My fear of aliens

[AL_EMT]

ever since i could remember my biggest fear was aliens, greys in particular. i don't know how it started, but i know that the fear is ever present. i am scared of the dark because i think they are lurking in the corners or behind some furniture. i have to sleep with my closet closed; because i think they could be watching me from there. every noise i hear in the house that i can't link to my parents, in my mind, could be aliens inside the house. being abducted would be worse then hell i think.

if i ever encountered one i would kill it. is this a proper reaction?

can some one rationalize my fear?

[johnasmodeus]

since habituation therapy is out of the question, i can't offer you a solution, only tell you that your fear is completely normal and understandable. could i suggest meditation on a white, protective light that envelops your entire house before you go to sleep or whenever you feel threatened? works for me. if that fails, you can actively call down positive entities to surround and protect you. sometimes when i am alone in the house, i imagine them as perfectly white angels holding flaming swords and forming a circle around my bed.

[mawk109]

hi al_emt,

i can really relate to your problem. when i was 5 or 6 years old i was visited by these guys regularly, this was back in 1968-9. i was terrified and it seemed there was no way i could escape them. even worse my parents thought it was just a case of having an active imagination. they thought it was my fascination with dr who but i knew that what i was experiencing was completely different. i was also often having obes then too. it wasn’t till the internet came about that i realised others were experiencing it as well. the net result of this was that i shut out my explicit dream and obe world for 30 years.

so when i was about 35 or 36 years old and realised that if all of this was real then the real problem was my fear. the point is i am still here. i also realise that at some level i have given permission for these visitations.

the great thing is that once i got over the fear my dream world opened up again. i have received wonderful insights and interactions with an array of celestial and dimensional entities.

i know in the past david has erred on the side of caution, so i would respect his position too. i am not up to speed on what has been happening on the boards here so have a look in the archives. but from my own experience a big part of the et fear thing is really our own fear. i am quite comfortable in the knowledge that i am well protected these days.

anyway i hope this is of services to you.

yours in love and light,

mawk

[kstar]

hi - i have this fear too - and i think it must have come from watching too many sf films etc. because for all we know some or all aliens might be ok....i'm a bit of an 'alien agnostic' in that it still has to be proved to me that they are all friendly, until then i remain cautious.
i do use the sort of protection visualisation john has described - i don't have to think about it much at all now - i can 'see' my angelic guards all around my house all the time and it has helped allay a good many of my fears of the 'boogie man'.
i did have a brief scare recently when i woke up and felt my body tingling, my ears ringing and felt like i was being lifted, feet first, off the bed...all sorts of thoughts went through my mind - was it attempted alien abduction amongst them!
still wondering what it was but since it stopped suddenly and i went back to sleep i must have felt safe and confident that my angel guard are not going to let anything 'bad' happen to me.
anyway it is good to admit to these fears because it allows others to admit theirs too and offer suggestions that may help.
love and blessings to you - hope you feel better just being here with friends (i do!)
kathy

[sergejsh]

can some one rationalize my fear?

i see it as any another fear. people afraids mouses, bats, bugs, spiders etc. another people never fears them. i know girl who afraids tall people - she don't know why. so there are different fears and usually it is not clear why people afraids something.

i personally do not afraid any types of aliens - even most exotic.

[johnasmodeus]

i did have a brief scare recently when i woke up and felt my body tingling, my ears ringing and felt like i was being lifted, feet first, off the bed...all sorts of thoughts went through my mind - was it attempted alien abduction amongst them!

actually, that sounds like the start of an obe.

[motman]

actually, that sounds like the start of an obe.

i would have to agree. i had the same thing happen to me. i started to tingle all over then next thing i know... i was floating near my ceiling! lol the snapping back in to the body was the hard part!:eek: for some reason, i was sick for 3 weeks after that happened. i guess i wasn't ready!

