i see everything that's wrong and wonder why i'm here in this muck? did i come too late or too soon? what can i do to change this to the positive dirction i am so craving? no job suits me, luckily i'm married to a loving, talented, hard working man who provides for us so i don't have to work outside the home. but i'm in a quandry. i need people, esp. people that radiate light like i do. but i just can't stand all the other nonsense--the bickering, hatred, violence, self-centeredness, self-degrading, lies and greed, freedoms disappearing daily, so many without work, too many drug-addicted people, the military-corporate-pharma machine that is rolling over the planet it seems with no regard to consequence.

i'm looking for light-filled, intelligent like-minded people on a spiritual path like me (not religious per se) who care about this world and the plight of all on it. but i'm bombarded daily and just wonder why am i here? i'm so thankful for this group and a couple of others with like-minded people but i don't live near any! and i feel a strong need for a physical contact, like a community of really good people. i'm so done with negatives. but here i am... :eek:

i'm looking for light at the end of this very dark tunnel. thank god/dess/creator/source for david. he keeps me sane and grounded. and hopeful.

you all rock!:d
valarie

Threethree
09-05-2009, 11:21 PM
i have lived 38 years on planet earth, i don't think i have been here before.., my veil is not allowing me to know that.

i awakened rather abruptly, earlier this year to what i am. it has been an extremely rough ride. i was never able to comprehend why people were mean to each other, picked on each other, gossiped about each other, and so on.

the experience and sensations of sexuality though, are by far the most intense in this density. it is the reason for this dimension. to understand "me" and the other, the "desired" is most profoundly and potently made clear by the creator, in the third dimension. this is the place to be. this is the school to be in. souls line up to be here, to go through this unbelievably intense experience.

Alliantia
09-17-2009, 04:44 PM
hi everyone,

i have bounced around from feeling very disconnected to extremely connected, from my days being full to the brim with synchonistic meetings in which i help people out or receive information about what i should do next in my life to feeling like time has really sped up and i am in a zone of forgetting everything i've learned and being confused and sad, or just not really here.

i've found that i will have to change my diet, which is weighing me down and has contributed to not being well. being well nourished and doing lots of yoga has helped me at times to maintain a consistent perspective - almost like an ongoing now, for long periods of time in which i am completely at ease and flow with my environment, and get a lot of joy out of it and the people i meet, regardless of how spiritually evolved they are. it is like it is all a dance - and synchronicity presents me with what nourishes me as well as opportunities to nourish others.

to remain here in this state longer, i have learned to experience this reality as a dream in which i have become lucid. that way i feel fine, everything is fine because it is just a dream. plus, it can be a really cool dream. this does still feel disconnected though, and in order to feel happy and serene and joyful i also then say, ok, what will i do in my dream? how beautiful a dream! it is me everywhere shining to myself through so many beautiful images! i do not need to have chakras, but i can use that concept (which becomes very 3d, to fill my avatar (my body and identity as a separate entity) with love and healing. i can also use my avatar to heal others and communicate with them. in this state i remember everything but without a story line. i am no longer forgetful or unmindful. i care about others' wellbeing and happiness out of no effort, just my own bliss. i am unattached to any consequence or activity. i can just admire the beauty around me - the energy of creation. it is like moving from perception to creation...hmmm.

i am not sure this will help. i felt i wanted to post it.

thanks for listening.

MichaelFromGod
09-21-2009, 09:17 AM
yes,

it seems to be happening everywhere and with a lot of people, i am so scatter intellectually, emotionally, physically, sometimes it is overwhelming, things seem to be happening so fast, i 've learned to get grounded (pray, meditate) and it helps immensly, this world is changing big time, whats so frustrating is that most people are not aware of it and think it's coming from the external things of this world (and many are!), but there is a ever so subtle feeling that tells me were going through a big change and its going to get more intense, so hang on to your seat, this ride is not over yet.


michael:eek:


not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.

ascendingstarseed
10-30-2009, 03:07 AM
i can't help but laugh at people who call me crazy and a cook, yet their just so entrenched in the false reality. but anyway, yes, my social life with my friends has gone down the tubes, and i'm only 19, but i just cannot engage in my previous life style of partying and drinking anymore, i just can't do it.

i got a kick out of your post, i was your age in 1980 and was thinking these things that we all talk about now ufo, extraterrestrial races and the end of the world "as we know it". back then that was really "crazy talk" so i buried it all because there was no sense dwelling on it and just let it go...didn't want to be just another doomsday prophet. :rolleyes:

now it all "appears" to be coming full circle, hopefully you won't having to bury it and drag your feet for a couple decades like my generation. all along knowing in the back of your mind that.....well, things are going to change :cool:

your right, at this time partying and drinking is a waste of precious time. i recently even turned off the tv and traded in the same old loud rock-n-roll radio station, for progressive talk radio and youtube videos on the 2012 ascension process.

now all that mindless stuff seems so silly....and part of the programming.

you have a good head on your shoulders, keep listening to your instincts....

~a~>

seanco
11-07-2009, 02:16 AM
i totally understand what you mean when you say, "disconnected". i've felt that way my entire life. upon reading, viewing, and listening to much of david's material i feel i've centered myself a lot more. i have begun to understand much more of why i'm here, and why things are the way they are in america, and the world.

after "going down the rabbit hole" as it is described in "the matrix", reality just doesn't seem real anymore. it's kinda hard not to feel disconected! i'd rather feel this way though, than be just another sheep in the herd like so many sleeping people.

i have faith in a greater good, and i know everything is going to be ok. everyone moves at their own pace, and increases vibrations when they are ready.

i'm also looking forward to david's documentary on sci-fi tomorrow night!

namaste

Anette
11-21-2009, 06:31 AM
so it isn't just me who feel disconnected? :rolleyes: i have increasingly felt this way since the beginning of this decade, but this feeling have just exploded the last six months. i don't have any close friends, because i can't relate to what is important in the lives of the people i meet, it's like they live in a different reality. i don't see that as a problem, though, i have always been a loner. :) i have always found it strange that people spend so much of their lives at things that doesn't matter, that they don't see, to quote the beatles: all you need is love!

this summer i had this amazing feeling, almost a bubbly sensation, that i was about to fint out the truth. about two months later i found some of david's work, and it felt so right. i haven't told anyone about this, but i'm sure you all understand. but this has just increased the disconnected feeling. things that where important to me before, just doesn't matter anymore. but i have to work to stay connected, because i believe it is important to do so.

thank you all for beeing so loving.

love anette.

rocksisi
11-23-2009, 06:02 PM
i also feel veeeery distracted and disconnected from everybody around me, because they don't seem to get a clue, or wana understand what is going on. maybe unconsciousnously ,they are scared to know the truth- the don't suspectt what a fantastic goledn age is coming, however!i love you people, you seem to be the only ones now that speak "my" language.
kisses!

iamdemetri00
11-24-2009, 08:48 PM
in regards to relationships, it seems to be near impossible to link up with people who are savy to david's information. i live in california and am hoping to make friends who know of his work. but no luck in my location so far.

noppy
11-30-2009, 03:51 PM
i felt ''disconnected'' the moment i saw a light flash from the sky. i turn down to religion i believe in e.t./ ufo. that there were more things hidden in the pyramid than just gold. the universe is greater than ever told. dreams are other worlds. paranormal excist and reincarnation. i was 6 or 8 when i started to believe and reading those thing.

i never understood why children my age don't even find it awesome to read about this, well they don't even know it excist. while they love reading storys about those standerd childer books i rather read about dead and mysterys about egytians king.

i always believed that i was a messenger of god to awake others with much love, truth and joy. the teachers thought i was just having child fantasy

i'm 16 now but heck what other people say! now i know am not even human to begin with i don't need to tell them about this. i find it more important to send them love so they don't fear and worry cause the day will come we are gonna life in unconditional love and most people don't even know what that word truely means

its time to re-awake our brothers and sisters and give them the unspeakable treasure, themselve.

renegadeloser
12-08-2009, 11:28 AM
yes, i have been having this "problem" also, but long before i discovered the material on this site. i've never really thought talking about those subjects was very important, but ever since i've woken up to the entire agenda of the new world order and the material on this site, i find talking about these things and pop culture in general as such a nuisance, meant to distract us from real issues such as these. i can't help but laugh at people who call me crazy and a cook, yet their just so entrenched in the false reality. but anyway, yes, my social life with my friends has gone down the tubes, and i'm only 19, but i just cannot engage in my previous life style of partying and drinking anymore, i just can't do it.

i am also 19 and this described my predicament exactly. i've always been put off by conversations about pop culture and sports. however i've always been able to find a few, eh... outcasts that i could relate to. the type that party and drink, but at least they talk about their life's experiences and their opinions on things and not just "did you here such in such did such and such, what a b***" or "did you see the game wah wah wah wah wah". but now that i've started to meditate regularly and educate myself seriously. i just have no roots with my old social circle. the only people i interact with now are my immediate family.

