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3D Sunset
07-23-2008, 10:21 AM
first an observation. all children coming to earth now are here for one of the following important purposes:

- they are here to work quickly to gain sufficient experience to be harvestable (either positive or negative).

- they are here to aid others in gaining experience necessary to be harvestable.

- they have dual activated bodies, and will be instrumental in populating the 4d earth.

- they are wanderers, here to aid in or witness the harvest.

- some other purpose.

as parents, we are responsible for sheparding them through these times. i am interested in starting a thread wherein we discuss the issues/duties/honors/responsibilities for parents to teach/learn and learn/teach the loo with our children.

my wife and i are the parents of three amazing kids ages 6, 8, and 12. the choice of their being born at this time is, i'm sure significant, as is the act that both their parents are consciously living the loo in service to others. here are a few topics i'd like to cover on this thread:

- how /when / what to say to feed their spirital need but not violate their free wills.

- helping them establish and maintain perspective and balance in the modern world.

- recognizing and encouraging spiritual evolution and growth. helping them realize and actualize that "all are one".

- helping them identify and address their purpose for coming.

- discussing the harvest and what it will/may mean to them (without freaking them out).

although all comments are welcome, i especially want to invite other parents to share their thoughts and "lessons learned" along these lines.

love and light,

3d sunset

One 66
07-23-2008, 04:38 PM
3d sunset,

i for one have taught my son (15 years old now) how to respect people, be considerate to others and that things may not be what they appear to be. i've alson mentioned to him quite often that there is no difference between him and everyone and everything around him. i've jokingly asked him a question that i've given him the answer to which is, "what's the truth" answer, "the unification of all things".

he doesn't really understand that yet but will when the time is right. when he is ready, he'll go in search and remember those things that i've brought to his attention and then realize what i was trying to pass on to him.

i will not go any farther with him on what i've already brought forth to him unless he asks me too down the road. only then will i go in to deeper conversation with him about the law of one, the law of the universe and about my own experience of knowing/truth/wisdom/love.

one 66 :cool:

Silvanus Sanctus Germanus
07-23-2008, 05:27 PM
hi 3d sunset, i feel the most important thing to start would be to encourage the recognition of free will and the total expression of self. as ra would say "own your experience". meaning to take full %100 responsibility for emotions felt and expressed, accepting them for what they are. this could hopefully nudge them into a seeking mode leading them to embrace free will and to journey into the unknown, a journey of self discovery and ultimately a possible awakening.:d ..................................sylvain......... ................

PhilipM
07-23-2008, 05:42 PM
i've got a similar situation in that i have 12 and 7 year old boys. however, my wife is not yet ready for the loo material. i've mentioned it in passing, and we are generally in harmony spiritually with each other.... but i've always been the "paranormal" guy who joined the are and listened to art bell while she doesn't really care. she wouldn't be able to read two paragraphs of some of the stuff in loo.. it's way to obtuse to keep her interestsed.

my two sons are interested in spirituality though (we watch the ghost and ufo related stuff on history/discovery/sci-fi,etc) and they'll ask questions now and again about what happens when you die and stuff. my older son has taken it upon himself to attend his friends church (i haven't attended my church since i was compelled as a minor to do so by my parents and i don't compel my family to go). but i don't feel comfortable going into the whole bit as described in the law of one texts with them. it just doesn't feel right to me. if you don't instinctively buy into this stuff, it does sound pretty kooky...