[The Wonderer]

ever since i could remember my biggest fear was aliens, greys in particular. i don't know how it started, but i know that the fear is ever present. i am scared of the dark because i think they are lurking in the corners or behind some furniture. i have to sleep with my closet closed; because i think they could be watching me from there. every noise i hear in the house that i can't link to my parents, in my mind, could be aliens inside the house. being abducted would be worse then hell i think.

if i ever encountered one i would kill it. is this a proper reaction?

can some one rationalize my fear?

do not fear the greys or any alien race. the greys and other non benevolent aliens feed off of hate, anger, and fear like parasites or vampires. they use us as food energetically. so do not fear aliens. fill your heart with bravery, love, and positivity. however, it is normal to be afraid from time to time. i mean, its only human.;)

[wintersun]

do not fear the greys or any alien race. the greys and other non benevolent aliens feed off of hate, anger, and fear like parasites or vampires. they use us as food energetically. so do not fear aliens. fill your heart with bravery, love, and positivity. however, it is normal to be afraid from time to time. i mean, its only human.;)

now where did you get that they use us as food?

[billybobbutterball]

now where did you get that they use us as food?

dino, psychic literature across the board seems agreed on this point... below is one example:

cattle mutilations in particular...

43.6 questioner: are you saying, then, that these parts that are removed are related to the mass consciousness of the third-density human form and that this fear is being used in some way by the thought-form entities in these mutilations?

ra: i am ra. this is correct. the thought-form entities feed upon fear; thus they are able to do precise damage according to systems of symbology. the other second-density types of which you speak need the, what you call, blood.

billybobbloodless :eek:

[wintersun]

dino, psychic literature across the board seems agreed on this point... below is one example:

cattle mutilations in particular...

43.6 questioner: are you saying, then, that these parts that are removed are related to the mass consciousness of the third-density human form and that this fear is being used in some way by the thought-form entities in these mutilations?

ra: i am ra. this is correct. the thought-form entities feed upon fear; thus they are able to do precise damage according to systems of symbology. the other second-density types of which you speak need the, what you call, blood.

billybobbloodless :eek:

wow... well, haven't got to that part yet in the loo. thanks for the info!

[The Wonderer]

wow... well, haven't got to that part yet in the loo. thanks for the info!

its some odd stuff but it does happen(alien sucking our energy, that sounds like space invaders).:eek:

i wonder if the vampire myths are based off of this. i wouldn't be surprised if it was.

[AL_EMT]

something happened to me today at 2:30am(eastern). i was sleeping, i wasn't dreaming of anything i was just sleeping. suddenly i woke up, my eyes still closed. my mind was humming, vibrating in some wierd way; i felt like my mind was being pulled out. in the midst of this i kept saying to myself "i'm being abducted, i'm being abducted". somehow i knew that i was in the first stages of being abducted. whether or not this was the case i don't know for certain; but deep down, deep inside i knew, i somehow knew. this was a very scary feeling, all hope was lost i was in utter fear. my mind was being "beemed" up to the sky, and i knew my body would follow...then i started saying "no you cannot do this to me". or something along those lines, its very blurry this memory of mine. i started forming a spiritual barrier, i willed this barrier into existence; to protect me from them, whoever they where. after i used my mind to block this new threat i have never encountered before, the humming in my mind stopped. i didn't feal like i was being beemed up anymore, like some one flipped a switch. i opened my eyes and looked around, nothing, i felt all the blood in my body circulating. i felt my heart beating like i never felt in before, it wasn't fast, it was just beating with greater force.

i was scared, in utter terror. i turned on the tv and the lights, put my pants on, and got in my car. i went to 7-11(convenience store) and got coffee. i just sat in the parking lot drinking my coffee and smoking my cigarettes for almost an hour, i coudn't go home i was in a panic. i felt so low. finaly i went home and watched tv until the sun came up, because i don't think they can get you in the morning. i don't know whats gonna happen tonight, i'v been dreading it all day.

