Which Density Am I from?

[Jadde44]

how can we know which density we are from? or who we were in our past lives? i really would like to know who i really am....

[Bill]

jadde... oh boy, nothing like asking the big, juicy question, eh? who am i? bless you, as all of us here have pondered that many times. i am sure you will receive some responses about you are the source, individuated at this 'time', in this dimension, to experience what you came here to experience... or, you will here other wonderful descriptions...

i think you might be also referring to reading your akashic records, as that contains that information. that can be done by anyone, but really only a few trained folks can do that.

other than that, you are perfection cast into this moment to experience who you are. how's that for a direct answer?

[Jadde44]

do you know who can help me know which density i am from?

[Detlef]

dear jadde,
i have to say, personally i would prefer if everyone received their information directly through their higher self/soul.
further i don't know if this information will help you in any way.
like most most on this board, you are part of a monadic being that resides in what is called 6d and a soul in 5d.
you are here in service and from the local galaxy.
i, myself identify mostly with what we call the soul, that is me.
with what is called the monad, i only was introduced once.
the energy is almost overwhelming.
no matter what we are on the other side, in the end the work has to be done her. and if we did our prep. correctly, all will be well.

regards detlef

[Jadde44]

like most most on this board, you are part of a monadic being that resides in what is called 6d and a soul in 5d.
you are here in service and from the local galaxy.
what do you mean by that i am part of a monadic being, like most on this board?
i do feel like i came here to help and to be of service to humanity.


i, myself identify mostly with what we call the soul, that is me.
with what is called the monad, i only was introduced once.
the energy is almost overwhelming.
how were you introduced?


no matter what we are on the other side, in the end the work has to be done her. and if we did our prep. correctly, all will be well.

how do we do our prep? or what do you mean by prep? our preparation, our self mastery so that in turn we can radiate the light and the love of the creator?

[SuperManny]

do you know who can help me know which density i am from?i'm not sure this information would be helpful to you, and if someone "helped" you to remember, they could very well be doing you a serious dis-service, instead of helping you.

the veil is there for a reason. everything is in divine order, and you probably can't remember, so that you can place your full and entire attention/focus on the here and now. if you need to remember, to learn the lessons you are here to learn, then trust that infinite intelligence will reveal to you everything you need to know.

[Detlef]

what do you mean by that i am part of a monadic being, like most on this board?
i do feel like i came here to help and to be of service to humanity.
yes, this is what i said, you are here in service.
to say it in very simple terms, a monad is a direct extension of the source, and comes into existance in the higher vibrational levels. the soul is an extension either of a monad or an oversoul (like the ra group)
an oversoul develops by moving through the mineral realm, the plant/animal realm, indiviualizes when experiencing the the realm of choice, 3d, and in almost all cases joins back as a soul group after moving into 5d.
[there are other possibilities how to come into existance]

how was i introduced to my monadic self?
a very long story, to long to tell, simply one step after what i call my soul merger. there are certain thing we simply know, without getting our mind involved. as we sit in stillness, we will be guided somewhere by someone.
and often it develops from something very simple, step by step. the ability of letting go, is an important part of it.
only then can the soul come trough and guide, make it's presents felt. in my case, it was a lady, i simply call here the lady in white.


[/quote]how do we do our prep? or what do you mean by prep? our preparation, our self mastery so that in turn we can radiate the light and the love of the creator?[/quote]

we do our preperation for this life before we come here, and you need to trust that you did it well. trust in your own abilities as a spiritual being. then everything will unfold as it should.

regards detlef
rah nam

[starwhite]

it doesn't really matter who you were, what matters is who you are now! what everyone needs is quiet, relaxing reflective time. be good to yourself. each and everyone of us is precious beyond measure. go soak in a hot tub and relax. who are you? a beautiful human being.

[johnasmodeus]

there is no sure way to know which density you are from, and especially not from people on an internet forum who have never met you in person. :-)

there are rough and unreliable indicators of home density, to be sure. there is the aversion to having children, which i think is indicative of 5th density. there is the urge to serve to the point of martyrdom, which is compassion unbalanced by wisdom, and would indicate 4th density.

but these are always guesses, and you will have to investigate for yourself if you really want to know. i really have no idea which density i come from, though i have caught glimpses, i guess you could say, of things that might be from "home," in my dreams. i've caught bits of past lives in dreams and meditations. but nothing is ever definitive in this density.

you will never have proof, because your freedom to decide that the whole business of home densities is rubbish and nonsense must be preserved above all else.

then there is the question of why. why do you want to know? i'm not asking because i want to hear the answer, just to prompt you to ask yourself if you haven't already. would knowing you were native 5th make you feel superior to native 4th-density people and native 3rds? these issues need to be cleared as well, or else you may actually be kept from the answers you are looking for by your higher self, or other entities, or yourself.

good luck! i recommend the ra material, a bunch of edgar cayce readings (good stuff in there, even if its a little old) and daily meditation. and watch your dreams. you may have already seen your answer and forgotten it in the rush to breakfast. :-)

[wintersun]

there are rough and unreliable indicators of home density, to be sure. there is the aversion to having children, which i think is indicative of 5th density. there is the urge to serve to the point of martyrdom, which is compassion unbalanced by wisdom, and would indicate 4th density.

wow, you're saying that a 5th density soul has the aversion to having children??? this sounds quite ruthless in a way. i mean, whats so wise about not wanting to have children??

and what are the indicators of a 6th density soul?

