Steven Greer is he still around or what ?

[conundrum]

hey can some one tell me what has become of steven greer and his disclosure project ?
i watched his ufo video with all these apparently credible witnesses coming forward ect ready to front the government then it goes dead.

did any thing become of it or is the world still not ready for it ? all those critters flying around in space and around us on earth and all you need to see them is an infrared camera modified for day time usage .

maybe it was just some kind of social scientist project set up to see how gullible the human population still is and if it was what were the results are we still as dumb as ever ?
or do we need more poison added to our food and water supply to dumb us down some more.

[Gort]

i believe that dr. greer is focusing on the orion project and hopes to make free energy a reality and available. i haven't heard too much, but he is still doing speaking engagements.

[metaman]

he has started an a company that is to run security for those who develop free energy devices. go on google video, when you type his name in the search you can have the vids sorted by date. that way you can see the most recent ones.

[MindOverEverything]

yes! he is still around and this is his website: http://www.theorionproject.org/en/index.html

if that's not allowed, then google "the orion project" and you will find the site.

[BJ ∞ Living in the Now]

yes,
dr steven greer is running the orion project, by my belief as well. i know he has a radio show twice a month on the world puja network. [please pm for link]

namaste~
bj

[Berry Chastain]

i just came across this item as regards a proposal to the president of usa regarding the possibility of developing a new energy source that costs basically nothing and produces no pollution, it is called zero point energy. i wish to present this to the forum because the link below is an open invitation to the president of usa and congress to at least consider the option. in the past such possible solutions have been buried by by the current energy providers because it could destroy their monoply in the market place. many of us are familiar with the contents but should be prepared to reserve our conclusions regarding the viability even if it means that we may have to alter our views regarding what we have been told by scientists especially the ones that are more concerned with upholding the ' status quo' and are not even prepared to examine the evidence.

http://www.theorionproject.org/energy.pdf

[mikron]

head over to world puja network you can hear new programs every week of him

[billybobbutterball]

hi, berry, your comment about zero point being a new source of energy gave me a grin :d as a matter of fact, even cute little permanent refrigirator magnets tap into the "seething" power of the "physical vacuum"... russian researcher's astonishing 'take' on what they call the physical vacuum can be found in david's scientific material here on site.

incidentally, the boy genius, nasim harramien (sp), makes the point that the little itty bits of matter whirling around in space -- which we call planets and suns -- are mere byproducts of the real underlying cosmos --which for some reason appears to us as "emptiness". :cool:

even worse, according to the aforementioned guy with strange name, a microscopic bit of emptiness has enough potential energy to recreate the whole assortment of physical things we think of as the cosmos!! maybe he has it wrong...but then again, the nobel prize winner richard feynman, once said that a teacup full of what we consider nothingness has enough potential power to boil away all the seas of earth! wow!:eek:

hmmm...where does intelligent infinity reside? you probably guessed it!

may the emptiness in our hearts be filled -- with even more emtiness!:p

billybobmindboggled




i just came across this item as regards a proposal to the president of usa regarding the possibility of developing a new energy source that costs basically nothing and produces no pollution, it is called zero point energy. to examine the evidence.

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http://www.theorionproject.org/energy.pdf

[darth_rothscum]

hey can some one tell me what has become of steven greer and his disclosure project ?
i watched his ufo video with all these apparently credible witnesses coming forward ect ready to front the government then it goes dead.

did any thing become of it or is the world still not ready for it ? all those critters flying around in space and around us on earth and all you need to see them is an infrared camera modified for day time usage .

maybe it was just some kind of social scientist project set up to see how gullible the human population still is and if it was what were the results are we still as dumb as ever ?
or do we need more poison added to our food and water supply to dumb us down some more.

hi conundrum,

yup, the good doc is still around. project camelot will meet him at the upcoming zurich conference (i think david will also be there ... i think they should have a 3-way futuretalk ... and maybe even a 4-party talk with richard hoagland if he shows up).

dr. greer has a show on the world puja network [please pm for link]. signing up is free and a quick 1 step process that's effective immediately. click on the 'broadcasts' tab in the menu at the top, and then select 'archives.' you'll be taken to a page with all the hosts and on-air personalities; click on dr. greer's photo and you'll see his shows pop up. he has a new show about once ever 2 weeks!

enjoy!!

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hi

he just wrote a book [please email transiten for book name] about his spiritual awkening after having a near-death experience as a youngster. also listened to a recent radioshow where he told of his lifestory.