Dkrtist
12-08-2009, 01:05 PM
i go through ebbs & flows where i live totally embraced with spirit, which lasts for days & weeks, sometimes months. then i get into such a funk and just want to completely isolate myself from everyone else. i believe it to be a normal part of the awakening process. after all we are part human ;) this has been happening for a couple of years now but my intuition tells me something huge is coming. i feel like i have blockages that need to be cleared before i can completely submerse myself and it is frustrating, to say the least!

aqcheryl
12-14-2009, 07:27 AM
i go through ebbs & flows where i live totally embraced with spirit, which lasts for days & weeks, sometimes months. then i get into such a funk and just want to completely isolate myself from everyone else. i believe it to be a normal part of the awakening process. after all we are part human ;) this has been happening for a couple of years now but my intuition tells me something huge is coming. i feel like i have blockages that need to be cleared before i can completely submerse myself and it is frustrating, to say the least!

i go through this as well, though i always 'blamed' it on being an aquarius lol
i have to agree though that it must be a part of the awakening process, because if you are too much in one environment you cannot refresh unless you escape it for awhile - and once you do you come back and everything that was important before, just isnt anymore. everything holds new meaning after an isolation spell :)

RayneboWolf
12-15-2009, 08:22 PM
:d
that sponge is busy soaking up vast amounts of inspiration,becoming motivated to look within and all that stuff left on the floor is no longer able to sustain you,it has no value,it was just a filler anyway.what can compare to the law of one and ascension !!!!!! it`s so big it arrests your attention,leaving no room for sullied water retention.:d


not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.

HalexandriaAngel
12-16-2009, 04:28 PM
hey everyone,

just recently coming out of a disconnect that was hell in and of it self, i would like to help you by giving you some straight up truths. ok?

if you are disconnected spiritually, your energy centers one or all are blocked. period. go to your chakra sections and figure it out. open them . get real with the fact that you are being nasty to your nabor, kid or wife admit that is just not going to fly when it comes to being connected. whatever, catalyst you are missing, you need to figure it out. reflect... reflect reflect. this is the only way to discover and then work with that catalyst you ignored, missed or failed to even see.

finally, this may not go well but your centers also contain those of a sexual nature. have you been allowing that area to flow and renew lately? if not, you know what your homework for today will be then. single people too, you know the drill.

getting away from the concrete and into mother nature, hug a tree or something for a few hours, that too is really helpful.

i love yas... be blessed and bless.

HalexandriaAngel
12-16-2009, 04:43 PM
forgot to mention something important. stop looking at all the bad things, no more 2012 doom and gloom, no more politics, no more social injustices. think about this... do you feel good after you have seen this stuff? do you feel empowered? do you feel love love love.. no .. so garbage in .... garbage out.

you are awake already... no sense in gumming up the works with it. let it go.. catch up on new stuff once a month or something. you want to be full of the love bug. they want us to watch them.. want us in fear... want us scared to be free... ok?

ltpg97
11-10-2010, 05:30 PM
not sure if it's just me or if this is happening to anyone else here. lately it seems that i have been feeling more and more disconnected from life as usual. i spend a lot of time thinking about many of the topics on this site mainly because i find it all so interesting, not to mention that most of it makes so much sense. but as a result i find that i can't connect with my friends anymore conversationally. talking about football, sports, work and gossip all seems so petty and i just can not get into that anymore. and no one that i know cares to talk about much else. it's like taking a sponge out of a tiny box --- now i can't get back into the box. lol.


it's happening to me as well. for the past few years i find myself becoming more distant from my friends and those on facebook i connect with. it's weird. it's almost like i don't exist to them. i write a friendly "hello" and i don't even get a reply most of the time. the people who don't believe, don't want to talk to me it seems. i just don't understand.

i find myself having a hard time talking to my family too. i get nervous and uncomfortable at times because i feel they won't understand if i try to talk about this awakening. so i try to listen in on religion, business or football but find it uninteresting.

stw0201
11-12-2010, 02:04 PM
whats up itpg97,

i think we're a little late on this discussion. anyway here is how i feel about the feelings of disconnect we are all experiencing. most of our family and friends aren't as fortunate as us to awaken to who they truly are yet. so their minds have created an ego for them to tell them who they should be based on outside influences. as time goes by the ego grows stronger and controls their behavior. when an ego is exposed to the truth it recognizes that truth will eventually lead to its destruction and it fears that. the ego's response to the truth manifests in the physical human as feelings of anxiety, fear, and anger. this is what i believe causes the disconnect. it hurts when your own family completely disregards what you are interested in but it isn't really them it is their ego fearing its inevitable destruction. i have found it easier to talk about these things with my true friends rather than family. if you challenge someone's concept of reality they will usually become angered unless they trust you or are very spiritually centered. i don't have any answers other than stay strong and take baby steps with the people around you. i believe eventually they will be looking to you for answers when the time is right.

golden otter
11-14-2010, 10:47 PM
it warms my heart to see all the replies in this thread :d we are obviously not alone here! i too experience the same...deeply, and daily. i finally 'jumped ship' a few years back...quit a 'good' job, dumped the abusive partner, and kind of 'dropped out' of the whole modern civilization scene. i've always felt different from most people i meet, but lately (since beginning to awaken, i don't presume to be completely there yet!) i oscillate between feeling fairly comfortable in my own skin and being completely invisible. i'm coming to realize that this is our challenge, to move with grace and beauty through the 'profane' world, and be able to love and forgive the most unlovable and unforgivable. i'm at the point now where i must constantly remind myself,"expand love, expand love" it's tough, since my most challenging relationships lately get right up in my face to test my love expanding abilities. now when i feel utterly alone i will think of all the wonderful people who have posted here, inspiring to know we all feel this same difficulty, it's not just you.

i tried like crazy to convince the ex to see the disconnected way he lives (football, drinking, sex, and constant media dribble), sensebound. but i finally realized i was beating a dead horse, if a person is not ready to know, we can't make them, we just have to allow them to be where they are and love them anyway and move on. after all he is me anyway, right? sometimes it's a challenge to remember that we are all a fragment of the same one.

lately i keep thinking too that 'they' (elite, nwo, you know, 'they) do not want us to dream, so they keep us distracted and worrying to keep the vibration down. so i've made it a particularly strong point in my life to start daydreaming again (it was nearly dead in me after 47 years of 'life.' i remember my parents and teachers always called me a dreamer when i was little like it was a bad thing!) of the wonderful community and cooperative soul-based future that we must dream into existence. dream on!

ltpg97
11-15-2010, 03:10 PM
hi golden potter,

i've been a day dreamer all my life. i've only had one girlfriend that was completely the opposite of me that lasted only a few months. since then i've been single thinking i can't connect with any girl i've met because they don't see the world for what it truly is the way i do. or maybe they think i'll abuse them in some way and not treat them right.

i wish i had all the answers to our existence but i can tell you that we have been lied to by the powerful elites since the day we were born. i'm now fully awake to the truth that i'm becoming aware of on a daily basis.

i feel disconnected like you from the people who refuse to awake to what is truth. i'm grateful i have found a forum where i can relate to other people who are just like me.



it warms my heart to see all the replies in this thread :d we are obviously not alone here! i too experience the same...deeply, and daily. i finally 'jumped ship' a few years back...quit a 'good' job, dumped the abusive partner, and kind of 'dropped out' of the whole modern civilization scene. i've always felt different from most people i meet, but lately (since beginning to awaken, i don't presume to be completely there yet!) i oscillate between feeling fairly comfortable in my own skin and being completely invisible. i'm coming to realize that this is our challenge, to move with grace and beauty through the 'profane' world, and be able to love and forgive the most unlovable and unforgivable. i'm at the point now where i must constantly remind myself,"expand love, expand love" it's tough, since my most challenging relationships lately get right up in my face to test my love expanding abilities. now when i feel utterly alone i will think of all the wonderful people who have posted here, inspiring to know we all feel this same difficulty, it's not just you.

i tried like crazy to convince the ex to see the disconnected way he lives (football, drinking, sex, and constant media dribble), sensebound. but i finally realized i was beating a dead horse, if a person is not ready to know, we can't make them, we just have to allow them to be where they are and love them anyway and move on. after all he is me anyway, right? sometimes it's a challenge to remember that we are all a fragment of the same one.

lately i keep thinking too that 'they' (elite, nwo, you know, 'they) do not want us to dream, so they keep us distracted and worrying to keep the vibration down. so i've made it a particularly strong point in my life to start daydreaming again (it was nearly dead in me after 47 years of 'life.' i remember my parents and teachers always called me a dreamer when i was little like it was a bad thing!) of the wonderful community and cooperative soul-based future that we must dream into existence. dream on!

golden otter
11-16-2010, 04:37 PM
thanks, itpg97 :)

yes at least we have each other here. ya i've just decided that my 'soulmate' is probably not currently incarnated in a body. i'm just going to concentrate on my kids and my consciousness for now. but it is nice to connect with other people who have at least some idea of what i'm talking about.:p

Sethtann
02-06-2011, 10:42 PM
as much as i don't like it, i'm forced to function in the 3d world for physical survival and go through the motions as an electrician and husband and father and taxpayer. but in my heart, i just don't live the same 3d world anymore. i live "here" and just to avoid negative energy i have to keep it a secret as if i were ashamed. it's gone beyond having a foot in two doors, it's more like being slip up the middle, a very painful and lonely experience. and it's why i came to this site, i'm desperate for conversation with other souls who are on similar spiritual path. surely i'm not the only one. this is my first post.

amen on this from ymunio. to say this is exactly how i feel would be an understatement. my background included the normal, even storybook version of growing up, i was a star athlete, popular in school, went on to college where i joined a fraternity and stayed there 8 years. i was a social powerhouse during those days, and although there was always an interest in the unknown, the stars, the supernatural, i kept it from altering my reality. until i was around 28 years old, and upon the reading of [please pm for title] which had an effect on me that i have yet to become re-grounded from. i can't snap out of it. over the last four years i've gone from conscious states where i was following a path of synchrodestiny, to right now, where i don't see (recognize) a single coincidence that has meaning for a month or more. i've debated moving out of the country to a remote location many times, but have never had the courage to do it. the need for money and to please others in my life that i feel bound to, has so far won the battle. i am constantly trying to balance these two perceptions, and use what i have learned to help me be the best i possibly can in the reality that i am currently experiencing. many times i feel that maybe i am just severely depressed, and possibly i am just going nuts. it's a day to day struggle that has gotten worse even over the past two weeks. i honestly believe it's my ego struggling to survive and keep control. feel free to pm me or reply if anyone would like to discuss the subject. there are very few people i talk to about it.

