immenseley hating the creator/creation/DNA

[tifferella]

please help,



how can one cope with immense feelings of hating the creator so much, hating creation so badly (humans, reptilians, and all cosmic races, planets, cosmic life), and even hating the dna that runs through our very veins...

if one hates life so badly, hates the system of life: dimensions, densities, de-evolution, and ascension, hates everything... if one is unable to function daily becauase they hate human life so much and are suicidal hating this earth life so much.... what does one do in that case???

if one just hates this system of ascension so badly, and hates the creator for creating it, what can a person do if they hate existence so badly?

[The Wonderer]

please help,



how can one cope with immense feelings of hating the creator so much, hating creation so badly (humans, reptilians, and all cosmic races, planets, cosmic life), and even hating the dna that runs through our very veins...

if one hates life so badly, hates the system of life: dimensions, densities, de-evolution, and ascension, hates everything... if one is unable to function daily becauase they hate human life so much and are suicidal hating this earth life so much.... what does one do in that case???

if one just hates this system of ascension so badly, and hates the creator for creating it, what can a person do if they hate existence so badly?

well, i am not really a psychiatrist so i really don't know what to say. but i advise you to find the source of this hate towards all things. everybody has a reason why they act or feel a certain way whether it be a life changing experience or just certain chemicals in the brain. i once felt hate towards everything because i was immensely depressed. i would ask the creator why he/she doing this to me. why are you putting me through so much pain?

then i realized the person i was before this great depression. i thought i was better than everybody else because i was smart. i manipulated and lied to people all the time. i did sinister things. then i realized it was karma that was coming back from all of my actions. the person i am now is a better person than i was before. though i do isolate myself sometimes from people in fear of being mocked and made fun of, i realized that only worsens my problems.

i feel that life is a set lessons that happens everyday. then you experience a major experience in your life. but since we have free will, we either choose the negative or positive path after the struggle.

like for instance, a girl gets raped and is abused by her parents and family. she starts to lose self respect for herself. all she can think about is the horrible things that have happened to her. if she survives to adulthood, those memories will still be with her. but, she might become a prostitute or waiter because her grief clouds her judgment. she does not have enough self confidence respect to use that pain as motivation and let karma do its work(trust me, karma always comes back, always). but she can also push herself and use the pain to make her push harder. she finds herself graduating college and using her horrible experiences to counsel and nurture other young girls who are going through similar pain and situations.

through her positive words and encouragement, those girls might find the little confidence they have left in them and that might be the tipping point in their miserable lives. however, the problem for some people is, their lives are too hard and it might drive most people to insanity. suicide is their only solution so they commit. but like david said, they reincarnate immediately and face the same problems again. so all i can say is try your hardest to push through. if you feel defeated, don't feel bad because your only human.

we humans do get angry, sad, depressed, suicidal, violent, and we do many dark things in our lives that we will never dear to admit. so keep faith and hope.

[metaman]

you may want to seek help from a professional spiritual healer. you may have something in your energy field feeding you such thoughts.

[vandance22]

i have gone through similar experiences, although not quite exactly the same. i strongly believe that all of the negativity in my self has made me a more well rounded person. for example, how exactly can a person even begin to help another when they do not even remotely understand them? i am not saying that it is impossible, but i know that in my experience i have been much more equipped to help others that i have come across because of negative experiences that i have had in my life.

i believe that the suffering in the world exists because of the free will of the individual, it is there because people have made choices. it is true that suffering (in its many, many forms) does suck. lol and do not get me wrong, i am not saying that suffering is a good thing, but rather that there is a great potential for "good" to come out of the suffering.

a couple of years back, i would have loved to inflict pain and physical suffering upon world leaders such as cheney and wolfowitz for what they have done to the world. now i look at them, understand that i would have gladly done what they did to others to them. i would have chosen to do to them the very things that i hated them for!!! at this point in time, i understand that they have chosen to do what they do for earthly/carnal rewards. i somewhat understand how they could commit such deeds, and now feel sorrow for the situation of their souls. i feel sad that fellow human beings have fallen to such levels of negativity.