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[Rebecca]

an on-camera interview with steven greer is probably taking place right now by bill & kerry. this could be quite interesting because, according to bill, ". . . he is stating to the world that the secret government has no ongoing dealings with any et races -- the worst kind of disinfo." hmmm

[AllegedSatellite]

several comments made by project camelot in the last 24 hours on their blog leads me to believe they are being used.

the latest, as of this posting, is of several dozen people attempting to take the stage at the end of the show claiming that dr. greer had threatened them. sounds like a third party is trying to prevent dr. greer and inventors from getting together, one or both of them is very close to getting the solution out.

the drama in the last day or so shows me the cabal is crumbling at this very moment and blatant disinformation and attacks are being used to create division between those wanting to get the truth and the technologies out and those that have it. the death threats are at an all time high for dr. greer according to his presentations this month.

just as david has said, the cabal and secret control groups are crumbing and gasping their last breaths. the game is already over. i welcome all those caught up in this silliness to the love and light of the new world emerging! :)

[Patracia]

several comments made by project camelot in the last 24 hours on their blog leads me to believe they are being used.

the latest, as of this posting, is of several dozen people attempting to take the stage at the end of the show claiming that dr. greer had threatened them. sounds like a third party is trying to prevent dr. greer and inventors from getting together, one or both of them is very close to getting the solution out.

the drama in the last day or so shows me the cabal is crumbling at this very moment and blatant disinformation and attacks are being used to create division between those wanting to get the truth and the technologies out and those that have it. the death threats are at an all time high for dr. greer according to his presentations this month.

just as david has said, the cabal and secret control groups are crumbing and gasping their last breaths. the game is already over. i welcome all those caught up in this silliness to the love and light of the new world emerging! :)

there is new info on the pc site right now, just as it was yesterday almost by the minute......what a breathtaking story to follow...
well, they seem to have worked it out, speaking with all parties involved in the 'drama'......there was a lot of (cultural) misunderstanding going on...

it's about high time all of us learn to get and stay into a higher state of consciousness, i guess......as it seems our emotions, reactions and conclusions that spring from our normal fear-based/seperate consciousness may well blow things up unintendedly......playing into the hands of the sts people who laugh at how easily we are being able to be manipulated, taken advantage of and so on....

for me personally, staying securely at home and just reading about the events unfolding it was a superb way of training myself to staying focused, not going into any preconceived ideas about what was going on but trying to feel my way through the whole story....whether it was really an attack on dr. greer from the dark faction or not, whether i trusted his message or not (am just in the process of reading his book, what a coincidence...;)..) and what my conclusions (not fear-based projections) were......

wonderful training area that was!

wishing you all a wonderful week!

patracia

[Indigoboy]

did anyone see this dr. steven greer presents "contact & disclosure: the final sequence" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oljnfs_rm)?

[bobfitz]

yes, i have seen his final sequence video and i think it's interesting.

greer has been encouraging people to support his call for disclosure and claims that he provided obama everything he needs to take control of this issue in a "special presidential briefing" dated jan, 2009.

if you have not seen any of this, it's worth checking out:
http://www.disclosureproject.org/emailupdateoctober242009.htm

i don't know how much stock to put into groups like disclosure project, cseti, and prg. they are openly challenging the president, congress, and the mainstream press to take disclosure seriously (which i view as a good thing).

i cannot say if greer's intentions are pure or if he is being used as a pawn. but then, i cannot speak for what is inside of another heart.

[hazyjane]

i cannot say if greer's intentions are pure or if he is being used as a pawn. but then, i cannot speak for what is inside of another heart.[/quote]

i may be overstepping a line, but i know (for a fact) that bill, kerry and others who i will not name, believe steven greer has been compromised, potentially by the very et's he tries to contact. he leads a double life and this has been brought to their attention.

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hi

i cannot read dr greers heart either but my intuition and my ability to read faces, eyes and bodylanguage tell me that if there is anything "impure" in his message it doesn't come from his intentions but from that he might be mislead, used and being "only human".....

....and though due to extremely traumatic experiences in my own life with a person i easily could believe is an evil "reptilian" i would rather choose the approach of dr greer before kerry cassidys.

i dont want to judge anyone here, but in the interview following kerrys blogging about dr greer where she says he makes insidious statements about any et:s being negative and that he is misleading pple, i feel more warmth and love emanating from dr greer than from kerry. that said i'm not able to tell who is right or wrong, i just feel like we should "mind our own business" and our own minds and feelings here on eaeth rather than project the evil outside on some negative et invasion.

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[WillowWoman]

according to the seattle exopolitics examiner, steven greer and his disclosure project has sent a briefing to obama for review, urging obama to procede towards disclosure.

here is the article in the seattle exopolitics examiner outlining the effort toward disclosure:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-seattle-exopolitics-examiner~y2009m10d24-obama-and-g7-head-of-state-given-ufoet-briefing-documents-as-disclosure-information-war-escalates?cid=examiner-email

here is the actual briefing in pdf format by the steven greer's disclosure project

http://www.disclosureproject.org/pdf-documents/obamabriefingintroduction.pdf

enjoy.

