FUTURE lives

[Nomadess 2012]

aloha everyone,
i just thought of something. instead of being concerned so much with our past lives, is it possible to see our future lives? who am i going to be in my next life? i thought of that because i was thinking that after 2012 when everything changes and we live in a new paradigm of consciousness, i was lamenting that i won't be around in say, a hundred years to see it. but i probably will!!! i want to see who i will be next. will i have freed myself frmo my current relationship karma, all that ... is it possible to see? i have never even considered this possibility, is the weird thing. i'll google it. what do you guys think?

[C-JEAN]

hi nomadess.


. . .is it possible to see our future lives?. . .

i am new to this, but after reading "the ra material", there is one thing i am
sure about:
after this 3rd density life, we have 2 possibilities:
1 = come back to 3rd density, or,
2 = go up to 4th density.

only "we" can influence the outcome.
our "problem" is the 3rd density veil. . . b-)

blue skies.

[billybobbutterball]

aloha everyone,
i just thought of something. instead of being concerned so much with our past lives, is it possible to see our future lives? who am i going to be in my next life? i thought of that because i was thinking that after 2012 when everything changes and we live in a new paradigm of consciousness, i was lamenting that i won't be around in say, a hundred years to see it. but i probably will!!! i want to see who i will be next. will i have freed myself frmo my current relationship karma, all that ... is it possible to see? i have never even considered this possibility, is the weird thing. i'll google it. what do you guys think?

how ya doin' nomad? bbb on board here.

hmmm...yours is an interesting question that opens up a big can of worms. in 100 of 3-d years there are a couple of other options....one, if you are a wanderer, say from the 5th or 6th, you could be "home" (assuming that you didn't screw up here and got entangled in the 3rd quagmire...or lost major polarity and ended up in a negative 4th:eek:) or you might be in the earth's inner astral planes, say in the 3rd or 4th.

in the ra material we find out that we do receive help and guidance from our future 6th d self...however, the 6-d self is only sure that we will reach that point...but doesn't know the specific path that we will finally follow:confused:

there are probabilities, but the future is not set in stone. when we transition there is the job to figure out the consequences resulting from our 3-d experience...only then is the particular plan set for the next episode. to really confuse matters there is the concept of multitude life plans on different time lines...and since time exists only so things don't seem to happen at once....all this is going on outside the particular illusion of time as we think we know it.

as i write it gets more more outrageously complex

my suggestion is, forget it, and get on with the mundane job of living in the here and now!:)

warning! all that i've written above is mere speculation, based upon my knowing just enough to be dangerous.

best, bill g., aka billybobbutterball ( note: don't be fooled by that wishy washy name -- hey! us'n butterball's are capable of doin' big-time harm!:eek:)

[Truth180]

i think it is interesting of our higher selves as our future selves. some think of it this way to.

[mmariebored]

aloha everyone,
i just thought of something. instead of being concerned so much with our past lives, is it possible to see our future lives? who am i going to be in my next life? i thought of that because i was thinking that after 2012 when everything changes and we live in a new paradigm of consciousness, i was lamenting that i won't be around in say, a hundred years to see it. but i probably will!!! i want to see who i will be next. will i have freed myself frmo my current relationship karma, all that ... is it possible to see? i have never even considered this possibility, is the weird thing. i'll google it. what do you guys think?
looking backward and forward is essential for having rounded, dimensional thinking, but you have an awesome point about being 'concerned with' the future ones. the future ones are often ignored, as you said, but they're important in the way that setting up goals for yourself is important.
so, thinking about them is like thinking about what you should be doing in the present in order to get there in the future. though, i believe that if you're at this point in your life, where you're questioning about these things, you're probably listening more repectfully to your guides and the only thing you should be concerned with is being happy, loving and having fun with the rest of this life. fear and worry suck the life out of you. pay the happiness and love forward as much as possible, i remind myself of that daily.

i've seen my own self in a 'future light'. it always helps the present when you get to the point where you have that future vision. the best way is to pay very close attention to dreams, write them down. when you write them down, more come, a lot more. it's like your 'soul' sees that you're finally paying attention to it so it speaks up louder and clearer.