please help,

in any case, that is how i have come to see such states of mind, and i hope it helps. i will be praying for you :)

-\/andance

[In Dreams]

please help,



how can one cope with immense feelings of hating the creator so much, hating creation so badly (humans, reptilians, and all cosmic races, planets, cosmic life), and even hating the dna that runs through our very veins...

if one hates life so badly, hates the system of life: dimensions, densities, de-evolution, and ascension, hates everything... if one is unable to function daily becauase they hate human life so much and are suicidal hating this earth life so much.... what does one do in that case???

if one just hates this system of ascension so badly, and hates the creator for creating it, what can a person do if they hate existence so badly?

the first question you need to ask is why? why is there so much hatred? after you can answer that, is the minute you can find the answers to cope with it.

[Jadde44]

love and hate are choices. the solution to this problem lies in simply chosing love over hate. expulse any thoughts that come into your mind that are hateful and welcome the love and the light of the one infinite creator. you can do a meditation which is powerful. sit or lie comfortably. when you breath in see all the love and light entering your soul and being when you breath out see all the hate and negative emotions leaving. you may also have welcomed negative beings close to you by feeling this way. the best thing to do is to choose to see the love in everything. choose to see the beauty. choose to see the light. meditate frequently because meditation can be of great help. also quiet your chattering mind. the mind must be like an open door so that light and love can come in. the key to having that opened door is silence. when you look at something or someone don't judge it, just see things as they are, accept all things as they are. maybe you hate the world because you would like it to be different. accept the world the way it is. you chose to come here voluntarily and there were other millions of souls that would love to be here right now. out of all the other worlds, densities, and places you asked to be put here for a reason. take advantage of your time here it is precious if you choose to see it. another advice i can give you is this. when you feel that negative feeling analyze it, look at it face to face, understand it, evaluate it and once you comprehend it will vanish. lack of understanding is what causes those feelings. good luck. may the light and the love of the one infinite creator be with you always.

jady

[WeR1]

in one of [name] books she provides a helpful suggestion

say to yourself or outloud, while pushing an imaginary eject button in the location of your third eye
(or as i did, while pulling weeds all day long - or any other symbolic action - cleaning, etc.)

"i refuse this tape and the dark side and i release its negativity from my mind into the white light of the holy spirit"

over and over and over and the negativity will lessen and diminish.

you would not be targeted were you not potentially a tool of the light side. take heart and have renewed faith after you release such thoughts through the method above. it works on a myriad of levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get out of that downward spiral!!

[canaan]

please help,



how can one cope with immense feelings of hating the creator so much, hating creation so badly (humans, reptilians, and all cosmic races, planets, cosmic life), and even hating the dna that runs through our very veins...

if one hates life so badly, hates the system of life: dimensions, densities, de-evolution, and ascension, hates everything... if one is unable to function daily becauase they hate human life so much and are suicidal hating this earth life so much.... what does one do in that case???

if one just hates this system of ascension so badly, and hates the creator for creating it, what can a person do if they hate existence so badly?

tifferella i can say for myself i've harbored these feelings before. i think many many others have as well. i spent a larger part of my teenage and young adult life feeling this way, not only because i began to "peak behind the curtain and see the wizard" but because i saw the terrible things that can happen to others and felt an amazing outrage.

that you are questing for help and answers from a forum largely based on the pursuit of love and light while yourself harboring feelings of hate for all creation tells me something: you feel instinctively that you should not feel this way.

cognitive dissonance: feeling or stress caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously.


keep in mind that all almost all roadblock along our path are roadblocks we have placed ourselves.

look at all the variables objectively.

what do i really feel?

try to get pass the biochemical soup the body feeds itself.

why am i in the state i am in?

really analyze the place you are currently in, does it make you proud or ashamed, happy or sad? analyze your environment and state of mind~ what has led me to these feelings?