[Anders Lindman]

if i remember correctly, greer said that he knows that humanity is not allowed to do interstellar travel. i don't know if he really knows that or not, but i believe he is correct. he also said that our planet is in a quarantine until we have matured as a civilization and become peaceful. david wilcock and others have also said that our planet is in a state of quarantine.

the camelot team's view is correct seen from a human perspective. it is a mistake however i believe to make projections based on our own undeveloped civilization. if we think of interplanetary/intergalactic civilization as a fancy cocktail party, would you go to the party to defend yourself physically, and bring clubs, knives and guns with you? probably not. but if in addition to civilized people, there would also be a bunch of gorillas at the party, you may want to bring some weaponry with you. :d our human civilization is like a gorilla at the moment. we need to evolve/develop into a civilized race before we can meet the sophisticated snobs from other solar systems. ;)

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hello

as a very plutonic scorpio i know something about jealousy:o and i often presume others being jealous since i've got that problem myself internalized from having had two jealous mothers......suppose it's something karmic;)

anyway could it be that bill and kerry are just a little tiny bit jealous;) not having had this wonderful contact of the 3:rd degree that dr greer shows us in the video from barcelona, if it's not a fake of course....how would i know???

after wartching the ufo:s and listening to the signals they sent to the group making contact i must say it's so far the most impressive thing i've experienced on the internet and the synchronicities i had today just blew my mind.

my heart was filled with joy and wonder and it's such a sad thing to think this would just be a hoax, but if it is i will have to live with that. ii've survived severe brainwashing so i might be immune:cool:

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goodevening!

when i came upon this forum in dec 2007 one of my first posts was about orion and the synchronicities i had with the info on the forum and a song i wrote about venus and orion
living on starshieldstreet;) in gothenburg.

i had this negative feeling about orion due to greek mythology and traumatic events in my life which were reinforced by the info i had here that there were some negativity about the council of orion. i never have sorted this out and i always tended to have bad feelings while looking up on the constellation of orion.

now when listening to dr greer, seeing these friendly twinkles from orion "we're coming"
i wish from the deep of my soul that this is a turnaround for me and that i will from now on be happy when i see the monumental and beautiful constellation in the wintersky wishing me good luck and that i also now can sing my song with a different meaning...i won't even have to change the words, just my feeling and also add another verse now that disclosure is coming near:)

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[Deambor]

what is confusing to me about all of this, is that ra clearly states that orion has negative polarity. it's embeded in loo many times.
and yet throughout the dc communitity and outside of it the idea that orion is trying to help us and they are good guys is very much around.
so i don't know any more.

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i cannot say if greer's intentions are pure or if he is being used as a pawn. but then, i cannot speak for what is inside of another heart.

i may be overstepping a line, but i know (for a fact) that bill, kerry and others who i will not name, believe steven greer has been compromised, potentially by the very et's he tries to contact. he leads a double life and this has been brought to their attention.[/quote]


hello hazyjane

you say that bill and kerry "believe" that steven greer has been compromised by the et:s he "tries" to contact.

also you say "he leads a double life and this has been brought to their attention"

in the first sentence you say they "believe" and in the second it's stated as a fact.
where is the proof of this? perhaps i should have waited to feel happy while watching the twinkles from orion....perhaps i'm the one who's got it right from the beginning, there's something suspiscious about orion all the same:(

gosh all these speculations just make me want to go to the countryside with my father and my dog.

goodnight from tarnsiten

goodnight

[Anders Lindman]

what is confusing to me about all of this, is that ra clearly states that orion has negative polarity. it's embeded in loo many times.
and yet throughout the dc communitity and outside of it the idea that orion is trying to help us and they are good guys is very much around.
so i don't know any more.

what greer said about how peace is the ticket into space seems reasonable. and that civilizations, like our, are kept in a quarantine until we have become peaceful enough to be allowed interstellar travel and interactions with other civilizations.

our civilization is clearly negative. i believe it's a natural result, but still, wars and other atrocities are examples of extreme negativity. it could be that orion also has a 'young' civilization, and if so would also be negative since they would probably be clubbing each other in the head just as we humans do today. on the other hand, if ets from orion have visited us, then that theory breaks down. :confused:

for true peace, i believe we need safety and security. if we don't as individuals and as a civilization feel that we are 100% protected, we will not have true peace. in that sense, the camelot team is correct, that we should not just blindly trust that advanced ets are peaceful (although i suspect they are, seen from a rational viewpoint).

one idea is that after a singularity, where technological progress explodes into infinity, then the technology will act as a super-police. not in the negative new world order way with horrible orwellian control, but that the technology (including self-improving artificial intelligence with almost godlike powers) keeps things safe, while at the same time allowing maximum freedom and prosperity for the real ets.