[Nomadess 2012]

aloha,
in response to bbb's post ... seeing our future lives would totally open a can of worms, wouldn't it??? if i could see a future self of mine, just the very act of having observed it would change it, wouldn't it? as well as change me, the current me, here. but i could see what more i need to learn or do in this life, but then that would change (again) who i would be in the future ... like which came first, the chicken or the egg?

does anyone else here ever wonder, "what is the point to it all?" i know we are here to learn some lesson we chose for ourselves to learn, and to move on, but really, what's the point?? to live fully in the love vibration instead of the fear, but again, i ask ... so???

in response to mmariebored, thanks for the advice, i have been known to write my dreams a lot, and they come true later, most of them. or i'll dream about something while it is happening, like gaza. lately i have also had this dream a couple times about talking about projecting one's self millions of years into the future (to one's higher self) in order to heal one's self in this life. so, for some reason, i guess i'm inclined lately to want to look into the future. hmm. what does it all mean?!?!?

[FooSnik]

according to nostradamus, in dolores cannon's books "conversations with nostradamus", he says that none of his prophesies were false, but if they do not come to pass in our time line then we managed to avoid it. he recorded the worst scenes that he saw in all the possible futures as a warning to humankind that this is what could happen if we aren't careful. so the moral of that story is that the future is probable.

and we all have separate probable individual destinies as well. each time we make a decision the opposite decision we did not make branches off into a parallel time line. all the choices we have ever made or ever could make all exist simultaneously in a giant tangled ball of time lines. imagine how many possibilities that is. billions of people all making decisions and creating parallel time lines and all interweaving with each other. god is brilliant.

i bet you are thinking to yourself now, "i am sorry i asked". lol

and like bbb said, this is what i have read in my own studies. but really, your guess is as good as mine.

[aqcheryl]

aloha everyone,
i just thought of something. instead of being concerned so much with our past lives, is it possible to see our future lives?


you have to look at the past to become the future - be concerned with the past to heal and grow - in order to learn from past mistakes and avoid repeating them. then the future will be set positively for us, and we dont need to be concerned for them.

as far as being interested in the future lives though - personally im not lol
im interested in the future of my current incarnation, and moving into a higher density, but as far as future incarnations im not. ill get to those when i get to them. its like one big surprise hehe

[conundrum]

im interested in the future of my current incarnation, and moving into a higher density, but as far as future incarnations im not. ill get to those when i get to them. its like one big surprise hehe


yeah i agree i cant wait :eek:

[mmariebored]

does anyone else here ever wonder, "what is the point to it all?" i know we are here to learn some lesson we chose for ourselves to learn, and to move on, but really, what's the point?? to live fully in the love vibration instead of the fear, but again, i ask ... so???
i remember that frustrating point in my own journey, the "what's the whole point" point. it's a question that, to my knowledge, has never been answered, so i stopped asking. i mean, sure, everyone has their opinion...do you really want a list of everyone's opinion of what the point is? sometimes it just feels good to know other people have been there too, and still are, in one way or another.


in response to mmariebored, thanks for the advice, i have been known to write my dreams a lot, and they come true later, most of them. or i'll dream about something while it is happening, like gaza. lately i have also had this dream a couple times about talking about projecting one's self millions of years into the future (to one's higher self) in order to heal one's self in this life. so, for some reason, i guess i'm inclined lately to want to look into the future. hmm. what does it all mean?!?!?
i didn't mean to give you advice you already knew, it was also for anyone reading who may not have known(there are so many shy people who read but don't post, you know). sometimes dreams are just for fun and mean nothing but just that. fun. i had a dream the other night that me and a friend(no clue who the person was) were riding a huge dinosaur type creature. it had light, yellowish skin that melded into light pinkish, peach at the edges. what could that dream have possibly meant? it truly felt like i was in another world, just before waking up. i don't know if it will have some significance later, but for now it seems to be telling me to lighten up and enjoy life, because there's so much more to come, in this world and many more.