why am i looking for answers from people who believe in and love all the things you hate?

you are here asking this for a reason. find it!

once you find all the answers to any honest question you have of yourself, start thinking about your choice. you can hate or love.

remember loving yourself, even more than anyone else is not a crime before the creator, because you are the creator.

the creator is infinite and has loved and hated itself and its other-self ad infinitum.

feel free to private message me if you have any more specific questions

[johnasmodeus]

@wonderer:
i find it funny how you so casually group "prostitute" with "waiter" in your example and wonder how many food service professionals read this forum :d

@tifferella:
from my point of view, it is good that you hate god, and the creation, and everything. the strength of your hatred shows me how deep your love went before it was perverted; as well as how strong it may become in the future if you choose to work through it.

remember: hate is not the opposite of love. hatred requires love to exist. we cannot actively hate something that we don't feel love for; if we felt no love for it, we would simply not consider it at all.

take your time. explore your hatred and get to know it. eventually you will have had enough and begin to move into a more comfortable space.

:)

[Tenet Nosce]

hi tifferella,

my condolences to you in this time of immense pain that you are moving through. i second the suggestion that you might benefit greatly from some one-on-one counseling with somebody who is well-versed in these matters. to that end, i would recommend against a traditional psychologist or psychiatrist unless that individual is also very cognizant of the spiritual dimensions of this suffering which you are experiencing. unfortunately, the viewpoint of your average mental health specialist sees severe anger and depression as nothing more than a chemical imbalance in your brain which can be "corrected" through chemical means. while pharmaceuticals may be of assistance in helping to create a bridge to healing, often times they are confused for the healing itself, which is of a spiritual nature.

with that, i offer a few words which may be of service to you, though i realize that they are only words, and are likely not to be of all that much help.

first and foremost, realize that you are not alone. the experiences you are moving through are not unique to you, but rather are of an archetypal nature, and as such serve as gateways of consciousness that we all must pass through in our journey.

sometimes when in a very negative state, it may appear that you are the only one who feels this way, and that nobody else could possibly understand the pain you are going through. this is an illusion. while the sequence of experiences you have passed through to come to this place is unique, the experiences themselves are not. rather they are part of a collective drama in which we are all participating, and which will pass.

hopefully soon.

there are those who, on the surface, seem to live a "charmed" life, or who would appear as if a grin has been permanently etched onto their face. yet if you were to peek behind the curtains, and open up the closet doors, you would find a wealth of cobwebs and skeletons lingering in the shadows, and you would realize that the life they appear to lead is, in fact, not as devoid of suffering and pain as they would have you believe.

there are many right now who are in severe states of denial of their own negativity and suppress said negativity through addictions of various sorts. whether it is to alcohol, street drugs, sex, or prescription medications, the result is the same. the negativity just gets pushed down deeper into the psyche, and if not resolved, will undoubtedly manifest as a life crisis, disease, or other form of breakdown.

one of the most insidious forms of denial is in those who hide behind a facade of spirituality. they claim to love the creator and creation. they wish "love and light" upon all they see. yet in reality, they harbor a deep-seated hatred of self and others, and strong feelings of negativity. this extreme state of denial blinds them to the otherwise obviousness of the fact that their relationships are in shambles, their finances are in ruin, and their health is all but destroyed, is a direct result of this denial of the negativity that they carry on the inside. this is not the same as somebody who is genuinely trying to make the best of an otherwise awful situation.

the difference lay in whether or not there is a frank admission on their part of the challenges in their life, and whether they are actually taking steps to resolve them, or just paying lip service to spiritual truths that they do not really understand. you can discern this type of individual by observing that whenever you bring up the negativity you feel, they become extremely uncomfortable and try to placate you with spiritual memes like "think positive!" or "it's all god!" that sound like good advice, but lack any substance which would be of practical value to you. these people will not serve you, and it would be wise to avoid them as likely interacting with them will just cause you ro feel worse about yourself. if interacting with another leaves you feeling uplifted, even to the smallest degree, then they are being of true service to you.