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goodmorning

yesterday i wathched the video with bob dean at the barcelona exopolitics conference. kerry from project camelot was also there introducing henry deacon.

now one thing i cannot grasp is why steven greer was heavily critizised by project camelot having said no et: were hostile. bob dean said exactly the same thing, that if they had been a threat to us "it would have been "over" a long time ago.

clarification anyone?

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[billybobbutterball]

hi, trans, hope your stars and planets are with you today!?

off the top of my head..........

there are "bad" ets, probably chief among other nasties (love them) are the orions...from the location where genghis khan gravitated to, and where the former conqueror of the world is now working as an upscale shipping clerk, keeping the crusaders supplied with needed paraphernalia to convert earthlings to their negative philosophy of dog eat dog, etc.:eek: well, they think it is great. one's on top that is.

dean worked with the military by interfacing with positive ets...it would be surprising if he
had any dealings with orion's decked out in their war paint.:p

i suspect that greer knows better, but thinks that bringing up negative aspects would not be politically helpful in getting his agenda of disclosure to come to pass...its the old orson wells's invaders from mars scenario of scaring the hell out of the public,,and politicians.

the idea that if they were hostile then they would have already done us to a crisp...is plain lame! they want to use us! ..(alive, not as crispy critters!)

and furthermore earth is under quarantine...though some individuals can sneak through time/space creases without the usual needed permission from the council...or whatever.

does that help any? i was afraid so....

sorry. love, etc, billybobbutterball




goodmorning

yesterday i watched the video with bob dean at the barcelona exopolitics conference. kerry from project camelot was also there introducing henry deacon.

now one thing i cannot grasp is why steven greer was heavily criticised by project camelot having said no et: were hostile. bob dean said exactly the same thing, that if they had been a threat to us "it would have been "over" a long time ago.

clarification anyone?

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hi bbb

well i picked the devil from the tarot cards yestreday:d (haven't used for a loooong time)
and after that came upon a doom and gloomvideo...:eek:

anway, waht i was asking was not whether dean, greer and kerry was right or not but why kerry was crtizising greer for saying there are no mean et:s and not bob dean???

liliane the reptilian

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and bbb

..... to continue you mentioning orion gives me the opportunity to refer to another video i watched that all over the earth ancient cultures have built their villages and pyramids after the constellation of orion. the hopi left one village after the other to complete the whole constellation after hundreds of years.

they carved the "antgods" who guided them in this undertaking into the rocks and their word for ant is "anu" and friend "naki"...any bells ringing? do you mean that all et:s from orion are negativily oriented/"ant"ed:d

orion has hauntedh"ant"ed me from the very first day i came upon this forum, and i still don't grasp it. is there any place i can have the whole picture?

lili"ant"

[eagleye]

ra did say that there were negative et’s from the orion constellation. this constellation contains many star systems. from everything i have read in the law of one material i don’t recall any mention being made that the entire constellation was filled with negative planets. instead ra said that it was a group within orion. they form a negative empire organized in a confederation of negative planets. they were termed “the group of orion”. in my mind this would also leave the possibility of positive planets located within this constellation.

weather or not dr. stephen greer is contacting negative or positive entities remains to be seen. however it would seem they are conveying a positive message to him. i can’t recall any negative messages conveyed through greer from these entities. if they were negative we should be hearing negative messages such as warnings of impending doom. no such warnings have been issued through them. also i don’t know of any lies they are telling him. so there is no reason for me to believe that they are negative. to say that he has been compromised because he does not want to focus on the existence of negative beings does not prove anything for me.

in addition i don’t think it really matters. all this argument from bill and kerry at project camelot about negative ets with dr. greer is really not necessary. i think they have blown the importance of this way out of proportion. they do this out of fear. they are afraid that if we only believe in positive beings that we open ourselves up for manipulation and attack like with the new tv series v. i can understand why they think this way especially bill. he was abducted by negative beings and floated out of a tent one night while sleeping in the mountains on a hiking trip. it was a very terrifying experience for him so i can understand that he would want to protect others from such experiences.

however, according to ra and other positive entities from the confederations there is quarantine on this planet. this protection is provided by higher beings. due to our already predominantly negative planet this shield surrounding earth provides a balancing of the two energies negative and positive polarity. how? well this is accomplished by allowing less negative ships through. only a very small number have made it through as opposed to the positive entities. and they can only come through occasionally by seeming random openings in the net. this is allowed on purpose to balance the energies of this planet, but they can’t just come in whenever they want. in contrast positive entities can request to come through and they will be granted access based upon their intentions. that is why we now have an overwhelming number of positive ships in our skies. we don’t need to be afraid of any negative entities because they will not be allowed to circumvent the quarantine.