"don't fight over the xbox boys 'cause you're really the same entity so if one of you is blowing up guys on call of duty 4 you're both doing it. all is one, ya know! hahaha" --- next thing ya know, child protective services is knocking at the door to see what ol dad's been smokin'...

i jest, but you really have to develop a bit spiritually before the loo stuff resonates i think. so maybe just do what jesus did -- harp on the golden rule. it's basically a loo concept.

meganarline
07-23-2008, 06:55 PM
"don't fight over the xbox boys 'cause you're really the same entity so if one of you is blowing up guys on call of duty 4 you're both doing it. all is one, ya know! hahaha" --- next thing ya know, child protective services is knocking at the door to see what ol dad's been smokin'...

i can completely relate. i say enough "weird" things around the house as it is. one step at a time.

i think we teach a lot by example.

megan

jeremy6d
07-24-2008, 08:51 PM
3d sunset:

what a great topic! i'm glad you're interested in it, it's something i think about even though i don't have kids. i grew up with parents that were into new age spirituality, specifically cayce, paul solomon, and a course in miracles. the way they handled my upbringing spiritually was very respectful and conducive to me finding my own way, while exposing me to paths other families might not have. so i appreciate the gravity of what you're asking because of the impact this stuff has on me.

the best thing is to make a spiritual life seem normal. teaching by example is really the only way if you want kids to take it seriously and not see it as mom and dad's weird hobby. :) they have to see you trying to live a spiritual life and what that means for somebody, where the struggles and missteps are, etc.

let kids ask the questions. no need to hide your beliefs, in fact its good to see them acted upon, but don't preach to kids. let them ask questions and drive the exploration of what is so important to you. if you try to make it significant for your own reasons, they miss the chance to figure it out for themselves.

pray with your kids. this might be a little quaint, but it doesn't have to be anything in particular. my dad used to lead us in meditation when we went to bed, and in addition to being a different experience than a kid is used to when growing up, it was a lot of fun, almost like a game. also, there are always opportunities, like before school or before bed, where you can share a spiritual moment with a child. a short prayer or something goes a long way to demonstrating that sprituality is part of what it means to be alive, it's normal, and it's personal.

don't bog them down with information. i never cared about any of the specifics of all that cayce stuff, even though my dad tried to talk about them with me. i just didn't have a context for it at that point. later, i found out about the atlantis readings and went on my own reading binge. i absorbed the information when i was ready. so, a good library is essential - it and a good example have to be the number one ways you can give a kid control over his or her own identity while making sure they are exposed to a spiritual life.

the last thing i'll say is, some people just aren't cut out for spirituality. my two brothers had the same upbringing, and for whatever reason it just never was something they stayed interested in once they hit a certain age. there are many for whom spirituality will never be a big part of their lives. they just came here to have a different kind of experience than we did. plus, kids will surprise you... they may be going in one direction, have a significant experience, and whip around 180 degrees. don't take anything about the identity they're building too seriously as long as it's healthy.

that's just the perspective of an ex-kid, but hopefully it's not too noisy and helps a bit.

jeremy6d
07-24-2008, 08:58 PM
but i don't feel comfortable going into the whole bit as described in the law of one texts with them. it just doesn't feel right to me. if you don't instinctively buy into this stuff, it does sound pretty kooky...

yeah, i don't think the exercises in the material are necessarily the kinds of concepts that kids are looking to learn in every situations. there are times when it can be brought up, but again, the best way is for your to feel comfortable enough with it yourself that you can "translate it into their terms" and get to the essence.


"don't fight over the xbox boys 'cause you're really the same entity so if one of you is blowing up guys on call of duty 4 you're both doing it. all is one, ya know! hahaha" --- next thing ya know, child protective services is knocking at the door to see what ol dad's been smokin'...

yeah, sometimes it's just not the right setting. that is also another example of way too much information about something sort of out there. you wouldn't expect anybody else to really absorb that kind of weirdness so far out of left field... why would your kids understand?


i jest, but you really have to develop a bit spiritually before the loo stuff resonates i think. so maybe just do what jesus did -- harp on the golden rule. it's basically a loo concept.

that's not a bad idea. and the best way to teach the law of one is to study and internalize so you can revocalize it in your own words, and can have conversations with anybody on their level with ease.