that you have taken steps to give a voice to your feelings demonstrates a commendable level of courage, and is the most important, and often the most difficult, step to healing that you will take. have no doubt that you will be healed, as far off or as unlikely as that may seem to you at this time.

finally, let me be very frank with you that taking your own life will not result in any sort of relief from the pain you are experiencing. most likely it would result in a magnification of that pain once you come to the realization that you are still here, for in reality your life cannot be taken from you. you are an eternal being. the pain and suffering you are experiencing would still be there were you to leave your body behind, as this pain and suffering is not sourced in your body, but in your sense of separation from the creator.

my recommendation to you is to feel your anger. to feel your pain. embrace it fully. for though it might seem like a grave affliction to you now, in time you will come to view it as a gift, and in eternity it will seem as nothing more than a passing nightmare.

do not be afraid to be angry with the creator. the creator will neither take offense, nor be angry with you in return. write a letter detailing every aspect of your frustrations, your despair, and your disgust. make a list of everything you hate about creation, and read it out loud. scream it out loud. broadcast it on youtube. whatever it is you feel you must do to give it a voice -short of causing harm to another- do it. you will feel better. i promise.

peace be with you in these troubling times.

tenet

[larissa]

hi tifferella, you've got some wonderful responses from some beautiful souls. i guess a lot of us have been where you are and can understand. my own experience, after going through years of absolute hell which i later found out was my own doing (!) i was finally brought synchronistically to what i needed as my next step of development. in my case it was a 12 step program, everybody has their own solution waiting to be presented.

what i learned was to focus on the solution within myself, that i was the problem and i was the solution. focusing on all the "bad" things happening was not only a distraction but just brought me down energetically. the only way to deal with "out there" is to work on "in here". no ifs ands or buts. however, how does one start when one is so immersed in the pain and "hatred" that is all consuming?

good question. by being in a supportive environment of like minded people, all pretty much going through similar issues, i could feel safe. and i was open to suggestions, having hit a pretty bad bottom. the first suggestion was to make a gratitude list. that was difficult, since i hated everything. but eventually i got to a point where i could do it without wanting to throw up.

things just kept getting better. as i learned to be more positive, my world changed and i became more positive. now, 14 years later, i can look back and see it as an unpleasant dream. i don't have to go there anymore. and instead of having to fight off all that unwanted pain, i can move forward and find fun things to do and learn. i'm convinced that the state of my being has an affect on the world, so it's my job to stay happy. simple.

but nobody could tell me anything (they still can't). i refuse to take advice or well intentioned suggesions. i'm still stubborn and want to work it all out by myself. i'm learning that my higher self, which is the only thing i want to take advice from, is my friend and will get me through everything, if i allow it.

ok, that's already too much. bottom line, we'll all get through this somehow, one way or another. don't worry, be happy. love those words.

[Jadde44]

i agree with "in dreams" reply. ask youself why do you feel this way and get to the bottom of it. once you know why everything else is easy. there is a reason deep down and if you find it , you shall be free from it if you wish.

[starwhite]

i can understand what you mean. i am not for the idea of ascension of joining with a so-called creator and losing all individuality. what if it is non-existence? i find this intensely horrific and terrible. i cherish my free will and individuality, and i will share it with whom i so choose. as far as hate, i readily admit there are some people i hate intensely. that is reality. i recommend you get a hobby and keep busy. meet your pain head on and face it. when i felt that way some years back i took a road trip across the united states. ended up staying.