Meerie
02-08-2011, 02:16 AM
hey seth, i can relate to what you said... 29 was a crucial age for me too (had a premature kundalini awakening and lost it afterwards, could not handle the extreme energies. it almost landed me in a mental institution). 28 / 29 is the time of saturn returning to the position it has in your birthchart, so it is an important and interesting time for many.
i also keep thinking, should i move to the country ? the city sucks sometimes, but then i have my job and friends here. but honestly i would not even know where to move to.. maybe when the time is right i will know.
or maybe i am just at the right time in the right place right now... even though i feel disconnected and do not get clues and synchronicites. i even thought of consulting a clairvoyant on this... but the time does not seem right either lol.
love and light,
meerie

rob_n86
02-09-2011, 06:09 AM
i am glad to come here and read all of these, knowing that so many people are in the same situation. i come to work, and every moment i am not working i am on here or off reading and learning about something else. i dont seem to care about this job like otheres do. i just watch them sometimes and think, "is this all you do, do you think about anything at all other than this". they seem clueless to me. i cant even have a normal conversation with most people. i have to pick and choose carefully who i decide to talk to about this genre of information. i am lucky to have parents, a sister, and girl friend who are as much in-tunes as i. so i am not totally alone. i feel disconnected, yet at the same time, "plugged in". i am a tech junkie so naturally i am surrounded by technology and electronics. most of my time is spent on my computer hooked up to my tv or watching movies. i dont have much of a social life at all, by choice. lately i just feel like i'm waiting, just passing the time until something, i dont know what, happens, that gives me an opportunity to move on. if i could, i would drop my life and go help excavate the bosnian pyramids for the world to see. i would devote my time and energy to something worthwile rather than something useless and pointless to a greater means of existance. i was in the military, now i do the same exact thing as a civillian, anymore i cant help but look at myself as a contributor to death and wars i have nothing to do with.

xpectmiracles
02-18-2011, 10:45 PM
there have been a few on this thread who have mentioned their involvement in12 step recovery. this is where my serious spiritual journey began, before a found recovery i felt disconnected to everything and everybody. the program has helped me reconnect with the world. i am grateful that through the community of fellow recoverer's i can share my spiritual journey freely. there are others who are serious about their spiritual path.this forum is one such supportive community. have faith that the one infinite creator will align you with others of like mind to share with. do not give up hope.
love and light,
cheryl

GoldenGlow
02-19-2011, 12:18 AM
greetings ymunio! i relate! i've been out of the 3d box for many years now so i'm not bashful about expressing my thoughts albeit i can only reveal snippets of what i know to the sleepers who are still stuck in the 3d illusion, hence i have to seek inlets for a place of admission in order to seep in at least some of the truth soon to be revealed or even to find an interesting conversation as i am totally not interested in the usual small talk. it can be lonely for sure!

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much love and light!

Mikazo
02-19-2011, 02:22 AM
i can relate to the feeling of "disconnect" that people are describing. as far as dealing with people is concerned, i try to keep a low profile and keep conversations on their level. after all i have to maintain a cautious skepticism myself and not claim to know everything. there is not much to say about my life so i usually listen to what other people have to say instead of preaching to them. even people who appear unawake may be awake in some ways we don't really anticipate, and i've had timely synchronistic messages come to me in places i wouldn't otherwise expect (even mainstream churches!)

i graduated college last year thinking afterwards i would be traveling overseas to teach english. everything worked out well in school. i had grants which paid for all of it, i got good grades, i survived in another country in spite of an injured back. i went through it feeling it was meant to happen. however afterwards, the jobs i applied to in the country i wanted, japan, never worked out, and it has been a frustrating ordeal trying to find similar work in china and taiwan. i sort of wonder if that is really the path i am meant to walk or not. i imagine many recent graduates are running into the same issue. the local market for 3d employment is dry as a bone. without much incentive to go out and spend money on gas driving everywhere, i stay at home a lot and don't get exposed to many real situations with other people. this can leave me feeling very stagnant and full of uncertainties, wondering if i should be more productive somehow or if there's something else i should be doing.

what is stranger is that usually when i meet someone i connect with, they vanish off the radar. sometimes they move away and don't stay in touch. sometimes i simply cannot contact them anymore. one of them disappeared about three years ago, and it wasn't until recently i heard he had gone back to his home country and died in a car accident. it's never anything personal, and things change and that's just how life is.

in spite of this i do think that due to our individual processes it is best that we be in isolation in certain parts of our journey. there are times to withdraw and reflect, and maybe on a deeper level that is what we are asking for. i try not to fight it too much but i wonder how and when things might pick up. maybe i will experience some inner shift or change of perspective at the right time and move on from there? i am optimistic, but i also have to admit the uncertainty is what really does it.

so that's my "disconnect" experience in a nutshell!

Rozmund
02-19-2011, 07:46 AM
hi all, my first post - what i think is this: be very grateful that we have eyes to see, and ears to hear...that we have the ability at our finger tips to acquire the right knowledge to serve ourselves and mankind - we are each here on a unique journey, so give it your all, do not think you are ever alone...there are millions of us with like hearts...and that is where the love is.....we may only meet each other one at a time, now and then. i believe we are not chosen, but we have chosen to become aware, to give of ourselves.... sometimes the right word, look, gesture in the right place is all it takes to get positivity going...we are creating the "base" or "spring board" if you will to help propel us forward...and hopefully take others with us in our spiritual "wake" ....(as in boat.)...we each have a higher self, as david would say, even if we do not always keep that thought foremost - so if ever for some reason the world gets too heavy, or many things are coming together at once and appear hard to digest, i actually converse with my higher self...out loud...at my age, they probably think i am on my way to dementia..but that is not my problem...many just don't know, what they do not know...but it is never ever too late to fast forward and learn...and i get answers and am forever grateful for the increasing insights and "aha's"...

NathanDF
02-20-2011, 01:29 PM
i feel the exact same way... what a life!

Felix Cat
02-20-2011, 02:40 PM
just writing to say i've always felt disconnected from the world in the sense that the money and job system has never made sense to me growing up and still does not.

it's a wanderer thang. lololol

Lu25
02-20-2011, 07:16 PM
i myself feel the same way about money and job. something is not right, most of my friends focus on getting a higher degree just to make more money and they do not even like their careers. i understand we need to work in order to pay our bills, taxes etc...... but the same routine over and over never made any sense at all.

i still go to school because i really enjoy being in my field. the more i learn the better i feel about myself. if i could just study without worrying about to go to work, to pay bill etc.... that will be great.

cameronjcw
02-23-2011, 03:53 PM
wow i was majorly disconnected for a couple of days there lol :p really glad you got the site back up :)

but really as for feeling disconnected yeah i feel a bit like that myself. i feel as if i cant relate to much of what goes on in the world and in away always have felt like that, like i was in the wrong place. i still feel like that probably more now as ive gotten older. i feel like a spectator, maybe i am not really meant to do anything here and thats the reason why i feel so displaced, maybe i am meant to be here as an observer!?

i wonder if thats possible? i feel as if a lot of my memories are someone else's or something. its like yes i know my memories are things that i have experienced in this life but i am a very different me all this time later, time seems to have gone by so fast now, like warp speed? maybe everything happens at warp speed and we only experience it slower in that particular moment. i have had some experiences when i lol ok back and its like i am a spectator in my own life, watching me from another point of view and also watching other people from a different point of view and not just my own.

its weird i feel like nothing more than a camera observing this reality but its not me watching its someone else watching from my point of view and from other points of view too!?

xpectmiracles
02-27-2011, 07:57 PM
hey, i wanted to share an experience i recently had at work. i am an rn (registered nurse).the other day another nurse was talking about a patient of hers who was saying he had an out of body experience. the other nurses were laughing and commenting on the man's mental stability, how much oxygen he was getting to his brain, etc. i stood there not commenting. i was thinking that an out of body experience would be a cool experience to have and i would like to talk to the patient about it. i do not see it as a symptom that something is wrong. i see it as a confirmation that our essence is just physical in nature. i couldn't share this with my co-workers; but, i can freely share it here with confidence that the others here on this forum see it the same as i. thank you! i am very grateful for this community.

Xisto
02-27-2011, 08:08 PM
me. for all of my life. i just wished to go away from all this nastiness and ugliness. corruptness of humans is so wild i feel impregnated. it's as if living poorly a badly written role in a crowded theather.

Lumaza
03-06-2011, 12:39 AM
hello, brand new to this site. i have been searching for someone to finally explain what's going on. about 6 months ago i had, i guess you would call it a visit or out of body experience. i call it a visit for i felt i wasn't alone in the room. the next morning i woke up with my right eye completely shut. never have i had a stye or anything like that. well the swelling went down and now there is something visibly under my eyelid, meaning the swelling went away but there is still a small bump under the eyelid. to make things even weirder i have been having these incredible vibrations since then. my next step is going to a doctor, but i don't think they will have an explanation. i know it's a spiritual thing because i am having incredible visions of alot of water coming. i mean water that wipes cities away. i wrote an email to david to try and get some kind of reasonable explanation. i have also written dolores cannon and a few other people that i think would understand. but it seems that these people don't return emails. i know they have incredible busy schedules. anyways any incite you guys can give me is much appreciated. i am dead serious about what i have said here and i am not a nutcase or anything else like that. this all has made me extemely confused.
thank you for your time!

