Dismantling our defences

[Deambor]

hi, everyone.

there is a great deliberation from q'uo from last year in response to the question, the essense of which was how to be closer to infinity.

here what they said:

there is no definitive answer to your query because for some infinity is very close and near at hand and indeed can be heard in the ear as the whistle of the wind or the cry of the eagle. for others, it is all or nothing. for some it takes a tremendous wrench of some kind to knock away the defenses of the surface life.

if you would bring infinity closer to you then, we would encourage you to look to your defenses and begin to dismantle them straightaway. what is a defense? the heart, my brother, is often heavily defended. you were speaking in the round-robin discussion earlier of how you felt that your heart was more open with the one known as v because there was no longer a tension concerning a personal issue between you. it had been resolved. all was understood. and consequently you were both freed of the dynamic of unmade decisions, knowing precisely where you stand with each other; knowing that love cannot be defined by the relationship one has in the world. you have both found your love to take wing and expand.

in order for you to gain this happy experience, there was a tremendous amount of dismantling of defenses that were in place, not only on your part but also on the part of the one known as v. it was through times of discussion, times of grieving, and times of tears that you came to this place between you which now does not have expectations. there is nothing that is pulling on you. nor is anything pulling on the one known as v. the only consideration between you now is the enjoyment of companionship.

think of all that work that you did in your emotions, in your linear logical mind, in your heart of hearts, and on your knees in the depths of prayer, to attain a seemingly happy and carefree place. so it is when one reckons with how one’s heart has become defended.

one way to defend the heart is through the dogma of a codified religion. one places one’s heart in the structure of a religion and as long as one’s heart stays true to the tenets of that particular system of dogma, one is safe.

another way that the heart can be defended is with anger and resentment, which builds concrete walls about the heart in order that it shall not be harmed again. many years may go into the building of these walls. how can they be taken down? the world is a dangerous place.

another way that the heart may be defended is in fear. what if the world, no matter how kindly or pleasant, seems a crazy place, a lunatic asylum, a place of chaos, where nothing makes sense? many sensitive entities who walk the streets and try to live the life of planet earth have a bone-deep fear of this place called earth. and the defenses of their hearts are well-nigh unbreachable.

it’s the work of a lifetime for some to become undefended and then to feel comfortable without the customary defenses. yet it is exactly this lack of defenses that allow infinity to come close. indeed, in this instrument’s experience it has many times slipped in and taken over the moment or the hour or the day. this instrument brought with it the gift of being undefended and although it loses that gift from time to time, it is easier for this instrument to pick it up than most.

perhaps it may aid in working with bringing this gateway into the daily experience to think at all times that you have a choice of which way to look at a situation. you can look at it from the level of space/time, linear time, measurable, weighty space, or, by a decision within your mind, you can look at precisely the same moment from the position of time/space, seeing all as perfect, all occurrences converging in a circular manner into you from the past, from the present and from the future, so that you find yourself to be a node exquisitely poised between space/time and time/space.

let your spiritual practice include that visualization and perhaps you shall soon find yourself falling into eternity and infinity with a great feeling of surprise and delight.

this resonates with me very strongly. i sensed all along that our 'defence' is a problem, or even self-destructive. i started to work on de-defencing myself some years ago, and remarkably, i find that less defence truly results in more freedom, more confidence etc. also confirmed in ra materials through the story of mars - remember how they created "perfect defence" and later fell victim to its own device?

love needs no defence.

would be interesting what others on the forum think of that and how do you go about your defences?

love to all

deambor

[Deerclan]

deambor, nicely put.

i agree with what you say about defenses, but i have been down a long hard road taking my walls down, and i still don't think i'm finished yet. emotional defenses can be complex things, with many locks and many keys to find to unlock them. i have come to believe that those really thick complex defenses are held up by a foundation of wrong thinking, very much like stargirl wrote about. speaking really personally here, i went through a painful and scary injury at a very young age. based on that incident, i drew some conclusions about the safety of living in the real world and trusting other people at so young an age that i couldn't remember having drawn those conclusions. the fear that gets locked into that defense matrix is that "if anybody even sees that i am living in an emotional barricade, that puts me in great danger!" which of course is not true - it's a child's level of thinking.