we are only allowed to be manipulated if we allow it for ourselves. otherwise there is no need to worry or even acknowledge the existence of these negative entities. in order to maintain their negative polarity they must abide by the universal law of free will. that means if we reject them they must leave or suffer extreme losses of energy. this means they become less powerful due to a loss of magical energy. they are to smart to let this happen to them. their goal is to become more powerful not weaker.

i really don’t think we need to acknowledge them at all. we especially don’t need to fear them because that gives them power. they feed off of fear energy. it is part of the process they go through in service to self.

i’m not saying that people should not know of their existence but we really don’t need to focus on them out of fear. that is where i believe bill and kerry are performing a disservice to those who are choosing to move to a more positive outlook. in an effort to help they are actually promoting fear which comes from their own fear of these beings.

i believe dr. greer is operating to balance the overwhelmingly negative perception that the population has of aliens. this perception can be attributed largely to hollywood which portrays them as man eating monsters bent on destroying us. we already have enough of this propaganda out there. eventually people will wake up and realize they have been lied to about this and will except their place as in the universe as galactic citizens. they will realize they have an extended family in space and will welcome them with open arms. i look forward to that day. :)

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:)thankyou eageleye!

exactly what i wanted and needed to hear and actually say myself to those few i can talk to about this. one is a friend of mine, 58 years old, the other one the son of my ex, 22 and my tenant from romania 23..

and bbb! sometimes i think our jokes create confusion;) bur then again, that's the law of confusion:confused:

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[Matthew Clark]

ra did say that there were negative et’s from the orion constellation. this constellation contains many star systems. from everything i have read in the law of one material i don’t recall any mention being made that the entire constellation was filled with negative planets. instead ra said that it was a group within orion. they form a negative empire organized in a confederation of negative planets. they were termed “the group of orion”. in my mind this would also leave the possibility of positive planets located within this constellation.

weather or not dr. stephen greer is contacting negative or positive entities remains to be seen. however it would seem they are conveying a positive message to him. i can’t recall any negative messages conveyed through greer from these entities. if they were negative we should be hearing negative messages such as warnings of impending doom. no such warnings have been issued through them. also i don’t know of any lies they are telling him. so there is no reason for me to believe that they are negative. to say that he has been compromised because he does not want to focus on the existence of negative beings does not prove anything for me.

in addition i don’t think it really matters. all this argument from bill and kerry at project camelot about negative ets with dr. greer is really not necessary. i think they have blown the importance of this way out of proportion. they do this out of fear. they are afraid that if we only believe in positive beings that we open ourselves up for manipulation and attack like with the new tv series v. i can understand why they think this way especially bill. he was abducted by negative beings and floated out of a tent one night while sleeping in the mountains on a hiking trip. it was a very terrifying experience for him so i can understand that he would want to protect others from such experiences.

however, according to ra and other positive entities from the confederations there is quarantine on this planet. this protection is provided by higher beings. due to our already predominantly negative planet this shield surrounding earth provides a balancing of the two energies negative and positive polarity. how? well this is accomplished by allowing less negative ships through. only a very small number have made it through as opposed to the positive entities. and they can only come through occasionally by seeming random openings in the net. this is allowed on purpose to balance the energies of this planet, but they can’t just come in whenever they want. in contrast positive entities can request to come through and they will be granted access based upon their intentions. that is why we now have an overwhelming number of positive ships in our skies. we don’t need to be afraid of any negative entities because they will not be allowed to circumvent the quarantine.

we are only allowed to be manipulated if we allow it for ourselves. otherwise there is no need to worry or even acknowledge the existence of these negative entities. in order to maintain their negative polarity they must abide by the universal law of free will. that means if we reject them they must leave or suffer extreme losses of energy. this means they become less powerful due to a loss of magical energy. they are to smart to let this happen to them. their goal is to become more powerful not weaker.

i really don’t think we need to acknowledge them at all. we especially don’t need to fear them because that gives them power. they feed off of fear energy. it is part of the process they go through in service to self.

i’m not saying that people should not know of their existence but we really don’t need to focus on them out of fear. that is where i believe bill and kerry are performing a disservice to those who are choosing to move to a more positive outlook. in an effort to help they are actually promoting fear which comes from their own fear of these beings.

i believe dr. greer is operating to balance the overwhelmingly negative perception that the population has of aliens. this perception can be attributed largely to hollywood which portrays them as man eating monsters bent on destroying us. we already have enough of this propaganda out there. eventually people will wake up and realize they have been lied to about this and will except their place as in the universe as galactic citizens. they will realize they have an extended family in space and will welcome them with open arms. i look forward to that day. :)

hi eagleye,

may i say what a lovely explanation you have given there about the neg et's. you have said it all really and echoed many of my own sentiments.

one of the forum members said this to me in a private email...