Audioaxe
03-07-2011, 02:40 AM
hello all

i'm kinda new here in that i have not made many posts, been checking it out for a while though.
i can definitely relate to being disconnected, ive felt like that all my life.
i spend a lot of time by myself as i think im a pretty good friend : ) and i actually enjoy my company, i can relate to rob_n86 about watching, that's all i did for 20 years when i worked as an audio engineer, i've always felt like a spectator watching all these people that just don't seem to have a clue about anything and it is definitely getting worse, ive never got into watching sports, just don't get it, but the one i really don't get is reality tv.......just makes me cringe :p, i never wanted to get married or have a family but that changed when i met someone who was so much like me that i had to take notice now we have 6 children........not sure how that happened?.............love my kids though!
i have been kinda lost for a long time, it got really bad a couple of years ago i just felt like there was something missing in my life and i couldn't work out what it was, put me in a spin for a while, anyhow i started waking up a few months ago stopped drinking and smoking dope and started researching, not sure why just felt like the right thing to do, then in my travels i found david's interview with project camelot and ive been a virtual sponge ever since, just cant get enough information about everything to do with new world order through to ascension, haven't read a book in over thirty years but i devoured the law of one and ordered the rest of the catalogue from l&l even buying dewey larsons universe of motion.
the law of one is like my "how i live manual" i can relate to everything in it so much that it kinda spun me out a bit and i then realised that i wasn't a nut bag at all i was normal and the rest of them were nut bags! im not religious in fact i classed myself as an atheist, looked into a lot of religions but they just seemed so self centred all thinking they were the first and only religion something i could not buy into but i have always known that there had to be a higher power just didn't know it was me :0 ...well just a little bit : ) .........really wasn't sure about meditation till i read up and realised ive been doing it all my life and didn't even know (now i feel like nutbag) i just do it lying down.......just feels right that way and no i don't go to sleep zzzzzzz

l&l michael

gabrielzero
03-13-2011, 06:43 AM
heya audio axe.

i know how you feel regarding the big change in perspective after discovering david wilcock and project camelot. before him i was introduced to john magnus and his astral projection book, but discovering david wilcock sped up my interest in metaphysical phenomenon.

before my friend got me into conspiracy and spirituality i was a mess and i was lost. i was content to spend all of my free time playing video games and going to work. i didn't have any friends and i was positive i wouldn't ever be happy with anybody. now i still work and make money, but my perspective on life is a much more positive one. i reach out to my higher self on a daily basis, and i know now that i can control my life and steer it in different directions. life isn't as hopeless as the general public wants you to believe it is. this is not a mindless and blind universe, i am thankful that it never was.

i still feel a strange disconnection among what some might consider "the majority" of people around us. so i try my best to provide an example for those to follow. i try to lead the way by being as calm, happy, and loving as i possibly can, which comes more naturally with the more spiritual i become. like david says, if it is their destiny then they are going to ask you questions, which in turn you'll be able to help them become more spiritual. that is all i can really hope for.

i wish everybody in this topic the best of luck in their spiritual travels.

voidofsilence
05-28-2011, 07:32 PM
definitely feeling the disconnect. in some ways but not all. i have a ton of good things going on with music, that i am involved with, but i dunno spiritually i just fee a bit off.

not sure if i have this porn addiction either. i probably do. i guess its either that i like the hot girls aspect or whatever, but the other part of me feels remorse. i often wonder if these women or men like doing porn or they don't? more so with the wife it is a definite issue, but my ego seems not to care. i have had this issue for quite a while and i wouldn't say i am really proud of it. i even have to go as far to hide from my wife, who i know is loving and caring and doesn't deserve the lies.

me and the wife are gonna watch the secret tonight. i figured it might help. im tired of feeling in this place of without power of things. it seems i know the solutions , but i don't want to initiate them. i do believe in the power of self, but my ego is just too fierce and tells me everything is ok and that there is no need of solution.

it seems like i can barely focus on the knowledge, love, etc. these days. feeling very disconnected.

anyone have any advice? thanks.

captainokirk
05-29-2011, 08:36 AM
i've been feeling the same way. it's good to have this forum to discuss this with others who are wondering why. my feelings lately, are that i want to spread a good word to those who seem to not get what's going on in the world. yet, i don't quite feel the confidence to speak with conviction about what i believe to be true. there is so much information available to us, it keeps coming in massive waves. the problem is, something will make perfect sense, and then i will read something a week later, which will totally contradict whatever it is i am reading.

i know that the answers do lie within our very own conscience, but i still have a difficult time getting to that point. sure, it's easy to say, that i just need to quiet the mind and listen to the thoughts that come in, but we live in a society that keeps us so busy that we find very little time to just sit and relax. and when i do, there is that feeling of guilt that i should be doing something else.

i can't seem to focus on any one thing, my mind jumps all over the place. it's overwhelming sometimes, and there just never seems to be enough time to do all the things i would like to do. i do not get stressed about it, i know that all things are happening for the reason i came here for, which is to experience being a human on this planet. my guess is that i am confused by all the "stuff" that is happening.

we are in the process of evolution, and i'd like to believe that this higher consciousness we are all about to ascend to, is going to clear up any misconception of all that we are being told, by the many different sources we are exposed to.

i have always considered myself as an observer of others, i feel that i am here for a larger purpose, and when i finally get to that point of knowing that what i am seeing is absolute truth, i will be able to direct others to the possibility of living without fear, and understanding that if you express love to everything, you will be in the right place at all times.

we must experience negativity in our lives , without it, we would not know its opposite. that's where i think i run into problems, if i try to explain that to someone who is experiencing a difficult time, i hope that it takes the edge off a little. what we all seek is to experience a positive attitude all the time, is this possible?

rob_n86
05-31-2011, 05:31 AM
so how is everyone feeling today and the last few days? just curious cause i've been a bit depressed lately between personel issues and world events, woundering if its a phenomenon others are experiencing or just me. each day i try to hold posotive thoughts and keep a posotive outlook, i try to visualize the negative energies leaving the earth, but some days its just hard to concentrate and i get distracted easily. i still must have some sort of additction to "fear porn", everyday i view the icke headlines and sometimes its just to much, its to be expected but still, its disheartning sometimes. i know there are good things happening and i wish others would focus on those things more often, and make those headlines instead. i think it is important to remember that every moment is an opportunity to make the world a better place, no matter how small. science now shows this. also woundering if there has been any solar activity lately possibly linking my moods and other peoples.

Jenus
05-31-2011, 08:35 AM
i've always felt disconnected with this reality we live in. nowadays i just cannot relate with much of this fake world and feel like i have to put a mask on everyday and smile and wave. i think in my mind that there has got to be a lot of people that know about the "real reality", but, it just does not seem to be the case (excluding you guys/gals on this forum). as much as i want to displace myself from this reality, it will not happen. at the end of the day, i still have to live in this fake reality, still have to interact and do dealings until massive changes start to take place. so i try to enjoy myself and continue to do research everyday understanding karma and the power of light and love.

to break the ice with people; you have to start with the very basic principles. i tell people to questions the sources of anything before believing anything. they see on news and say; "did you hear what happened". instantaneously, you know this person is programmed and almost robotic. people are so polarized these days (which is by design). once people can wrap their hands around the fact that every system (almost every) is driven by separation of people, then they will understand they have been lied to for centuries about many many things. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the realization that government is not controlled by the representatives who are "elected" to enact laws on behalf of their constituents. it should not be a mystery that big corporations or "big money" i.e. elite powers, dictate the global economy. that is the first phase; for people to un-indoctrinate themselves from the controlling system they are trapped in and come to the realization that the system is a joke; then laugh at it.

it is at this very point, to begin to flirt with the idea that; may there is other non-earthly intelligent life forms in our universe. maybe those things that people see in the sky that they call "ufos" are not from this galaxy. i would say dimension as well, but that may be to deep. maybe the "ufos" that cannot be explained naturally and militarily are not anomalous and can be explained as other non-earthly intelligent life forms. this is very hard for most people to fathom as they cannot get around their fundamentalist religious perspectives. the reality of it is; is that most people cannot get passed phase 2 thinking. but the system has downplayed this reality through blacklisting, ridicule, etc. so it is almost a phase 1 issue.

to some it up, i still am baffled at the following questions (which most people that are in the state that i'm in are as well) .why am i here?, where am i going?, and what am i supposed to be doing?

this is where my research continues and david has really put the whole thing together for me, personally. david really has been able to tie all the knowledge complexities together for me. for me personally, him connected the dots dealing with the et / ufo issues. he made me want to watch the movie contact w/ jodie foster. i feel like i am addicted to youtube and the internet in my search for the truth. knowledge is like a drug that i cannot get enough of. ok, i guess i will get back to work, i have go to pay my bills!!