[The Wonderer]

something happened to me today at 2:30am(eastern). i was sleeping, i wasn't dreaming of anything i was just sleeping. suddenly i woke up, my eyes still closed. my mind was humming, vibrating in some wierd way; i felt like my mind was being pulled out. in the midst of this i kept saying to myself "i'm being abducted, i'm being abducted". somehow i knew that i was in the first stages of being abducted. whether or not this was the case i don't know for certain; but deep down, deep inside i knew, i somehow knew. this was a very scary feeling, all hope was lost i was in utter fear. my mind was being "beemed" up to the sky, and i knew my body would follow...then i started saying "no you cannot do this to me". or something along those lines, its very blurry this memory of mine. i started forming a spiritual barrier, i willed this barrier into existence; to protect me from them, whoever they where. after i used my mind to block this new threat i have never encountered before, the humming in my mind stopped. i didn't feal like i was being beemed up anymore, like some one flipped a switch. i opened my eyes and looked around, nothing, i felt all the blood in my body circulating. i felt my heart beating like i never felt in before, it wasn't fast, it was just beating with greater force.

i was scared, in utter terror. i turned on the tv and the lights, put my pants on, and got in my car. i went to 7-11(convenience store) and got coffee. i just sat in the parking lot drinking my coffee and smoking my cigarettes for almost an hour, i coudn't go home i was in a panic. i felt so low. finaly i went home and watched tv until the sun came up, because i don't think they can get you in the morning. i don't know whats gonna happen tonight, i'v been dreading it all day.

what the hell? i suggest you stay over someone's house for a day or too, and go back. rest while your over there/ then return home. do not sleep. stay up for the rest of the day. be on guard. if they do not come back, fall asleep but with the same attitude and mood you had when you resisted the pulling of your body. i don't know if that was an abduction, but it definitely sounds like something was trying to take you.

maybe your fear attracted them, like it was a feeling warning that they are going to abduct you. do not fear them, the greys will feed on that energy and will make constant visits. not trying to scare you. don't let them get to you. if you use love and bravery, they won't be able to take the vibration and move on if you really were being abducted.

anyway, your story sounds extremely.:eek:

[wintersun]

but this really sounds more like an out of body experience... or rather, starting of it. are you 100% sure that it's not it?

[The Wonderer]

but this really sounds more like an out of body experience! or rather, starting of it! are you 100% sure that it's not it?

that could be another possibility.

[sergejsh]

then i started saying "no you cannot do this to me". or something along those lines, its very blurry this memory of mine. i started forming a spiritual barrier, i willed this barrier into existence; to protect me from them, whoever they where. after i used my mind to block this new threat i have never encountered before, the humming in my mind stopped. i didn't feal like i was being beemed up anymore, like some one flipped a switch. i opened my eyes and looked around, nothing, i felt all the blood in my body circulating.
i think "they" (whoever they are) created for you possibility to go through experience of your fear of "them" (whoever they are) and to try to control that fear using power of your intelligence. and i think you did it successfully.

you know, sometime i think that this is one of the reasons why "abductions" are happening. in fact they are not necessary abductions, when human is taken somewhere. it's just created virtual reality inside of our mind, which looks real. but humans are not taken anywhere.

there are also positive experiences. one of the most interesting examples for me is girl from australia - tracey tailor, which saw different et's (and grays too) from the youngest age. at that time she didn't know how to name them so she named as "father christmases". she never afraid them even when she experienced "abductions". actually for her all of it was very interesting.

also she started to paint very interesting pictures. [please email sergejsh for links to this positive story]

[AL_EMT]

but this really sounds more like an out of body experience... or rather, starting of it. are you 100% sure that it's not it?

could be that too i guess, but why would i have one of those out of nowhere? what would trigger it?