3D Sunset
07-25-2008, 09:07 AM
great start, and thanks for the comments so far. i continually find that parenthood is the most humbling endeavour i've ever undretaken, so i genuinely appreciate your thoughts and experiences. i share everyone's belief that we must take it slow and let our children teach us what they need to learn, and when. i also agree that the golden rule is an extremely effective tool for both introducing the law of one concepts (i.e., when you do unto others, you are also doing unto yourself), and helping them consider the impact to others of their actions (both positive and negative) in a very personal way.

i see within my own children a spectrum of interest in, and resonance to, spirituality. we are not a religious family, but we are a spiritual one. i think a lot us live in a similar apparent paradox due to our distaste for the distortions inhert in all religions, and especially those in many of their followers. still, we wrestle with what is the proper amount of spiritual activities that are appropriate to help ground our children.

i'd like to delve a little deeper in everyone's experiences with and thoughts on teach/learning prayer to your children. to me this topic includes meditation, some types of yoga, and even a walk in the woods.

what do you think? what works for you? how did you get there?

love and light,

3d sunset

PhilipM
07-25-2008, 04:30 PM
what do you think? what works for you? how did you get there?

love and light,

3d sunset

i remember ra saying something about how one of the purposes of ufo/paranormal activity was to inspire the person who experienced the phenomena to think about things beyond their immediate perception of reality -- make you start asking questions like what's out there that my five senses can't tell me about. once you realize that science, church, or your authority of choice doesn't have all or even most of the answers, you are able to start filling in the spaces with your own ideas. unless you had some inkling that there was "something else" out there, you would never start seeking. so along those lines, like i said earlier, we watch the bigfoot/ufo/ghosthunters/blah blah stuff because i think it excites the kids' minds and gets them thinking about things beyond the mundane school/sports/video games drudgery.

when i was a kid, i was really interested in books on ghost stories and the like. my 12 year-old son is the same way, so i think he may be on a path similar to my own. he's nearing the age that i was when i had my brief (and only) out-of-body thing happen. he has also told me that he has "dreams that come true" to use his words.

my 7-year-old i'm not sure about yet. he was born with a serious need to learn the golden rule, so that's what we're doing for him presently. funny quote from him the other day... he was supposed to get his bedroom straightened up, so my wife asks him how his room looks. without batting an eye he immediately responded, "like a spring day." :d i don't know where that came from... too funny.

PriestOfLight
07-26-2008, 10:10 PM
my sons are 5 and 7

we meditate together as often as i can get them too. i have taught them about energy and also how no one is more important then anyone else. we are all same.

we also discuss about planets and i often tell them of the planet maldek (sp?). we have had quite a few discussions on death (not by my choice) and i have related that they have an immortal soul that lives forever.

i never force my conversations and try to stay in a state of love when i tell them.

in the light and love of all that is

paul

3D Sunset
07-27-2008, 12:39 PM
my sons are 5 and 7
we have had quite a few discussions on death (not by my choice) and i have related that they have an immortal soul that lives forever.

i never force my conversations and try to stay in a state of love when i tell them.

it's interesting how often my kids bring up discussions of death (and reincarnation). i also take these opportunities to share our immortal existence and that resonates with them.

i also make a point of distinguishing between observable facts and beliefs or theories. for example, my 12 year old recently asked me about the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter. i mentioned that there is a theory that this was once a planet, that was somehow destroyed. that subsequently led to several follow on discussions about what may have happened to such a planet.

as a family we usually watch the ghost whisperer on friday nights. as well as being entertaining (they love to be scared by the ghosts early on in each episode), it has helped reinforce the concepts of immortal souls, attachment to physical existence, righting wrongs, karma, and the power of love.

thanks for your thoughts,

love and light,

3d sunset

soup
09-17-2008, 09:15 PM
i ran into some kids watching an et documentary with footage from mexico, and i told them the great usa uses et technology for military defense purposes...something suggested somewhere in the ra materials...


soup

Firewalker
09-18-2008, 11:36 AM
hey.

there was a loo quote about that somewhere, or perhaps it has slipped my mind and i am talking about quo, who also offer such things, but i think it was loo ra, who said to teach the creator to children as it is understood by the parents. on my scan of this thread i did not see anyone had quoted it.