Vanya
05-31-2011, 12:03 PM
so how is everyone feeling today and the last few days? just curious cause i've been a bit depressed lately between personel issues and world events, woundering if its a phenomenon others are experiencing or just me. each day i try to hold posotive thoughts and keep a posotive outlook, i try to visualize the negative energies leaving the earth, but some days its just hard to concentrate and i get distracted easily. i still must have some sort of additction to "fear porn", everyday i view the icke headlines and sometimes its just to much, its to be expected but still, its disheartning sometimes. i know there are good things happening and i wish others would focus on those things more often, and make those headlines instead. i think it is important to remember that every moment is an opportunity to make the world a better place, no matter how small. science now shows this. also woundering if there has been any solar activity lately possibly linking my moods and other peoples.

hi
going through much of the same - personal vs collective.
my personal life is not too bad, though me and my family are about to switch continents - again. it's a bit stressful going through those motions yet again. (a bit wiser this time, though, and won't fall in to the traps we fell into last time...)

but the news headlines get me. i know, though, that this is part of my deeper karmic issues. i've even got it in my dna, coming from a family of political peace activists. my grandfather even tried this during and after ww2. he was part of the crew receiving the white buses after holocaust. he and my grandmother met in a youth peace camp in post war germany under the heading "we hate the nazis but not the germans".
my grandfather is still alive, still trying to communicate his message of peace. his problem is, basically, that he's a nerd. (a nerd of 93 years of age!) and quite a lousy communicator. so he doesn't come across to anyone much, outside of family, and we're pretty tired of him too.

but it lives on in me. a will to fight that darkness. it lives in all my family. we fight in very different ways, but we all fight so hard...
but i know the answer now, and it involves not fighting. it involves ignoring the darkness as well as you can and concentrating hard on the light.
to me this is quite difficult at times. and my grandfather is not pleased at all with me, and thinks i'm a fool. so i sort of ignore him too. but i can't ignore my dna. and it's hard to reprogram it. but i'm working on that.

i've also always felt disconnected from the rest of the world. am married to a guy with the same issues. which is probably why we move about so much - that feeling of disconnectedness.

Glothr
05-31-2011, 12:17 PM
a while back i was meditating in my computer chair and i got into a deep relaxation and felt immense peace. i also got an idea to open up a word processor and type down something. the following was what came through and i've read it over and over again when i feel any kind of sadness, anger, or any other negative (not to say bad) emotions. here it is:

"again we meet, brother. for we both were born of the same curiosity. we wanted to see sunrises and sunsets touch the waters of creation. we wanted to immerse our self in the source. the love and hate that ebbs and flows is only but experience that will hang in the records of time amongst the parchment of those lives past, present and future.

many things have been done in the name of our creator. the fallacy that persists is that these things are separate from the creator. for, brother, we know better than that. just as the tides of the vast oceans ebb and flow so to do the ages of man. wheels within wheels within wheels. this is time. we are here to experience ourselves and bask in the beauty that comes with existing without remembering our true nature.

it is not identity that we seek. for seeking implies losing. we have not lost, nor has anyone. there is only experience. we never truly forget or leave our true selves. we get feelings, intuitions, inklings in our lives. this is our higher self guiding us on our journey in this experience.

walk this road not with bare feet but with feet that are a part of the ground upon which you tread. you do not have to know the truth about the universe in this life. we become veiled on our own behalf to experience the creator in its many visages. this is the nature of us."

i honestly believe this was a message from my higher self. not channeling of another entity or anything. it holds a very powerful meaning to me personally and i thought i'd share it with you all to see if it helps anyone else. thanks.

l&l

Vanya
05-31-2011, 07:14 PM
beautiful!

Burton
06-02-2011, 12:28 PM
but i know the answer now, and it involves not fighting. it involves ignoring the darkness as well as you can and concentrating hard on the light.
to me this is quite difficult at times. and my grandfather is not pleased at all with me, and thinks i'm a fool. so i sort of ignore him too. but i can't ignore my dna. and it's hard to reprogram it. but i'm working on that.

i've also always felt disconnected from the rest of the world. am married to a guy with the same issues. which is probably why we move about so much - that feeling of disconnectedness.

i believe the bold word is where some of your problems might be stemming from. a reaction to the darkness with love is very powerful. not only does it stop any negative attempts at control due to the loss of polarity for the negative entity, it literally creates a more peaceful and harmonious universe around you. when you connect with that inner love for all of creation you offer a more peaceful place for other entities to experience catalyst. so it effects the negativity duple. this is the effect ra speaks of when they talk about wander's being "passive radiators of love" .

if you would like the scientific data that shows how your energy physically effects the universe around you check out nassim haramein. it's beautiful how his theories connect with the law of one.

p.s. i know the above can be very hard at times but it's not about some ideation of perfection, it's about learning about the self, along the path to reunification. all is well.

voidofsilence
06-04-2011, 05:08 PM
i believe the bold word is where some of your problems might be stemming from. a reaction to the darkness with love is very powerful. not only does it stop any negative attempts at control due to the loss of polarity for the negative entity, it literally creates a more peaceful and harmonious universe around you. when you connect with that inner love for all of creation you offer a more peaceful place for other entities to experience catalyst. so it effects the negativity duple. this is the effect ra speaks of when they talk about wander's being "passive radiators of love" .

if you would like the scientific data that shows how your energy physically effects the universe around you check out nassim haramein. it's beautiful how his theories connect with the law of one.

p.s. i know the above can be very hard at times but it's not about some ideation of perfection, it's about learning about the self, along the path to reunification. all is well.


i'm trying to grasp what your saying, but i think i am getting there slowly but surely. its been really really hard to focus the last few weeks. i really should follow some of this nassim haramein stuff you mentioned. sounds very interesting.

anyways about the polarities you mention. duality is crazy for me. i feel right in the middle and it confuses the hell out of me sometimes. what i am referring to is how i feel really attracted to dark subjects and especially dark music. i wonder if this is dragging me down in some way. can it be negative on me? that is perhaps the big important question.

see, i don't really see myself as this super nice, up front, harmonious, social, loving person. sure i value love and i understand its great potential, but do i attract it or am i attracting something much more negative?

the reason i wonder is that i have over the years become very obsessed with some of the most darkest music out there. a lot of it is just so amazing and it resonates very close with me. it just seems to offer so much more than other forms of music. as a musician it just feels so great to be a part of and the composition process can be very rewarding. i can't say i support every aspect of this music (some aspects can be very negative), but overall i carry forward and i try to focus on the greater good of it all.

still i am attracted to the beauty of darkness. the weird and strange world fascinates me beyond repair. suicidal black metal and funeral doom metal are some of my favorite forms of music. sure i listen to a lot of other stuff considered non-metal, but it is while listening to some of these styles of music that i often wonder about how it is all fitting together. i am aware that suicidal black metal probably isn't the greatest contribution to society (probably very bad in some ways), but for some people it gives them comfort and they are just attracted to it. this seems exactly how i feel about it. believe it or not, i am actually quite an optimist.

i actually really do hope to do something positive with my music. perhaps it is just something i will evolve into and eventually i will just end up transcending such dualities. maybe that is what i am doing already. can both darkness and light, or positivity and negativity be combined into something beautiful and harmonious? i am inclined to say.....why not?

or am i totally way off and lowering my vibration? who knows....

anyways sorry to ramble so much, but i feel this is a very important subject and i am very much right in the middle. any thoughts?

[on a side note, my band actually has a song dealing with law of one called "within the stones" about how ra talks about the creation of the pyramids regarding the consciousness of the stones].


thank you

-alex

Burton
06-05-2011, 06:56 AM
i'm trying to grasp what your saying, but i think i am getting there slowly but surely. its been really really hard to focus the last few weeks. i really should follow some of this nassim haramein stuff you mentioned. sounds very interesting.

anyways about the polarities you mention. duality is crazy for me. i feel right in the middle and it confuses the hell out of me sometimes. what i am referring to is how i feel really attracted to dark subjects and especially dark music. i wonder if this is dragging me down in some way. can it be negative on me? that is perhaps the big important question.

see, i don't really see myself as this super nice, up front, harmonious, social, loving person. sure i value love and i understand its great potential, but do i attract it or am i attracting something much more negative?

the reason i wonder is that i have over the years become very obsessed with some of the most darkest music out there. a lot of it is just so amazing and it resonates very close with me. it just seems to offer so much more than other forms of music. as a musician it just feels so great to be a part of and the composition process can be very rewarding. i can't say i support every aspect of this music (some aspects can be very negative), but overall i carry forward and i try to focus on the greater good of it all.

still i am attracted to the beauty of darkness. the weird and strange world fascinates me beyond repair. suicidal black metal and funeral doom metal are some of my favorite forms of music. sure i listen to a lot of other stuff considered non-metal, but it is while listening to some of these styles of music that i often wonder about how it is all fitting together. i am aware that suicidal black metal probably isn't the greatest contribution to society (probably very bad in some ways), but for some people it gives them comfort and they are just attracted to it. this seems exactly how i feel about it. believe it or not, i am actually quite an optimist.

i actually really do hope to do something positive with my music. perhaps it is just something i will evolve into and eventually i will just end up transcending such dualities. maybe that is what i am doing already. can both darkness and light, or positivity and negativity be combined into something beautiful and harmonious? i am inclined to say.....why not?

or am i totally way off and lowering my vibration? who knows....

anyways sorry to ramble so much, but i feel this is a very important subject and i am very much right in the middle. any thoughts?