[The Wonderer]

also remember your anger and negative thoughts might bring negative entities invisible to the eye. like everybody else on this forum says, they feed off of it. you might not know they're there, but they are close and feeding.

now i don't want to sound crazy or some lunatic, but i have a evil voice in my head. he calls himself ''the evil consciousness.'' anytime i am not feeling to good about myself or negativity comes in, this evil sounding voice talks all this c*** inside my head. sounds pretty creepy and weird yes, but it is very real. now at first, i thought i was crazy. but this entity made me feel like it was living inside or near me, and it was able to interact with me from the hellish realms because of the severe depression(i was suicidal for a certain amount of time) and anger problems i dealt with. that anger and sorrow built up to the point where if you walked by me, you felt like you walked by a walking corpse.

anytime somebody talked to me and i looked at them, they would immediately end the conversation because i looked like a disturbed person. he still lives with me, but he is slowly dieing because i try my best to stay positive and enjoy life more. i am not crazy.:rolleyes:

[Tenet Nosce]

i am not for the idea of ascension of joining with a so-called creator and losing all individuality. what if it is non-existence? i find this intensely horrific and terrible. i cherish my free will and individuality, and i will share it with whom i so choose.

this is a good point to make. i didn't think about it until you brought it up.

i remember when first presented with the concept of ascenion i had the exact same concerns. something in me revolted against the idea that i could lose my individuality by reunification with the creator. actually, if you take a look at "satanic" philosophies, this is a core concept that the philosophies are built upon.

these philosophies argue that the creator is just like some kind of universal vampire that is attempting to trick you to let into the house, so it can suck your life-force and individuality, and in essence destroy you. as always, this is a "through the looking glass" manuever, as it is the fallen negative beings who would seek to do exactly that.

the philosophy has a certain amount of appeal to this basic, and totally natural, sense of fear and revulsion at the thought of losing our individuality. however, the fact is that this reunification does not require us to surrender our individuality. much as how a cell in your body is still an individual cell, but permeated by your consciousness, so are you a cell in the body of god. ascension is a process of becoming fully aware of this. i know there are some references to this in the loo, but i don't know where, and don't have the time to find them at the moment.

what ascension is not is something that can be forced upon you against your will. it is a conscious choice you make, and when the time comes, you will be presented with the opportunity to remain in your current separated state if you really prefer. there is no judgment about this. you are free to do as you will.

the thing to be aware of is that it actually takes immense amounts of energy to maintain separation from the creator, and since you are simultaneously cutting yourself off from using this source energy you are basically left with the option of trying to coerce others to sacrifice their energy unto you. . . hence the dark path.

the surrender happens when you realize two things, which are really two sides of the same coin.

the first is that you really and truly are the love and the light and the one infinite creator. this is your true identity, and the little ego that you would so desperately seek to protect is but a shadow projection of this. you are intricately connected to all that is. separation does not really exist, but for a delusion in the mind. this is the law of one.

the second is that you will find that actually the farther you go along the path of separation, the more you will lose your sense of individuality. in order to feed off of the energy of others, you must first match their vibratory frequency, which means in practical terms creating illusions about who you really are in order to get others to trust you. for if they knew what you were really up to, they likely would not be as willing to give their energy to you. the farther and farther you go along the negative path, the more and more you get caught up in these illusions of yourself, and the more and more you become like those you seek to control and manipulate. eventually you come to the place where you have completely forgotten who you are.

this inevitably leads you back to spiritual square one, asking "who am i?" which is why the dark path and the light path ultimately converge in the 6th density.

[mellisamouse]

wow, all of these answers are awesome....i just wanted to give a little practicle suggestion too, as to coping in the moments that are the lowest of the low....

what i do now when someone either tries to steal from me, ruin my house, tell lies about me, etc, etc, (those kinds of things that used to seem horrendous like it was the end of the world while they were happeneng) well, now instead of feeling bad, and sending them the negative energy (it is the energy they want) i immediatly feel sorry for them, that they don't understand that there is an infinate ammount of energy and they can get it by connecting with the creator through nature, positive thoughts and feelings etc, but mostly through graditude.

they really get nothing out of it and bug you less and less if they get no negative charge comming out of you, weather it be real people in your immediate reality of your life in front of your face, or negative thought form entities feeding thoughts to you about real or immagined people and situations that may or may not even exsist anywhere besides in the story they are placing in your head for the benefit of getting you all charged up.