[eagleye]

also let us not forget that in the overall spectrum of things, according to ra and other reliable channels from higher forms of our selves, we do not exist only as the finite individual selves that we perceive ourselves to be in the interface of space/time or time/space. in actuality we are a kind of distortion of an infinite intelligence. that means we, you, and me are everyone and everything at the same time.

the eventuality for every single one of us here today is that of returning to the infinite knowledge and perception of the creator. we are and always have been one consciousness that has fooled itself, through willful forgetfulness, into believing that it has limitation. this illusion of limitation allows the one consciousness to experience separation as an infinite number of possibilities. this consciousness, which is us, is what creates the vibrations and the different levels of the octave. without these vibrations the illusion would break down and everyone and everything would return to oneness. without the illusion there would be no experiences, no people, places, or things, just an unfocused infinite intelligence that is content with itself to be aware.

part of the awakening process is to realize that we are all one, that we are not just the ego self. we are all different versions of the creator and contribute to the experience of infinity. we are each unique in our experiences. therefore our purpose in being separated in this illusion is simply to have the experiences we have. ‘we are here to live in the moment and be who we are’. each moment that each one of us experiences is a unique expression of the creator. without it the creator would be lacking in its experience of itself.

when all of this is taken into consideration we can begin to understand that what we are thinking of as our past self and future self is all relative to how we look at it. they are really one and the same because they share the same consciousness. this can equally be said of parallel selves in different timelines. these are versions of ourselves that made different choices and therefore events proceeded in a different way and created different outcomes of experience for those versions of us.

it is only confusing if we do not grasp the point that the person we perceive ourselves to be at this moment is not who we really are. the conscious ego is only a distortion of our true self and is one of an infinite number of versions of expression that we have created to experience infinity. our problem is that we do not remember what it is like to be outside of time. time is another illusion created by us to experience separation. the undistorted perception of the creator can see past it and is able to experience itself as all that is in one infinitely fast moment. your last future self is the creator and your oldest past self is also the creator. :)

[Nomadess 2012]

i guess my problem is that i just want answers to everything. now. ha ha!! mmariebored, where you said "i didn't mean to give you advice you already knew" ... no, i really appreciated your advice. i didn't mean to sound like i know it all because i obviously don't!

as far as the whole question of "what's the point?" i fluctuate on that. i don't feel like that all the time, usually i'm happy and see the positive side of everything. it's the whole polarity thing: "everything is awesome" / "what's the point to anything?"

speaking of future time lines, foosnik said that nostradamus said we managed to avoid certain timelines. i was just reading about that yesterday on the project camelot website. according to one time line, hillary was supposed to be president, but we managed to avoid that. time lines all have to do with the state of mind of the collective consciousness -- my conclusion. with that, it should be easy to predict the future??

anyway, perhaps meditating is a way to see our higher or future selves. (originally when i posted the question, i wasn't thinking of my future self in a higher dimension, necessarily, but my future earth life, another 3d human incarnation, just out of curiosity). i don't know why i've gotten stuck on the future selves thing; must be for a reason ...

[FooSnik]

speaking of future time lines, foosnik said that nostradamus said we managed to avoid certain timelines. i was just reading about that yesterday on the project camelot website. according to one time line, hillary was supposed to be president, but we managed to avoid that. time lines all have to do with the state of mind of the collective consciousness -- my conclusion. with that, it should be easy to predict the future??



sure!

who said it had to be hard??

heehee

[billybobbutterball]

[quote=nomadess 2012;48201]aloha,
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does anyone else here ever wonder, "what is the point to it all?" i know we are here to learn some lesson we chose for ourselves to learn, and to move on, but really, what's the point?? to live fully in the love vibration instead of the fear, but again, i ask ... so???