[on a side note, my band actually has a song dealing with law of one called "within the stones" about how ra talks about the creation of the pyramids regarding the consciousness of the stones].


thank you

-alex

alex do you meditate? the above sounds like you are searching for external information about yourself. from my experience that will not provide you the answers you are looking for. i'll give you a quote from ra that pertains to the sts path but i feel it has some value for you at this time. (note i don't mean anything you are going through is negative or sts at all)

ra: i am ra. we can speak only in metaphor. some love the light. some love the darkness. it is a matter of the unique and infinitely various creator choosing and playing among its experiences as a child upon a picnic. some enjoy the picnic and find the sun beautiful, the food delicious, the games refreshing, and glow with the joy of creation. some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty, sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature. these enjoy a different picnic.

all these experiences are available. it is the free will of each entity which chooses the form of play, the form of pleasure.

the bolded specifically speaks to your worries/concerns. fear not that you "don't really see yourself as this super nice, up front, harmonious, social, loving person." we are unique and equal parts of creation. enjoy to the fullest every moment.

as a note between negative and positive. very few things have that innate value, by which i mean our thoughts/perceptions about the action performed distort the outcome. the only negative or sts thing is dominating/controlling others. it sounds to me like your music connects with you, and that is the most important thing. not some perceived societal value of the music you play. your personal connection. all is well, adonai.

barryvictor
06-05-2011, 09:09 AM
will try again for a response...are you really disconnected, or have you found yourself connected to a different source now? disconnected would imply no continuity to a source, and it seems to me that you have simply changed the source rather than disconnecting...if you get my drift here...perceptional differences can seem to be disconnections..."ahah!" moments shift one's focus...when the base of your neck buzzes with energy flow, then you have just encountered another energetic flow disimilar to your accustomed sensory inputs...when you begin to accept them as sensory inputs and metaphorically view them as you would when changing the channel on your tv, hd and all, then you have begun to experience the dimensional shift taking place within your realm...these changes are "real" in every sense of the word and history has plenty of examples of this taking place within the linear conceptualizations of human societies...your awareness will become more comfortable for you and you will begin to find ways to steer the conversation towards your perceptions with others who feel that same sensation, for birds of feather do flock together even within the "human experience" we find ourselves at the moment...just as you can awaken a second density pet for ascension, so can you awaken third density entities mind sets to a greater potentiality and creativity...let your mind wander...that is why you are here...

voidofsilence
06-06-2011, 06:19 PM
alex do you meditate? the above sounds like you are searching for external information about yourself. from my experience that will not provide you the answers you are looking for. i'll give you a quote from ra that pertains to the sts path but i feel it has some value for you at this time. (note i don't mean anything you are going through is negative or sts at all)

ra: i am ra. we can speak only in metaphor. some love the light. some love the darkness. it is a matter of the unique and infinitely various creator choosing and playing among its experiences as a child upon a picnic. some enjoy the picnic and find the sun beautiful, the food delicious, the games refreshing, and glow with the joy of creation. some find the night delicious, their picnic being pain, difficulty, sufferings of others, and the examination of the perversities of nature. these enjoy a different picnic.

all these experiences are available. it is the free will of each entity which chooses the form of play, the form of pleasure.

the bolded specifically speaks to your worries/concerns. fear not that you "don't really see yourself as this super nice, up front, harmonious, social, loving person." we are unique and equal parts of creation. enjoy to the fullest every moment.

as a note between negative and positive. very few things have that innate value, by which i mean our thoughts/perceptions about the action performed distort the outcome. the only negative or sts thing is dominating/controlling others. it sounds to me like your music connects with you, and that is the most important thing. not some perceived societal value of the music you play. your personal connection. all is well, adonai.

i really need to meditate. perhaps i should get out of the city and do so. i always seem very distracted. i have tons of killer mountains within 20 mins drive so seems like a good idea.

i really dig that law of one quote by the way. i have the first 3 books, but i have only read 1 so far. which book would that be from. thanks for your kind words everyone.

i definitely been trying to take a step back and view things a bit. i feel pretty positive about things, i just come from one of those weirder picnics it sounds like haha.

i need to be drinking more tea as well.

SunrisePony
11-19-2011, 03:04 PM
ok, question is in the title. i am curious if those of us here , if it's always kind of been one of those things for us more enlightened ones. wither it's a transition guide, a wanderer or any other one. it's been something i've struggled with my entire life, and really like i told my friend here on the forums. i've never felt more comfortable and "part of it" than i have when i finally joined in here. so i am curious if that's something that is just "normal" (as if there is even such a thing as normal ;) ) for those of us that are more aware, enlightened or conscious types. i came here looking for answers and i've found quite a lot of the answers i was looking for, and they've felt right.

bobobo262626
11-29-2011, 08:48 PM
i knows this is really off-topic. but i've been struggling a lot with social anxiety for a while now, i got kicked out of college for related reasons, i now have almost a year-ish to get myself back together and able to venture out onto the streets without freaking out. i've looked into one of david's series on youtube, i haven't seen a whole lot, but he's quite amazing and i admire him a whole lot. i'm gonna look into more but i figure this kinda thing is quite like the path i'd like to take to get over this useless and harmful fear i have around people. i don't exactly know why i am this way but i seem like i've always been like this. i really apologize for being really off-topic, i don't really know which other forum to post about this.

thanks.

SunrisePony
11-30-2011, 04:35 PM
maybe it's a natural inborn avoidance system for people with negative energy in them? i can't even bare being around people with negative energy in them, it literally makes me sick and i get similar feelings. and, as we go on this journey, all of us we will learn to avoid those with negative energy instinctively. also i would try looking at your diet, avoiding things like artificial sweeteners, fluoride, try to focus on as organic of a diet as possible. also a 5 htp supplement might help, it's the vegetable form of tryptophan which is the pre-curser to serotonin which is the neurotransmitter that affects things like anxiety etc. there are multiple different brands out there,so just chose which ever you can find or feel most drawn to. i generally recommend taking it two times a day 'vs' one, it seems to be more effective that way. and, this vegetable form is the best between it and regular tryptophan because it has the ability to cross the blood brain barrier in higher amounts.

Apophis
11-30-2011, 06:31 PM
bobobo what you talk about is not uncommon to the people here. often times when we choose to see a bigger picture it removes us from the little pictures most people are content to look at. and it is an easy solution you seek.

for myself, when i was isolated from society, it was hard to connect with people because it seemed like they could not see the same things i could. and this helped me to disconnect even more! so eventually i was flying so high above the clouds that even the great birds could not see me. that is until i realized one important thing. we are all the same.

every person has a unique view on life, but they are all the same in that they see life. they wouldn't have a view if they didn't.

it's actually taken me quite some time to recenter myself. and the only way i could find that center once again was to return to the thoughts of being the same as everyone else. i know it sounds weird but every person has a unique view, and every person has the center of life within them. it's not about who knows more about it or who is better at displaying it, no it comes directly from acknowledging another for having it.

if you have already come to this realization and can see the value of all other people in life, then it may be your armor that lacks strength. truly within every person there is a delicacy beyond touch, within this center is the connection to the creator. however, in our society here on earth there are people who strictly look to take advantage of that delicacy and keep it for their-own. this is why making physical, mental and emotional armor is necessary. many people on this planet do not realize how vulnerable they really are. it only takes one look at a television to realize how easily peoples emotions are steered and controlled. arm yourself so that you may fight the good fight.

most people on this forum have read the law of one series, and it talks much about our spiritual connection to all things, however it does not talk much about protecting the self from other self's. these are things we are destine to learn and use during our stay on this planet. we are here to harden ourselves, to temper our nerves, and to gain force within our soul. if people easily push you around, then begin collecting the things that give you the power to repel their attack. this world is not an easy one to live in. you were among the bravest of warriors, this has earned you the ticket to get here, now use what was given to become the warrior who is also wise.

good luck and gods speed.

-apophis

albie
12-14-2011, 03:58 AM
i find no deeper connection to things on this planet anymore, since learning the truth of reality. i have more of a connection to higher places - real or not. i often live in an abstract sense, staring at walls and feeling at home there. communing with a mathematical emptiness, i suppose. still part of us. from nothing to everything -that's us.

Apophis
12-14-2011, 10:16 PM
i find no deeper connection to things on this planet anymore, since learning the truth of reality. i have more of a connection to higher places - real or not. i often live in an abstract sense, staring at walls and feeling at home there. communing with a mathematical emptiness, i suppose. still part of us. from nothing to everything -that's us.

a part of me used to be like this, but then i realized i cannot eat thoughts.... so instead i learned what my thoughts were best applied to, and started to live a fun life.

Vanya
12-15-2011, 02:01 AM
i find no deeper connection to things on this planet anymore, since learning the truth of reality. i have more of a connection to higher places - real or not. i often live in an abstract sense, staring at walls and feeling at home there. communing with a mathematical emptiness, i suppose. still part of us. from nothing to everything -that's us.

from a song by madonna:
"nothing really matters
love is all we need
everything i give you
all comes back to me."

loosen up, buddy :-) there's nothing here to be taken seriously. then why the face? :-)
the truth will set you free. now you know the truth - it's like lucid dreaming. you've woken up inside a wierd and wonderful dream. it's time to figure out what is fun for you :-) you are the creator!
of course, you are free to create the "staring at the walls"-game. but is that all you really want? is that really your fullest potential? is that what makes your heart sing and your soul dance with joy? only you know the answers to that one :-) a connection is for you to create, if you want it. you can be from another star system. and then, when you come home after your touristy trip to terra - what photos will you be bringing home? what would you like to show your brothers and sisters when you meet them again in that blissful reunion? what's in your album when you return? will it be walls?

albie
12-15-2011, 05:24 AM
>>a part of me used to be like this, but then i realized i cannot eat thoughts.... so instead i learned what my thoughts were best applied to, and started to live a fun life.

not so easy for me as i seem to have someone else within me who doesn't like people. it's complicated, but he basically attacks people who get close. this other can use my voice box and say things to people that sound innocent to me, but later i realise were offensive. he also sees the future and plays little tricks like saying "here comes fatty" and then an over weight person will come walking into view. i've lost friends over this guy. i don't know who he is or if he's part of me that has split from the whole. i often wonder if he's the source of all the weird stuff that happens to me. and some very odd stuff has happened. i'm going to post an account of some of them soon. if i can drag myself away from playing skyrim. ;)

Apophis
12-16-2011, 12:31 AM
after thinking for a bit the first thoughts that came to mind were the associations with the mirror. there may be a disconnection with your image.

when you look in a mirror what do you see? a reflection? the image you see is not real, it is a reflection, yet it has come from you.

i believe we can show ourselves many faces in the mirror, but never forget that it is you projecting the image. when someone deeply denies that they are projecting the image they see it can cause a behavior we have termed as having a split personality.

to counter this one may accept that they are capable of behaving like that in order to heal and balance that self image.


on further analysis if this is not a psychological dis-order you may choose to search out things like exorcism or spiritual cleansing and releasing practices. i do not believe it's normal or healthy to hold onto the another separate point of awareness within you.