[FooSnik]

it does seem to me, at my current knowledge level, that we probably exist on all planes/dimensions/densities at once. since there is no time in the higher levels, which is a real mind bending concept to grasp, then you simply choose which level you wish to focus on at a time. or something like that.

i think we simply chose to enter this 3d experience because it offers specific strengths and challenges that are unique only to here.

at least that is the way i feel about this at the moment.

cheers!
foo :)

[Detlef]

even so i don't agree that we exist on all vibrational levels at the same time, i certainly know that we exist on muliple levels at the same time.
i, myself like most on this board would extent from our present level up into 6th level, some into 7th.
it is a little different for those that are part of a soul group. since the extension comes from one particular soul within the soul group. but this in the end is more technical then practical.

regads detlef
rah nam

[johnasmodeus]

wow, you're saying that a 5th density soul has the aversion to having children??? this sounds quite ruthless in a way. i mean, whats so wise about not wanting to have children??

and what are the indicators of a 6th density soul?

bear in mind that i'm pulling from memory here, so i may very well be mistaken. however, if i remember correctly, one of the ra readings addressed this "home density" question and touched on the whole children thing in that 5th-density natives feel the "wrongness" of this density instinctively. they have an extra-strong dose of that "i can't put my finger on it but something's just not right here" feeling that many of us get and, feeling this, many decide that it would be inappropriate to bring others into such an "out-of-kilter" environment.

so it's not ruthless; quite the opposite. it's rather compassionate. as for sixth-density indicators, i'm afraid you'll have to dive into the readings.

:d

[wintersun]

bear in mind that i'm pulling from memory here, so i may very well be mistaken. however, if i remember correctly, one of the ra readings addressed this "home density" question and touched on the whole children thing in that 5th-density natives feel the "wrongness" of this density instinctively. they have an extra-strong dose of that "i can't put my finger on it but something's just not right here" feeling that many of us get and, feeling this, many decide that it would be inappropriate to bring others into such an "out-of-kilter" environment.

so it's not ruthless; quite the opposite. it's rather compassionate. as for sixth-density indicators, i'm afraid you'll have to dive into the readings.

:d

oh, why didn't you say so. in that case, it is compassionate. i thought you said they dislike children.

what do you mean i would have to dive into the readings? read the ra material?

[Tenet Nosce]

wow, you're saying that a 5th density soul has the aversion to having children??? this sounds quite ruthless in a way. i mean, whats so wise about not wanting to have children??

having a particular aversion to having children at this time, i thought i'd jump in on this one.

1. i have a very strong sense of recognition that unresolved distortions within my own personality will be passed onto my children, along with the resultant urge to try to resolve these distortions through my children rather than within myself.

2. i have a great number of interests and projects, the development of which i feel would be of great benefit to humanity as a whole, and which would have to be placed even further back on the burner by having to dedicate the immense amount of time and energy it takes to raise children.

3. i have lived my entire life in waiting for the events which appear to be unfolding before us now and of which i feel that it would be a disservice to me, my unborn children, and to others who may require my assistance, to be raising children during these times.

4. i do not observe there to be any qualified potential candidates in my life to serve as mother to my children, and i am not willing to compromise certain principles and philosophies just for the sake of having kids. in other words, i require a higher degree of compatibility with a potential mate than many others who would have children at this time.

5. we humans have not yet found a way to provide fundamental necessities to the 6.8 billion of us that are already living on this planet.

6. i have serious concerns about certain socio-political trends in this country, such as draconian laws forcing dangerous and unnecessary immunizations for children, a continuing degradation of respect for personal liberty and individuality in exchange for a false sense of security and equality, and a dumbing-down of the educational system in which our children are forced to attend.

just to name a few!

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

wow, you're saying that a 5th density soul has the aversion to having children??? this sounds quite ruthless in a way. i mean, whats so wise about not wanting to have children??

and what are the indicators of a 6th density soul?

hi wintersun, there are several reasons for this, here's a couple; first the whole karma thing, some wanderers choose to preserve their chance to return to their home density and feel that having children might attach them karmically to this density. second, once we start learning the lessons of re-unification with infinite creation we ponder the idea that bearing offsprings might promotes seperateness on some level...................sylvain.................