i do think that all et's are inhearently good, and only play the good cop/ bad cop roles when needed. when they come into contact with people who only respond to someone who is of "warrior status", ie gov't/millitary officials, i think these otherwise peacefull beings are forced to show their abilities to the war mongers in order to send them a message of "we're here and yes we have the capabilities of blowing you to smitherines, but we're not even remotely interested in doing so.", or to put it in a more crude manor... cough up some respect where it is due.

i think he (starborne) makes a brilliant point there, especially the part "cough up some respect where it is due".

well i just wanted to make a point of thanking you for that inspiring post.

matt :)

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well eagleye

i actually didn't mean i say all that you wrote which would be hubris on my part:o i meant what you said about not focusing too much on the negative since that gives the negativity more energy.

...and bbb...the stars and planets are always with us whether we want it or not:p

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[billybobbutterball]

ok!

no more mr. "nice guy" ... no more lame jokes..

the gloves are coming off!

i happen to be a leading orion crusader operating under cover, in fact, i'm only a couple of successful conspiracies away before i will challenge the big dog to a negativity contest.

i'm breaking cover so i can respond to some slanderous remarks that threaten to quench
the darkness of our orion negative polarity.

it is upsetting for anyone to question our dedication in following the "left hand path"!

look! with my left hand over my luciferion heart i now shout, we are not pretending!...just ask carla rueckert about the one who provided her with the negative greetings. do you think that she thought that was pretending! (but on the other hand pretending can be good...it helps our little deceptive tricks to work.(after all, our motto is: "by deception thou shall ravage planets") look at our cleverness in re-touching the ten commandments...did you notice that we cleverly disguised negativity by aping positivity?...control, that is what we are all about! hah!..thou shalt not do this or that, etc.
would you think that any one with any sense would believe that nonsense? but then again, what a splendid trap for stupid hominids!


look, its tough. the odds are stacked against us because gaia is basically a positive planet -- not a friendly negative one! hah! you see a little turmoil in your affairs and you think that is a big deal?.....not! and forget about the unfounded rumor that we will have to switch polarity when we triumphantly storm something called the sixth density.....i can assure you that it will be a hot day in heaven before that ever happens!!!

so bill ryan got abducted off of k2? hmmm i don't think that was one of us. we wouldn't have brought him back if that was the case....but that does explain his fixation on things ufo wise. and why are they picking on greer and not dean? well that is simple, greer has by far the greatest outreach, stephen's opinions reach far and deep into 3-d psyches.

oh oh! i feel a dangerous vibration! something really big and bright is coming fast!:eek:! time to go back in hiding!...hey! quick! where is my camouflage?..my billybobboobytrapl hat??

................slither slither sl...er:p

[CarolineOwens]

i think he is going to be in tempe, az at a conference in november . i'll see if i can locate that info and post it for you if you are interested in seeing him.

[mods believe this is the same conference david wilcock will attend]

[aqcheryl]

ok!

no more mr. "nice guy" ... no more lame jokes..

the gloves are coming off!

i happen to be a leading orion crusader operating under cover, in fact, i'm only a couple of successful conspiracies away before i will challenge the big dog to a negativity contest.

oh oh! i feel a dangerous vibration! something really big and bright is coming fast!:eek:! time to go back in hiding!...hey! quick! where is my camouflage?..my billybobboobytrapl hat??

................slither slither sl...er:p

lol, brat! lol

[transiten]

:eek::d:p bbb

talking about dogs and the ten commandments! yesterday i met a woman with a bitch - is that the proper name for a "female" dog? - that would not obey negative commands but only "good" "nice bitch" etc..

well actually with the experiences i have from "little turmoils in my personal affairs" i would have a hard time imagine that the false luciferian light would only be present here on earth. i just don't want to think that all of the beautiful orion constellation is compromised and who knows , the hopi "antgods" perhaps were from another star than the sumerian hawk/eaglelike ones? (now i have to resist the temptation to make personal astrological references...i think i will have to start a forum on my own, merging astrology for personal spiritual shadowwork with the concepts of the loo;)

well that shed some light on my wonders even if they were luciferian, lucifer the poor fallen cherished morningstar of god who just wants to be one with us all but is constantly rejected and slandered. sometimes even denied at least when it comes to one's own shadow....

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[Megumi]

here goes the link: http://www.chetsnow.com/signs.html

and thanxs for the inspiring posts!

[moderators: david is at this one starting nov 20]

[Berry Chastain]

lol, brat! lol

hahahahahahah! i love it! thanks bbb you lizard you!