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hi, nomadess

the answer to the question "why are we here?" is found th the ra philosophy of religion expounded in the four main books of the ra material.

we are aspects of the one creator, with our job description being that of exploring all the potentialities to be found in the cosmos, i.e., literally the "body' of the one creator. keep in mind though that the creator is the cosmos, but the cosmos is not "god" since the total reality of god is greater than the sum of its parts. (imminent and transcendent)

this concept is radically different from orthodox christianity, which is that god knows all there is to know, etc. and that humans are not any part of god but merely ex nihilo (out of nothing) created beings trying to be good --and failing miserably (with not much apparent purpose for such superfluous beings to justify their creation -- that i can see) anyway,

according to the planetary social memory complex, the ra, all is one...we are only apparently separate creations -- but in reality we are all one with the all ...and of course, the cosmos is one with the creator who generated it out of its own beingness...the bottom line is that the makeup of the cosmos consists of variations in the grade of intelligent infinity.

another interesting sideline is that in being aspects of the all we cannot be lost since god doesn't let parts fall off and go astray forever missing ...eventually, all is reconciled to the prime creator.

the way the one creator knows all...is because you and i --and every sentient being -- are the tools of knowledge used in gathering all this data

note: the plan of the creation is that of obtaining knowledge/wisdom through the experience of diversity within unity.....i.e., individuals/humanity.

yawn... it is getting pretty late and my fingers can't transpose all these looming, profound thoughts stirring in my brain...so that is my excuse for the above being virtually unreadable...:o

sleep tight, say hello to the sun in the morning (who is our dedicated sub logi, that put our local show together.):)

i hope this helps...what doesn't, just ignore. but for heavens sake,find some little bit helpful in order to justify all the convoluted writing!:d

luv! billybobbutterbrain

[mmariebored]

speaking of future time lines, foosnik said that nostradamus said we managed to avoid certain timelines. i was just reading about that yesterday on the project camelot website. according to one time line, hillary was supposed to be president, but we managed to avoid that. time lines all have to do with the state of mind of the collective consciousness -- my conclusion. with that, it should be easy to predict the future??

all old-time "prophets", such as nostradamus, had correct predictions and also ones that didn't happen. no one should ever assume that their predictions are going to be the correct ones, even if they match other people's. because i believe there are many negative entities wandering about, planting "predictions" that sync with many other people, in an attempt to create those situations. i've always felt this way. even predominantly positive people can get a bad feed.

the "collective consciousness" is what will be the driving force that improves this whole planet. many people on this planet are crying out for help and change from their horrible situations, while only a few enjoy prosperity. imbalances are always fixed, when there's a great crying out. this is why i believe that the negative elites on the planet wanted to breed and brainwash people into enjoying slavery, while they themselves enjoyed great wealth and longevity. but, unlike long ago, the people have access to information that spans the globe. this gave us a rounded picture of everything going on, and we didn't like it. plans have been halted and new roads have been paved.
the road i see ahead is a glorious one, far different than the "timeline" that predicted so much doom.

[Nomadess 2012]

it is only confusing if we do not grasp the point that the person we perceive ourselves to be at this moment is not who we really are.

true. i think that's why i wonder so much who my soul will choose to reincarnate as in the future, just out of curiosity. why did i choose the current me? don't get me wrong, the current me is awesome ... ha ha

just boggles the mind ...

[Nomadess 2012]

the answer to the question "why are we here?" is found th the ra philosophy of religion expounded in the four main books of the ra material.


i have not yet delved into the ra material ... i guess i better, if it answers the one question that irks every soul on this planet !!!

[FooSnik]

sure!

who said it had to be hard??

heehee

all possibilities already exist. so what a profit does is accurately guess which choice the collective is gonna make.

what nostradamus did is lay out the worst case scenario.

[Nomadess 2012]

the road i see ahead is a glorious one, far different than the "timeline" that predicted so much doom.

i agree mmariebored!