i think it is fascinating how adept spiritually children of this time are. i know a friend of a friend with a very 'indigo' like child; levitation of objects, speaking to animals and whatnot, usually through 'guides'.

but what i think is more interesting is the closer to home concepts. my eleven (at the time) year old cousin was talking to me one day about how he is a little part of everyone he meets. i was quite astounded.

mellisamouse
09-18-2008, 12:17 PM
i try my best not to "teach" my almost 4 year old son anything, but rather confirm what he already knows...... which is an amaizing amount! :)

3D Sunset
09-18-2008, 01:13 PM
hey.

there was a loo quote about that somewhere, or perhaps it has slipped my mind and i am talking about quo, who also offer such things, but i think it was loo ra, who said to teach the creator to children as it is understood by the parents. on my scan of this thread i did not see anyone had quoted it.

thanks for that mental kick, firewalker. i think this is the quote you're referring to... don't know why i didn't think to include it in the original post.



the law of one, book ii, session 42
questioner: using the teach/learning relationship of parent to child, what type of actions would demonstrate the activation of the energy centers in sequence from red to violet?

ra: i am ra. this shall be the last full query of this working. the entity, child or adult, as you call it, is not an instrument to be played. the appropriate teach/learning device of parent to child is the open-hearted being-ness of the parent and the total acceptance of the beingness of the child. this will encompass whatever material the child entity has brought into the life experience in this plane.

there are two things especially important in this relationship other than the basic acceptance of the child by the parent. firstly, the experience of whatever means the parent uses to worship and give thanksgiving to the one infinite creator, should if possible be shared with the child entity upon a daily basis, as you would say. secondly, the compassion of parent to child may well be tempered by the understanding that the child entity shall learn the biases of service-to-others or service-to-self from the parental other-self.

this is the reason that some discipline is appropriate in the teach/learning. this does not apply to the activation of any one energy center for each entity is unique and each relationship with self and other-self doubly unique. the guidelines given are only general for this reason.

ra makes several important points here. acceptance, sharing of worship, and the use of discipline. the topic of discipline can be sensitive, i know, but we've all seen cases, i'm sure, where no form of consequences are taught for improper actions, which led to self-centered (at best) adults.

my wife and i are strong proponents of time-outs for younger children, and/or suspension of cherished things (toys, gadgets, tv time, peer time, etc.) for older children. all being accompanied by discussion of what the improper action was, how it did or may have harmed the self or other self, and why it was wrong.

what forms of discipline do others use?

3d sunset

3D Sunset
09-18-2008, 01:20 PM
i try my best not to "teach" my almost 4 year old son anything, but rather confirm what he already knows...... which is an amaizing amount! :)

i know what you mean. the other day our youngest daughter, a six year old, spontaneously gathered some pillows and initiated a meditation session with some dolls. i walked in to see my wife looking quizatively at her in the lotus position with a blissful look on her face, hands raised, plams up and eyes lightly closed. we looked at each other, shrugged, and went about our business. the session lasted about 10-15 mins until she was interrupted (by a cat as i recall).

my wife and i both meditate, but not in that position, and always in private. we don't know where she picked it up, but it certainly did look natural, and didn't appear to be the first time.

3d sunset

soup
09-18-2008, 09:10 PM
possibly the context of discipline ra was using refers to setting examples of self discipline and disciplines of the personality more than the popular context of disciplining children by way of acts such as spanking...


soup

Firewalker
09-19-2008, 02:40 AM
one of my close friends was a hugely rebellious young child. just came up with mischief. i don't think an example would do well here.

didn't stay in any school for too long either. but now he is far better. very well mannered. probably more so than me. he notices the little things.

i cannot fault his parents parenting. mostly because everything i consciously know of parenting could be written on the back of my hand. but i remember my mother telling me that when he was young, the only real way they could stop his 'expressiveness', to be put politely, was to take him into his room and break one of his toys.