[Berry Chastain]

transiten,

i just wanted to make one comment regarding the anunaki,

if we can believe zecharia sitchin and i do think that he has a pretty good idea of what the sumerians were leaving us in their writtings, the anunaki were not from orion, but from the mysterious planet, nibiru, or what is alternatively known as planet x. this is/was a planet of our own solar system in a very extreme orbit which only seems to approach the inner planets once every 3600 years if i remember properly.

according to the summerian legends ( i use that word lightly as i wonder if they are legends) the anunaki were the original creator gods of earth, known to egypt, sumer, mesoamerica, africa and other parts of the world. even the origins of yahwe and the elohim were possibly some of the anunaki. most of the gods of the ancient middle east were possible and most likely anunaki.

and they like most "peoples" had their villains and their heros. some were positive and others were negative in orientation. in fact it is likely also that the whole concept of god vs. satan, angles of light as opposed to angles of darkness came from the anunaki traditions proceding from the sumerian and egyptian legends.

[transiten]

hello berry

well how could forget that? i've read alot about nibiru and the annunaki. only that the video i watched with this researcher who has lived with the hopi and can show all the villages placed exactly after the constellation of orion, made the connection with the "antgods" and anu=ant, friend=naki.

this is really puzzling. pm me if you want the link, interesting stuff indeed. there must be some other connection then, the option for these words to be the same in hopi and sumerian language to be "just a coincidence" are below zero:confused:

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[transiten]

well just to add to the confusion watch the video in the mayan prophecythread! there's this researcher collins who wrote "the cygnus mystery" that states the pyramids of giza are aligned to the stars of cygnus in the dark rift. also someone commented that this would make better sense if we're on a positive spiritual path than the connection of the pyramids to orion. if so we're back to orion being all negative?

suppose steven greer would be happier with the swan guiding his soul anyway:)

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[Krapyl]

we are trying to make a conference with greer in norway, or some are.
because of this, a database with names of inventors and builder`s of free energy devices
will be put in place.
may be unjustified but i`m thinking, closure project?

[eagleye]

you’re welcome transiten, matt; your kind words are appreciated.

in reading through the law of one material again regarding the orion group and the law of confusion, or of free will as most people call it, i noticed some additional interesting points that could help those seeking to combat the fear projected at them regarding any negative ets to which dr. greer will not acknowledge.

first as i said bill and carry are hyping this up because they are very worried that negative ets could use the naive trust of the population to manipulate and enslave us. i do not condemn them for this and believe that they do it out of a genuine desire to help and protect others. but i don’t think they have a proper understanding of the situation and thus are creating an unnecessary situation of conflict between themselves and dr. greer.

the second point i would like to make is that they don’t realize that what they fear has already happened and has been going on for a very long time. but not in the way they would expect it to occur through a direct contact with the public.

in order to understand how this happened we first need to know why it happened. in other words what are the goals of the group of orion? ets from higher dimensions of consciousness have as their goal increased magical powers attained through a polarization of energy based upon their chosen polarity, that being negative or service to self in the case of the orion group. but polarization is only two sides of the same coin. they accomplish this by focusing all their attention of love to the separated ego self. these increased powers give them an expanded consciousness and a greater understanding of all that is thus bringing them closer to the oneness of consciousness. this is the journey we are all on. the choice is ours how we will get back there. some of this is explained by ra in the below quote:

“ra: i am ra. we would. the nature of the densities above your own is that a purpose may be said to be shared by both positive and negative polarities. this purpose is the acquisition of the ability to welcome more and more the less and less distorted love/light and light/love of the one infinite creator. upon the negative path the wisdom density is one in which power over others has been refined until it is approaching absolute power. any force such as the force your group and those of ra offer which cannot be controlled by the power of such a negative fifth-density mind/body/spirit complex then depolarizes the entity which has not controlled other-self”.

once we know this we can begin to build an understanding based on the fact that everything they do will revolve around this goal. they will not do something if they think it will result in loss of polarity. also we should take into account they don’t think like earthly humans do and have no interest in material acquisition other than to facilitate conditions necessary for negative polarization.

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[eagleye]

“questioner: if the orion group was able to land, would this increase their polarization? what i am trying to get at is, is it better for them to work behind the scenes to get recruits, shall we say, from our planet, the person from our planet going strictly on his own using free will, or is it just as good for the orion group to land on our planet and demonstrate remarkable powers and get people like that?
ra: i am ra. this first instance is, in the long run, shall we put it, more salubrious for the orion group in that it does not infringe upon the law of one by landing and, thus, does its work through those of this planet. in the second circumstance, a mass landing would create a loss of polarization due to the infringement upon the free will of the planet. however, it would be a gamble. if the planet were then conquered and became part of the empire, the free will would then be re-established. this is restrained in action due to the desire of the orion group to progress towards the one creator. this desire to progress inhibits the group from breaking the law of confusion”
we can also see from the above quote that they will not be landing here openly. if they wanted to do that they would have done it a long time ago but chose not to because they concluded it would have been to much of a gamble. instead they have chosen an alternate route for earth shown here:

questioner: then we have crusaders from orion coming to this planet for mind control purposes. how do they do this?
ra: i am ra. as all, they follow the law of one observing free will. contact is made with those who call. those then upon the planetary sphere act much as do you to disseminate the attitudes and philosophy of their particular understanding of the law of one which is service to self. these become the elite. through these, the attempt begins to create a condition whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved by their free will".