[canaan]

wow, you're saying that a 5th density soul has the aversion to having children??? this sounds quite ruthless in a way. i mean, whats so wise about not wanting to have children??

and what are the indicators of a 6th density soul?

to answer your question about aversion: its not that different densities have aversion to child rearing, its that different densities have different methods of procreation. if i remember correctly, light beings of 6th density use fusion to procreate, but still this method is not an "asexual" endeavor.

and to share a little of my thoughts on "what density am i?"

its important when i pine for this knowledge to remember i am in 3rd density. regardless if i am a wanderer who chose to come, or am newly incarnated into this frequency of existence, i am here and must focus on this density's lesson. the requirement to continue on my path of rediscovery is that i choose how i may serve.

so yes you may be a higher density being who came here for your own reasons, but the most important point is that, you are here~ and by your own volition. might as well enjoy it while it lasts ;)

[Tenet Nosce]

and what are the indicators of a 6th density soul?

here is one framework which may serve you in this inquiry:

3rd density - personal consciousness
4th density - planetary consciousness
5th density - solar consciousness
6th density - galactic consciousness

[wintersun]

alright alright hahaha

now i really understand what it means! but still, i would like to have a child, but i'd rather have it after 2012 hehe

i also felt like it wouldn't be ok to send the child into this miserable world, however, i realised that i gaind so many good experiences here, and that i'm really not acomplishing anything by preventing this soul to be born here.

and i say i would still have a child here, no matter what, just becose one way or another, i'm not the one who decides this childs karma or destiny. i felt the bitternes of this life probobaly more than the most, and i actualy think i turned out pretty good. with lots of valuable experiances!

and if again, i would have a child here, i wouldn't try to save him from the world and make him a golden cage. not to mention prevent him from even getting born.

come to think of it, i just realized i'm perfectly fine with not having children, but i certainly have no aversion (cos of the reasons above). it might be also cos i don't really make difference between my child (which i don't have yet, lol), my family, or any other being. i like to treat them all the same. i would never put my child in front of any other.

[FooSnik]

even so i don't agree that we exist on all vibrational levels at the same time, i certainly know that we exist on muliple levels at the same time.
i, myself like most on this board would extent from our present level up into 6th level, some into 7th.
it is a little different for those that are part of a soul group. since the extension comes from one particular soul within the soul group. but this in the end is more technical then practical.

regads detlef
rah nam

yes, i have heard most theories including the one that we simply go to and exist on the vibrational level that we resonate with. but i like the theory, that i have heard many times from different sources, that it is not that we were ever really separated from the other levels and the original source. we are just not aware of the connection at the moment. it is a level of "awareness" not a special club that only the divine can enter.

i have also heard, and i like this one, that there are infinite dimensions and densities. and if you think it then it exists exactly the way you thought it in some dimension somewhere. so, in a sense, we are all correct about our theories. because everything exists in one dimension or another.

johnasmodeus:

i have also heard that many wanderers do not want to have children to prevent creating karma and ties to bind them to the earth. they are simply here to do a job and then have a smooth trip home.

keep it light!
foo :)

[Enkidu]

this information is transient and of little importance. one of those answers that dont really matter in the long run. if you really desire the answer quite your mind and listen to your first responce when the question is posed...

continue spiraling ever upwards,
austin

[Tenet Nosce]

. . . i'm really not acomplishing anything by preventing this soul to be born here. . . not to mention prevent him from even getting born.

i'm curious to know how you came to be of the opinion that choosing not to have a child is equivalent to preventing a soul from incarnating.

[wintersun]

i'm curious to know how you came to be of the opinion that choosing not to have a child is equivalent to preventing a soul from incarnating.

well, the more i think of it, i am not sure if i would not want a child or not. it would be nice to have somebody to teach first hand everything i know, but you seriously made me think...

and i realized that whats happening is that i'm not sure what i want anymore. it's like the more older i am, i actually realize that having a child was only a stereotypical ideal of this world which affected me as well.

maybe it's cos i feel this is not the right time now (ascension, 2012), but maybe something really is different about me since the last time i thought about having a child.

right now i'm kinda fine with or without having it. like, whatever happens, is equally good to me. thats why i said i would not prevent it from getting born in any way, cos i'd fully accept if i had it, or if my partner wanted it.

it's kinda like this.. i have no aversion, nor do i have some special wish to have it. it's just that this time is not very practical, so i as well am in a way deciding not to have it :)

damn, i'm all screwed up now.

[johnasmodeus]

oh, why didn't you say so. in that case, it is compassionate. i thought you said they dislike children.

what do you mean i would have to dive into the readings? read the ra material?

no, no. 5th density beings like children very much. this stems from unconscious memories of their home density, where children are routinely eaten. :d

[wintersun]

no, no. 5th density beings like children very much. this stems from unconscious memories of their home density, where children are routinely eaten. :d

hahahahahaha :d good one.

[Tenet Nosce]

well, the more i think of it, i am not sure if i would not want a child or not. it would be nice to have somebody to teach first hand everything i know, but you seriously made me think...

to be clear, it is not my intent to talk you out of the idea, but simply to offer some perspectives which you may not have previously considered which may assist you in better discerning whether the desire to have children is a true desire of your soul, or the result of social programming.

for all of my previous objections, becoming acquainted with a suitable mate would likely result in a significant reevaluation of my current stance on the matter. ;)