mainstream therapists just don't have much to offer in such scenarios. there are a few avant-garde methods, like emdr, but last time i checked they were controversial.

my opinion right now is that the most important ingredient one needs is simply courage to let down the walls far enough so that you yourself can see what's going on down there at your own emotional and mental foundations. from there, it's possible to use spiritual affirmations, like, "the creator in me reveals to me the origins and causes of my emotional defenses." then be ready to take a look at some errors in thinking & other things it would be easier not to look at.

i've heard a lot of people who seem to claim that all it takes is a willingness to let go. that may be true for them. it might not be true for another person who had their head busted open as a toddler. i have heard an awful lot of childlike wishful thinking offered up as spiritual wisdom, but that was generally from people whose stance seemed to be, "it's easy! just do it my way!" such wishful thinking really bothers me, because i believe it damages people to promise an easy way out that really does not exist. spiritual growth is hard work - if you don't believe it, think about a butterfly working her way out of her cocoon, or a chick pecking her way out of an egg. an "easy fix" is worth about as much effort as you put into it.

on the other hand, i have found that genuine growth tends to be contagious. i like to say that good health is more contagious than ill health. feeling the power of the creator at work within you is an incredible experience. if some people get there easily, hey, i'm all for it. but experience does not tell me that's how it usually works. we all like to look up to david, for instance, but if you read his biography by wynn free, you'll find that david shoveled a lot of mental rocks and hauled a lot of emotional coal on his way to a place where he could offer help to us peons down here at basement level. :) that's a big part of my trust and respect for david -- i don't see him sugar-coating the path.

i wish it were as easy to dismantle defenses as it is to say it. i'm right with you as far as its importance, though. again, deambor, nicely put.

[Blacksunshine]

it takes so much understanding and dedication to be able to actually release all of your defenses. much practice as well. as humans, taught in the way that we are from our young age, certainly dosn't help with being able to release our defenses.

often time when i sit in my defensive and somtimes to be honest quite ticked-off moment...i tell myself, erin, this is completelly stupid, and i cant even fully understand why i'm being so bothered by something that with in the course of earthly moments will pass right by.

now, for the most part i'm a happy go luck doer. i"m just happy doing, whatever, when ever. but there are those occasions, when all the sudden you have that human reaction of what i call "being the side walk" this is the all doing, but seemingly rarely receiving, which becomes....well tiring. but i know all this is a mind frame, and a perspective, that usually comes back and bites me in the backside. i also, at times find it gratifying to fall all the array of emotions, as to be human, and always at the capability of understanding where all people come (excluding the few that i will prolly never understand due to our differences.) including myself. so i dont know, i find it hard to belive that i will (in this existance) ever be able to reach the point of which you speak, only becuase i do find emotions quite entertaining....either that or i'm misunderstanding what it is you are saying.

blessed by

[Deambor]

i agree with both of you, folks. it's darn hard to live defenseless life, or we all would have been christ or some such entity. also i notice, like in anything else, it's not a linear thing - there are periods of less defense/more openness, more defense/less openness. i also realize from my personal experience - it's part of our 'program' here in 3d earth, part of 'growing up', of course.

i went to a healer once, a powerful guy. when he touches you, he can tell where you are hurting - he literally 'feels your pain'. so he touched a couple spots on my back and said 'ah, many years of defences you built up here - all energy flow is blocked'. and it's true - i know it - by building up the defence i build up blockages in my system, so to speak. it's like with war on terror doctrine - 'security' has its 'price'. i feel that a simple realization that fear feeds the defences is already a good start.

thank you both for responding, and sorry for the late response - ijust figured oput that this thread has been moved to general discussions from loo.

love to you

deambor

[Mozart]

... talking about dismantling the dept of defense, dod, of the us ...


... or of the ministry of defence, mod, of the uk, given your spelling of "defence" ...


well, hey, those too! soddy mods 'n dods!


it would not surprise me to see that the public means/methods of defense/defence reflects the inner walls of defense that we build in our own, personal lives.

[Deambor]

hi, mozart.

sorry for the confusion.
so spelling does matter sometimes, or does it really? i just used q'uo's spelling (although q'uo doesn't spell - transcribers do)
truly internal defences and national defenses must be linked, i agree. this makes sense.