i guess my point is, if you don't give them what they want, they will find somewhere else to go eventually....if you give them the opposite, love, undestanding, and compassion (because you know now how it feels to be there you have the tools to feel compassion for them) they hightail it, or change their exsistance completley into a more favorable light....

sometimes these things come from within ourselves to push us to growth i think also.

jmho

mellisamouse :)

[Rhonda]

tifferella, greetings !

these emotional feelings of hate, lack of fulfillment/joy or purpose in life stem from your wounds that have lodged into your heart from outside (external) experiences of life. (humans, reptilians, and all cosmic races, planets, cosmic life) you are stronger than you give yourself credit for.

the beauty of your life (and everyone elses) is found within. find that gratitude within you, only. afterall, you are the only one that can complete who you already are.

-ask yourself, have you begin to loose trust in yourself?
-have you depended on others for self worth rather than knowing you are so special and true
-your hurt, your emotional wounds tells me that you are so loving and only want to be seen for this love, not for what closed eyes give. stay strong !
-fix your makeup, inner makeup, remember when you did feel good, remember, you are love, remember, this will pass, remember, it is all for a reason to build you up, even when it seems to build you down, remember you are love
-hang in there, you know you, "thyself", you know you are more than what is not right at this moment

rather than allow yourself to "hate", just allow yourself to be, be

throw out all words, labels, past, future ideas of what life thinks of life, just be, you and let it come.....



please help,
how can one cope with immense feelings of hating the creator so much, hating creation so badly (humans, reptilians, and all cosmic races, planets, cosmic life), and even hating the dna that runs through our very veins...

if one hates life so badly, hates the system of life: dimensions, densities, de-evolution, and ascension, hates everything... if one is unable to function daily becauase they hate human life so much and are suicidal hating this earth life so much.... what does one do in that case???

if one just hates this system of ascension so badly, and hates the creator for creating it, what can a person do if they hate existence so badly?

[1VibrationalEnergy]

agreed, these are fabolous answers!

it seems to me a majority of people have been through the depression and suffering and hate.

now, i've been wondering this...is it because of our suffering that brought an awareness to the conscious field that all is one?

the conscious field has always been here...agreed? but because of the mayan fifth night and just following the calander of creation...there is a horrible time of dark night and then the start of the sixth day revives us all...

idk if this is making sense...

but tiff, your suffering was meant for you because once you see the light, you will know why...hang in there and trust that you are taken care of...
(now if i were in my state of depression and someone told me that gibberish, i would not believe them...)

so anyway, it will all come to everyone on an individual level <3

love&light&life

[sergejsh]

if one just hates this system of ascension so badly, and hates the creator for creating it, what can a person do if they hate existence so badly?
i think just leave all of this.

bad is not when somebody hates all of this. bad is hate itself. it's just not healthy. so, think about what you love and be with what you love. that's it.

[Enkidu]

i can understand what you mean. i am not for the idea of ascension of joining with a so-called creator and losing all individuality.


the law of one states that those emotions are the ego self fearing loss of itself and its seat of power. once union has been experienced i imagine it will be amazingliy beatuiful.

and it is not a total loss of self, the social memory complex of ra still possesses individual peices that can seperate and branch off to incarnate/serve at different places/times. proven by their interaction in our distant past and incarnated ra entities incarnated now.

continue spiraling ever upwards,
austin

[kensanwa]

please help,
if one hates life so badly, hates the system of life: dimensions, densities, de-evolution, and ascension, hates everything... if one is unable to function daily becauase they hate human life so much and are suicidal hating this earth life so much.... what does one do in that case???


focus on what you love. surely there is at least one thing in this universe that you love or at least dont feel a sense of hatred toward. could be clouds, turtles, wind, anything...take it from there.

the fact that you hate this world so means that you have an extreme non-acceptance of the way things are now and you wish that things were different. how would you like them to be? if you were the creator, how would you structure the system?

as far as the world goes, once you are able to face your hatred you must then:
"be the change that you want to see in the world." -mohandas gandhi

be well,
kensanwa