[linkes]

wow its nice to know iam not the only one who feels like this, when i live by myself i freak myself out but i always felt like i was being watched since i can remember

i find the safest place for me is when i climb into my baby girls bed, i also sleep with my light on. but every mourning i wake up and the sun is still shining.

its def fear based, maybe we had an experiences when we were younger and don’t remember it and our physical body just unconsciously links them up as threat or its the media conditioning us

sometimes i close my eye to go to sleep and an image of a grey flashes into my face not sure it is them or they are just trying to intimidate me or my minds playing tricks. sometimes i can calm my self down to a point where i can feel only compassion for them, this usually works for me and when i cant calm myself down i jump into my daughters bed.

thanks for posting this post its good to know iam not crazy.

peace and
blessings
linkes

[mawk109]

hi all,

i would just like to share some insights which may be of some help. first of all if you have obes regularly then you are eventually going to come across things not of this world. this means it doesn’t matter where you are as time and space as we know it changes. at a bare minimum 10% of people report experiencing at least one obe in their lifetime. so the phenomenon is quite prevalent, however, it is often dismissed as delusions by some. i am fortunate in that i have been able to verify information from an obe with a later physical experience. so to my mind it can be a real phenomenon.

the next point is that there are many levels that you can experience once in the obe state and i suspect this coincides, at least in part, with the law of one notion of densities. in my case i have found that if i access three vibrational levels above my normal state then i can access prophetic information. i might add i have little control over this and i suspect i am strongly assisted. david’s work in the shift of the ages on platonic solids may help some determine what level they are accessing. the intensity of the vibration will indicate this too, basically the finer the vibration the higher the density.

if you are just starting to experience obes you might wake and feel that someone is in the room watching you. sometimes this might be a case of “mind split” that is your mind has not fully integrated with your body and hence you feel another presence. you will also experience massive vibrational fluctuations. as you get more familiar with the process the vibrational experience will get less severe. however, if you start treading on toes like doing healing work in the astral you might come across some negative entities that will not appreciate your work. this, like the greys, is when you need to know some psychic self-defence. in my case i have been given an astral sword. i can use this against most things but it really is the most ineffective defence. you are better to show your weapon fearlessly but not use it. in my case i show the hilt of the sword. this achieves two things (1) that you are not afraid of them and (2) it puts doubt back on them as they have no idea what you are capable of. the final and best level of protection is to show unconditional love. if you master these you will open many interesting doors.

one of the most important things to realise when accessing consciousness at the obe level is that “thoughts” have much more power than at the physical level. this is the fundamental reason to be on top of your fear. not only can negative entities take advantage of it but you can also be a victim of your own shadow!!

i hope this has highlighted how the et and obe experience may on occasion cross over. if you open these doors maybe you will be more prepared for what you find now.

yours in service,

mawk

[wintersun]

could be that too i guess, but why would i have one of those out of nowhere? what would trigger it?

there are many reasons :)

mostly cos you are an highly developed et soul. well, david wilcock experienced the same thing when he was very young.. he found himself floating over his body.

also i know a few more people who had similar experience.

if thats the case, and i'm pretty sure that it is, you have nothing to be afraid of. you should be glad, coy you are about to discover some very cool stuff :)

this doesn't sound like an abduction at all... i really doubt that's how they do it.

and, another point, if we were to trust david burish, there are no abductions any more, cos they are not allowed to.

i think you should let it happen next time. think about it. all this what you described fits perfectly to the stories i've heard. also, you might wanna do your own research, before you decide so.

if you wish, i can put you in contact with a friend i mentioned who had this obe. he would be happy to help you :)

[kickleeoutthevan]

i feared them as a child because of the film "communion" (im sure many here have seen it). that fear turned to curiousity and now i doubt i would hurt one if i saw one.

the best way is by facing your fear over and over again.

go to a dark wooded place and spend the night out there alone.

but be careful!

[AL_EMT]

i don't know about the woods thing, have you ever done that?

[kickleeoutthevan]

not precisely but i need to.

it was what whitley streiber did in transformation to face his fears.

[Jadde44]

neg. entities feed off your fear and negative energy!!! your highest protection is your love.

session 63:

questioner: i know that you have already answered this question, but i feel it my duty now to ask it each time in case there is some new development, and that is, is there anything that we can do that we aren’t doing to lessen the effectiveness of the psychic attack upon the instrument?

ra: i am ra. continue in love and praise and thanksgiving to the creator. examine previous material. love is the great protector.

session 64:

ra: i am ra. continue to consider the alignments. you are conscientious and aware of the means of caring for the instrument in its present distortions having to do with the wrists and hands. as always, love is the greatest protection.