in reading this quote anyone that lives on this planet would be able to see that this is exactly what has happened to our planet. we have the presence of an elite as well as an ignorant population. we have allowed ourselves to become enslaved through our own free will. why do i say this? well because the continued exercise of power by this group is only made possible by the continued consent of the people. that is why they operate in secrecy. the population consents to this by not objecting to the actions taken by this group regardless of weather or not they are aware of their true agenda. the negative group causes problems and then provides the solution to which the population agrees. this is how they are guided in the direction to serve the interest of the elite. the evidence for this is all around us. it is displayed in the unfair distribution of wealth of the planet to the detriment of most people living here. there are billions of people suffering so that a few thousand can enjoy their elite status.

i am not saying all of this to get anyone down but only so that we can understand what the real situation is in regards to the group of orion and their negative influences here.
the reality we find ourselves in has already begun to remedy itself. we are witnessing the destruction of this group of negative elite. in turn we can also conclude that we are also witnessing the purging of the influences of the negative entities from the group of orion. people are waking up to the fact that they have been manipulated and are not going to take it anymore. the will of the population is changing and will continue to do so because of a revealing and an awakening to the truth of their situation.

so you see we don’t need to be afraid of these negative ets because we have already won the war against them. bill and carry are talking about something that they believe could happen. i am talking about something that has already happened. at this point we already know what the outcome is going to be so it would be ridiculous to focus on situations that are not real instead of our current reality.

[Meriut]

"so you see we don’t need to be afraid of these negative ets because we have already won the war against them. bill and carry are talking about something that they believe could happen. i am talking about something that has already happened. at this point we already know what the outcome is going to be so it would be ridiculous to focus on situations that are not real instead of our current reality."

i agre and think this is a very good point.

[goodyear8504]

evidently, if obama doesn't disclose the truth by this summer, dr greer and a g8 country (i'm thinking russia after reading david's latest ebook) are going to do it without him and the us will be left in the dust. only time will tell, so we'll see what happens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4xid9huoj0

[Rebecca]

evidently, if obama doesn't disclose the truth by this summer, dr greer and a g8 country (i'm thinking russia after reading david's latest ebook) are going to do it without him and the us will be left in the dust. only time will tell, so we'll see what happens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4xid9huoj0

here's some good news, goodyear,
in greer's barcelona speech entitled the promise of a new energy, greer states emphatically that if obama has not taken "definitive action" within one year of his taking office . . .
so that means january 20,2010 is the date, not this summer. january might not seem so long and chilly afterall! :-) rebecca

ps if you want to check it out, he announces this in the 1:02:40 mark . . .about 5 minutes before the end.

[ankarusskaya]

i have been to a greer's recent lecture, and he said something very promising and true: why are we waiting for an official disclosure, media air time? the disclosure already happened and still happenning around us, in people's minds that are awakening. we literally have thousands of pictures,videos, and other ufo materials. do we really have to wait for illuminati to come up with an official confirmation? i doubt they'd ever do it. and so what would it change? i do not believe its up to the government to let the et's in, however free energy devices would be gladly appreciated!

[MarBu13]

for me, personally, i'm waiting for the chain reaction an "official disclosure" is suppose to set off. yes we know that ets exist. but still not many people are awaken to our true history and nature. not to many the truths about religion, science, the negative-elite factions and spirituality. more and more people are awakening but a more upfront official conversation about it would sure help.

[conundrum]

in carla's video's she pretty much makes it clear or suggests that it was an ai she was in contact with in regards to how she spoke when receiving the transmission.

[clairead]

for me, personally, i'm waiting for the chain reaction an "official disclosure" is suppose to set off. yes we know that ets exist. but still not many people are awaken to our true history and nature. not to many the truths about religion, science, the negative-elite factions and spirituality. more and more people are awakening but a more upfront official conversation about it would sure help.

the state of the union address has been announced as planned for wednesday 27 january 2010. this was posited as the next opportunity for disclosure.
there must be something to the numerology of the dates:
11/27/09 = 11
01/27/10 = 11

peace,
kelly

[Happystrings]

the state of the union address has been announced as planned for wednesday 27 january 2010. this was posited as the next opportunity for disclosure.
there must be something to the numerology of the dates:
11/27/09 = 11
01/27/10 = 11
peace,
kelly

that was my thought too...will listen very carefully wednesday night...