-apophis

Vanya
12-16-2011, 02:54 AM
fear-based beings within you? :-)
check out your "pact" with the thing. there's usually an agreement on the astral plane/in your aura somewhere. you really don't need to be a victim here. take action. if you need a "sword of disconnect from stupid being" +20, i can probably make one for you in the astral :-d -or you can make one yourself. not difficult /(it's all about intention). just remember to make and wear a "cloak of invisibility to disconnected stupid being" +25, so he doesn't come back to haunt you. those can also be found with st.mary, mother of jesus, in the astral planes somehwere. i don't think she charges anything for them :-) ask her, and she'll come with a cloak for you.

brainybetty
12-18-2011, 08:08 PM
for me, the disconnectedness = a better place i.e., less attachment and concern. this is a good thing. i find myself more and more wishing peace and harmony to all and just dropping away fear, anxiety anger and burdens. couldn't be happier about this.

absul
12-23-2011, 11:25 PM
i dunno, i just feel kindof like i'm floating by each day. maybe i'm just growing up more. its been a few years and now i'm getting tot he good stuff, feeling way happy and connected with the source but... still.... sometimes i just feel alone. i know i'm not ever alone, but i just keep praying and looking for signs that i'm in the right direction, and that hopefully i will one day meet some more people that i can talk to or go do things with. alot of my friends are still stuck in the old ways i've been trying to get rid of... drug use and all that. theres no need for drugs for me anymore.

i have also been praying and trying to draw positive spiritual people to me, trying to focus on getting a certain archetype of an older, wiser person to help guide me, maybe ive watched too many fantasy movies about apprentices and wise men..

even though today was sad i am fine. i'm excited about the new year. the holidays are just a confusion for the rest of the world and its easy to let that rub off onto me.

Natho
12-27-2011, 06:52 PM
i think in todays world it is very easy to feel like just another number in the system, lacking a defined purpose. i personally slip in and out of that reality, ive done this for so long now it has become my norm. ill see my friends once every so often, i dont like phones as i would rather a face to face conversation so i tend not to use them, bottom line my life is very quiet. in the sence of 'what you send out is what you recieve' then that is exactly what is happening here i have no doubts at all.

i knowingly create this gap between myself and the world from experience, and from it ive learned that i attract people with unusual characteristics and common views on life. as if one placed the dvd on repeat, im repeatedly challenged by this and left with the same outcome. if it werent for the information and spiritual awakening i had discovered, im not sure i would have survived the last few years.

and with that knowledge, i never truly feel alone in this world, perhaps only in my endevours on an individual basis, but thats natural. i believe if aquiring the knowledge would grant instant peace, then this would be too easy. which is amusing to me as i find that i tend to choose the easy path only to have it bend onto a dangerouse incline, and through it i feel a sence of karma at work. this is no suprise to me and i accept it through my actions. conciesness in fluctuation.

brainybetty may have made a path similar to mine out of reflex also, your not alone there. i miss finding real people, and i define real in this case as someone not fully integrated into the systems lifestyle that people grip onto so tightly as a foundation of salvation, its so limiting. i need a change of scenery.

rob_n86
01-03-2012, 07:03 PM
i feel i need to reach out right now and get my head and priorities straight. this is 2012, a big year. the beginning of 2011 i was feeling very spiritual, enlightened and on the right track. i had just discovered and read the loo series and it fits so perfect and confirms with all prior knowledge i gathered. it was jaw dropping to read information like that. i was eating healthy and balanced, organic foods, was cutting down on meat, taking my vitamins and supplements, and not only i but my girlfriend and her kid too. i had a plan to have a lot of money saved by now and moved out of maryland to where we wanted to be. at one point i even felt i had grown beyond fear and could create our (my family's) future with ease. i was trying to apply loo to every aspect of my life and to genuinely be a better person. i understood then that helping myself is ultimately helping everything. but things don't go as planned.

truth being, for 2 years now, i've been living the cheech and chong lifestyle, only i did it back wards, i made something out of my life first before getting in to that. why though? the easiest answer is that it eases the pain of the mundane and makes the simple things more enjoyable. i wont go as far as blaming it for the soul catalyst of later misfortunes in 2011, but it just may be so anyway. i also accrued debt in the beginning of 2011 (holidays, uhg) that eventually made paying rent difficult, along with my other "expenditure". i also lost the ability to buy 100% organic foods and became more inclined to junk foods. slowly, we stopped taking out vitamins and supplements too, despite the radiation scare we were preparing our bodies for as well (prunes, apples, iodine). because of all that, naturally depression sets in. i got months behind on some bills and started getting phone calls. my girlfriend and i slowly lost our inspiration and assertiveness for a better life. we had ambitious plans of me getting a new job out west and us moving in to a real house, plans we still have but have no idea on how to implement them. all of this simply leads to depression and the urge to simply smoke it all away and watch a movie or play a video game. this depression even caused some relationship and family issues. at the end of each day, all i can mumble to myself is "i'm smarter than this..."

i am left with the question "now what?" as of now we have stopped buying that stuff to get things back on track but have made no pledge to quit forever. we both feel it is the right thing to do at this point. and a side note, a claim is that it is not addictive, i disagree. when i look back in my life, there has always been something to fill my "void". in high school it was video games(n64). after that, in the air force, it was drinking (quite problematic at times) and world of warcraft. after that it was my new (current) girl friend and the days of endless fun new couples have. then it became the smoking after moving to maryland.

so now its 2012, i still have this void that needs filled, i have learned so much and i only need to apply it. i feel the void is only a symptom of a neurological and chemical imbalance. if i can re-kindle that energy my girlfriend and i shared in the beginning, and put it to good use this time, we can do anything. if i can stop the intake of potion and gm foods and eat healthy, balanced, organic foods, we can be healthy. another one of our biggest problems is a lack of any actual plan to set a catalyst in motion. sure we have ideas, goals, and dreams, but no idea on how to make any of them come true. and thus, that in conjunction with everything i have just described, has held me(us) in a pattern for 2 years with no catalyst of change. now it gets interesting, i seem to be able to justify everything in my head. i say i'm a wanderer anyway and i'm going home soon, none of this matters. i seem to think the geo-political structure of the world is going to change in the immediate future in a way for me to never worry about money or a job again, and would have civil liberties back. so that mentality perpetuates my laziness.

but it cant be like this anymore. in 2012 i want to wake up each day and feel genuine love for my life. i want to have a plan this year for a new job and moving. i want to no longer spend money recklessly. i want to eat and stay healthy. i want to be able to feel what its like to be genuinely happy while sober...most of all. i don't want material distractions. i don't want to fall heavily in to geo-politics again. i guess those ideas are a start for me.

please, if anyone has thoughts or advice, share them with me!

[mod note: may have posted twice by mistake, just delete it]

moonlightblue
01-03-2012, 07:51 PM
greetings everyone,
i have always felt different from most people and have remained somewhat emotionly isolated from others around me. simply because i felt "out of place" so to speak. i believe i had psychic abilities when i was a child but some of the entities i came into contact with were very negative. this scared me, and i think i somehow blocked my ability. i also didnt know really why these experiences were happening to me. i do remember not wanting to be here in this life and constantly praying to somehow be " moved" to another place.i also remember have obe as well.i was always worried i wouldnt be able to get back into my body though lol.pretty intense stuff for a 8 year old in my opinion.
anyhow, my family was a extremely dysfunctional one and as i got older, i became involved in bad company and made alot of bad decisions.i now carry around alot of hurt and issues as a result of my younger years.i have major issues trusting now.im now in my mid twenties and ive seen and experienced alot.i really want to deal with my issues.they are the only reason i cant evolve spiritually any further.
a doctor will prescribe anti depressants, but those will only block any creative and spiritual development.i know that! this is not what i want to do.i cannot heal on my own though.i need help.im sure of that! i dont know what my next step should be really.
i would appreciate some help or advice.

rob_n86
01-04-2012, 02:07 PM
greetings everyone,
i have always felt different from most people and have remained somewhat emotionly isolated from others around me. simply because i felt "out of place" so to speak. i believe i had psychic abilities when i was a child but some of the entities i came into contact with were very negative. this scared me, and i think i somehow blocked my ability. i also didnt know really why these experiences were happening to me. i do remember not wanting to be here in this life and constantly praying to somehow be " moved" to another place.i also remember have obe as well.i was always worried i wouldnt be able to get back into my body though lol.pretty intense stuff for a 8 year old in my opinion.
anyhow, my family was a extremely dysfunctional one and as i got older, i became involved in bad company and made alot of bad decisions.i now carry around alot of hurt and issues as a result of my younger years.i have major issues trusting now.im now in my mid twenties and ive seen and experienced alot.i really want to deal with my issues.they are the only reason i cant evolve spiritually any further.
a doctor will prescribe anti depressants, but those will only block any creative and spiritual development.i know that! this is not what i want to do.i cannot heal on my own though.i need help.im sure of that! i dont know what my next step should be really.
i would appreciate some help or advice.