[boogiepop81]

ever since i could remember my biggest fear was aliens, greys in particular. i don't know how it started, but i know that the fear is ever present. i am scared of the dark because i think they are lurking in the corners or behind some furniture. i have to sleep with my closet closed; because i think they could be watching me from there. every noise i hear in the house that i can't link to my parents, in my mind, could be aliens inside the house. being abducted would be worse then hell i think.


you are not alone my friend, i was in total awe as a child when i learned about the possibility of life on other planets and ufos, my grandmother saw where roswell happened and would tell me stories about the landscape before and after the incident, she said she believed our government was learning to fly them cuz weird things would happen in the arizona desert night. so when the popularity of ufos and ets came back in the early 90's, all the tv specials and news casts of abductees experiences were totally negative, i only saw one special and i think it was a special about the billy meier experience and how he met friendlily et's from another planet, but the very first time i ever saw an artists depiction of a grey i had a terrible feeling, like a vibration of total fear, i was in total fear of them, i would cry and beg my family to change the channel and they would tease me and show me the tv when a grey was on the screen or draw picture and show me just to torment me. i hated it and hated my family for scaring me, and i'd look away and be terrified, i had problems sleeping , it was worse than any scary movie or monster i had ever seen, and the image would not disappear from my mind, things in my room would look like them, i had to sleep with a night light till i was 12. then when my cousin, who at the time was obsessed with ufos, rented "fire in the sky' i was brave enough to watch it(he was younger than me and i didn't wanna look like a chicken lol) so we watched it, and when i saw a grey i was terrified but i forced myself to watch and when i saw travis float into the room with what seemed to be lifeless greys floating around, and he looked behind one of them and realized they were just space suits. when travis turned around and saw one of them he kicked the grey in the head and the helmet popped off. i saw what it looked like without those big black creepy eyes, and we laughed! my cousin started joking saying it looked like a broke down ninja turtle with no shell, i was so relieved and full of laughter, after that moment i was no longer terrified.

but as i got older and learned about underground bases and et experiments and learned i lived near and important facility that was known to have deep underground levels it creeped me out, because i lived in an apartment complex growing up that was right next to the facility and all its acreage of land. i always noticed weird things around that place in the sky some nights. then when i seen something on tv about sleep paralysis and it having to do with the greys abducting you it scared me all over again because me, my siblings and cousins who all live there at the complex were experiencing this, especially when we lived there, it happened alot. we thought that because it was a ghetto section 8 apartment complex nobody would believe the residents if they claimed to be abducted. so it was perfect testing grounds for the greys and our governmet. lol. every time i had encountered sleep paralysis since then i would try my hardest to fight it thinking i was about to be abducted.

then later i learned sleep paralysis can happen before having an out of body experience. and you can encounter certain type of entities depending on your vibration. i finally had the chance to let myself go into sleep paralysis and the experience was profound. my whole body started vibrating like when your leg or arm falls asleep but all over my body, then i saw a flashing black and white mantra, i said to myself "whoa cool!" but when i spoke it wasn't my voice!?! and i could see my words turn into beautiful colors i then tried to see if i could leave this beautiful place in what i thought used to be my room(another dimension maybe?) and remote view other places and somebody came in my room and woke me up. ihe instant i was awakened i said loudly "nooooo!!! it was sooo beautiful!" i didn't want to leave that place, i didn't get to explore and i wanted to go back soo bad! after all i have learned from david wilcock and others(you beautiful spirits here) not to fear or hate the greys because you lose vital energy and to love them with compassion. i feel now i can confront them without any fear just unconditional love!

peace, light & love my friends(you also greys lol)
you are appreciated.

[AL_EMT]

well, from my understanding greys are from orion. and orion is a negatively polarized planet, all then want to do is control other beings. i understand the reasons for loving them, having read the law of one. but i don't feel compelled to love them.

also an update: i had a dream where i encountered an orionite and we had a psychic battle, i lost.