my girlfriend holds a lot of hurt and issues from the past as well. she has trouble trusting people also. her "family" in my opinion, are not worthy of that title. both her mom and dad have passed, and that extended family is a mockery of what family should be, even her own brother and sister (half). she met up with bad company in early years and started on a life path on uncertainty and confusion. years later we ended up together and it has been a journey ever since. she has changed so much from when we first met. one of the first things we did was start eating better and getting the body back in to balance with vitamins and supplements via harmonic translation scans. prior she was pretty much living on hot pockets and ramen. that made a huge noticeable difference in mental and physical health over time. so if your not already, i suggest having a healthy diet, besides you can open your pineal that way too, which opens ever more spiritual doors! i'm probably not qualified to give much advice in coorelation with loo, but i can say karma. for a child to go through such difficult and tramatic times out of their control, as my girlfriend and you did, the only thing i can think of is paying off karmatic debt from a previous incarnation. what other reason is there for a child so go through years of misfortunes?

moonlightblue
01-04-2012, 03:54 PM
[quote=rob_n86;62970]my girlfriend holds a lot of hurt and issues from the past as well. she has trouble trusting people also. her "family" in my opinion, are not worthy of that title. both her mom and dad have passed, and that extended family is a mockery of what family should be, even her own brother and sister (half). she met up with bad company in early years and started on a life path on uncertainty and confusion. years later we ended up together and it has been a journey ever since. she has changed so much from when we first met. one of the first things we did was start eating better and getting the body back in to balance with vitamins and supplements via harmonic translation scans. prior she was pretty much living on hot pockets and ramen. that made a huge noticeable difference in mental and physical health over time. so if your not already, i suggest having a healthy diet, besides you can open your pineal that way too, which opens ever more spiritual doors! i'm probably not qualified to give much advice in coorelation with loo, but i can say karma. for a child to go through such difficult and tramatic times out of their control, as my girlfriend and you did, the only thing i can think of is paying off karmatic debt from a previous incarnation. what other reason is there for a child so go through years of misfortunes?[/quot

thankyou for youre advice rob. i eat a reasonably healthy. of course there is room for improvement. i have too much of a sweet tooth. so i will try and focus on my diet abit more. one thing that pops to my mind is i need to drink more water.i dont drink enough and i do know that water is also used in purification rituals, so maybe it would help to cleanse my body and get it back into balance abit.

regards chrissy

Vanya
01-06-2012, 02:25 AM
greetings everyone,
i have always felt different from most people and have remained somewhat emotionly isolated from others around me. simply because i felt "out of place" so to speak. i believe i had psychic abilities when i was a child but some of the entities i came into contact with were very negative. this scared me, and i think i somehow blocked my ability. i also didnt know really why these experiences were happening to me. i do remember not wanting to be here in this life and constantly praying to somehow be " moved" to another place.i also remember have obe as well.i was always worried i wouldnt be able to get back into my body though lol.pretty intense stuff for a 8 year old in my opinion.
anyhow, my family was a extremely dysfunctional one and as i got older, i became involved in bad company and made alot of bad decisions.i now carry around alot of hurt and issues as a result of my younger years.i have major issues trusting now.im now in my mid twenties and ive seen and experienced alot.i really want to deal with my issues.they are the only reason i cant evolve spiritually any further.
a doctor will prescribe anti depressants, but those will only block any creative and spiritual development.i know that! this is not what i want to do.i cannot heal on my own though.i need help.im sure of that! i dont know what my next step should be really.
i would appreciate some help or advice.

hello, moonlighblue
i can't by any means say i'm in your shoes - in this life.
but i have a friend i [helped] concerning just the same issues as you - especially the part about being clairvoyant as a child and being harassed by negative entities and then closing off and making decisions as a youngster he later regretted.
he and i worked a lot on an energy-level, untill we came to the core - which was that he, on a very high level of himself, had created this situation because he wanted to prove to himself he can start from scratch and reach master within one lifetime. from that knowledge he found peace with the darkness in his life, and could work from there on his own, in a tempo which was more relaxed and pleasant and didn't involve the giant mood swings he had been experiencing. he is still not all cleared up, but he's much more happy and comfortable within his own skin. he too had to work on his diet, and continued with martial arts. currently he is working as a school teacher with kids from difficult backgrounds, and doing a fantastic job.
-just to give you hope :-)

Kyle (the Sage) Mar
01-06-2012, 05:43 PM
lol it's good to see that many of us have this same problem, for a second i thought i might be going insane haha. the disconnected are connecting ;-) although i do feel more disconnected here on this physical plane, my spiritual connection to things have never felt stronger. i do place a higher importance on spirituality than i do on my current physical state, so i don't really mind the trade off.

gemlove
01-07-2012, 05:03 PM
hello moonlightblue,
as a child i had similar experience with negatives and a dysfunctional family setup, it is nice to know we are not alone :) i remember reading that some reiki workshops can teach how to remove negative entities and move them to a place where they can be healed, i may look into this to help move things along for me.

hello vanya,
it was very comforting to read what you had written, it is nice to find people who are not afraid of this kind of thing. i also liked the earlier post about the cloak of invisability, it made me think of harry potter, thanks. do you do long distance stuff? :)

hello sage,
i may know what you mean about finding it easier to feel more connected to the higher end of things, sometimes i think it would be easier to stay up there but i find more power in myself the more i connect with the earth, i find it brings more energy into my being. i quite like the word being, it makes me feel unity, reconnecting...om... ;0)

gemlove
01-09-2012, 01:22 PM
vanya, i just wanted to say i thought about what you wrote about your friend and it made sense to me. now when something comes up i am not sure about i can say not right now i am working on my core and i don't need any distractions, it seems to be working.

sage, i agree with you, some trade ins are worth it. i had some really nice white sage oil i used to dot about the place, sage smudge sticks are quite fun too, i have even got one of those feather fan things to waft the smoke about. i think some of my neighbours would think i am bonkers but it beats watching tv! hee hee!

Kyle (the Sage) Mar
01-09-2012, 09:46 PM
indeed one of the hardest things to do, is to use your catalysts in a positive learning sort of view. years on this planet have led me to the realization that catalysts are necessary even though i would like to believe otherwise. i feel strongly for those who have led a harder life, i pray you find that inner peace within yourselves, and once you find it, maybe you can show others how to obtain it too. i think we have an ample amount of learning materials available to help soothe ones' self and or loved ones. sadly this world is dualistic, meaning there is positive and negative. put aside our hate, make way for love. we do not need to get rid of the negative because it is a part of us. our energy centers for example; the red chakra may be the most dense part of our energy centers, but it is not the most important. even if we don't like it, it's still a part of us and should be loved and embraced like the rest. forgive yourself, i know we have all done things we regret, but holding on to your pain and sadness will not solve anything. once you've learned to truly forgive yourself, things will start to look up. maybe you shall find the courage to forgive others, even those whom you would have never thought you could forgive. acceptance of yourself will soothe the soul. yes maybe you're a little freaky or weird like the rest of us who made it here, but each and every one of us is unique, that's what makes us amazing. faith for me is important as well. could you imagine having a doctor, who had no confidence in himself? just know that everything you do, if practiced with forgiveness, acceptance and faith, will be helping to achieve your goals. this has been working for me, each morning i wake, i say ; i'm sorry, please forgive me. thank you, i love you. keeping these words in mind throughout my day has immensely increased positive energy flow, and when confronted with negative i will merely thank it and let it be on it's way. living a positive life should not be denied to anyone. love and light.

gemlove
01-10-2012, 05:39 PM
sage, i quite enjoy my base chakra qualities it is my sacral that plays up the most, my grandma had adrenal cancer so it maybe an inherited dna weakness and i guess we all have our favourite chakras but i would rather have them all perfectly balanced. i have found the energy centre behind the collar bone a pleasant sensation, i hear that is the souls longing centre and the tan tien is a good one for finding that inner kick ass! but more recently i have been finding my strength at my core, from there i find a comfortable backdrop so the world feels less dualistic, as in i can experience the negative but it isn't the be all and end all, infact it gives me the opportunity to watch some of the negative undo itself and i can remember how it got there in the first place...handy for future reference.
what you wrote about thank you i love you reminded me of a hawaiin children of the rainbow meditation i used to do: imagine that when you were created you were given a chalice of love and light, beautiful and bright, this is you. thank the creater for creating you. as time went on mistakes were made, some by you some by others, all forgivable ofcourse but they still got dropped into your chalice. each of these mistakes looks like a stone and it blots out the light, the more unforgiven stones the less light is experienced. each time you do the meditation you can take out one stone, look at the stone, whose face do you see? do they look sad? why? say sorry to them (but only once cos you don't wanna beat yourself up over it) and then say thank you i love you i love you thank you and repeat as many times until you can see them smiling back at you. i can't remember what to do with the stone, maybe imagine some idylic beach and leave it by the sea. i think in hawaii its aloha ahola ahola aloha instead of thank you i love you but i am not sure, i cant remember exactly. it is quite a good method, i will start doing that one again, maybe you could try it then you may not have to appologise for being alive every morning. it would probably work with attatched discarnates and shadows etc. might even work better than flushing them out, i may give it a go.

LightLeo
01-12-2012, 12:25 PM
i've felt lonely and disconnected in the past when it came to all of this but now whenever i get into a situation like i may start to feel that way i space out for a second and find that i can actually sense all of you at that moment dealing same things. this always puts a charge back in me because i know i am not alone even when i'm just doing day to day things. we are all connected and we are all "now" so when i deal with anything like this i know that when i hold the light in myself i hold it with all of you at that same moment.

gemlove
01-13-2012, 05:38 AM
my moon is in leo and what you wrote there is really sweet, perhaps a key to the whole spiritual loner/pack reality, thanks. however the kingdom from the kitchen sink, despite the pretty bubbles and warm flowing water, can be a shortfall to some extent. some hands need greater circles to recognise their full potentials, to see how far the light really travels! why else would we be here, on earth, at this time?