sounds harsh, but it seemed the best thing to do from the results.

in2it
09-20-2008, 09:52 PM
i love what is being said here.
as a teacher i deal with 8-9 year olds daily.

ra would be a bit complex but my dad used to tell us stories as children about amazing things. so, i'm thinking probably it would be quite interesting to make parts of loo available for bedtime stories. who knows. i probably would have loved hearing some parts of it for sure at an early age.

one time when i was about 8yo my dad came over to talk while i was playing in the front yard. he said whisperingly, "you know what? there really are martians.." he went on to say a few more things about it and, i was excited more by the excitement he was expressing and his telling me his truth with hisout of the box ideas -but really- the ideas were not even a little bit weird to me -at all.

i thought he was (a little bit) talking down to me using the word martians - like i couldn't understand aliens. mostly tho i trusted him more for sharing his
beliefs with me. that feels like an honor to a child. they get talked down to a lot.

with my students, i try to remember what it was like at the age they are and respond respectfully and authentically. they seem to appreciate it a lot.
i love my students. they are beautiful people. i am lucky to work with them, humbled by the task and never feel equal to it.

last school year i had an unusual group that was totally into spirits, ghosts and out of body stuff. they were begging me to tell them any amount of information about it...(which was precious little as i want to keep my job) they knew i believe in life throughout the galaxy and beyond- having discussed that in class. sharing an opinion without forcing it leaves the door open and allows that feeling of mystery in life which is a great experience.

soup
09-21-2008, 03:25 PM
it may be that the word martians carrys with it some stigma of the little green man (or gray) which detracts from deeper implications. certainly it seems possible there are ancient ruins on mars, tunnels and so forth and likewise beings that built or inhabited them (as disclosed by enterprisemission evidence).

in day to day life though, i find greater utility in the "men are from mars, women are from venus" paradigm - from the perspective that every person embodies say a masculine and feminine side to various degrees of balance.

related to that idea may be some astrological symbolism such as venus a planet of love, mars a planet of aggression. mars being further from the sun may seem as a smaller, colder planet (unemotional) of greater separation and venus by contrast a larger warmer (emotional) planet of closer proximity.

somewhere ra discloses that there was a less belicose 3d experience on venus and that was part of the naive approach they held in contact with earth thousands of years ago.

i also think that ra mentions somewhere that the actions of teach/learning seem noble. here, the idea of teaching what one desires to learn comes to mind

soup
09-21-2008, 05:53 PM
in the first session, ra mentions "...indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or to teach/learn. there is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery clad being are many. thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the coarse of your teaching is a good effort to make. we can speak no more valiantly of your desire to serve..."

i've found in many cases that teachers seem to live to a greater extent fulfilled than most others. it may be that the nature of the veil was via creative intent designed to complement the teach/learn-learn/teach modes of living and so by living congruent with that very basic design intent, teachers attain fulfillment more easily than most others.


soup

litllady
09-24-2008, 07:40 AM
i wanted to add here how i feel i have passed on to my children the ideas of a law of love. mostly its through fantasy movies, so their mind can sift through things that sit with them.

last night we all watched 'the last mimzy'. for anyone who has not seen this, pls watch it. its perfect for children and adults. we laughed out loud (especailly when the parents start really freaking out after they saw her daughter floating). and i think there were a couple of tears also.

after wards, my oldest son was pumped. as soon as it was over, he was up walking around in circles pondering this movie. he asked questions, he wanted to understand it all, his mind was going back and forth from one thought to the next. he said there was no way he could go to bed because he couldn't stop thinking about it all(in a good way). it was cool.

i present alot of mabeys and what ifs when my children and i talk about god and life. i want them to weigh it for themselves, through life and their own experiences, of what life is about. teaching them to help others and think of others before their selves is something i believe in. my daughter has a girl in her class who struggles and she has taken to my daughter. instead of worrying about 'who her friends are' and what 'group' of friends she wants, she helps this little girl, sits with her at lunch, she is the only one that does this in her class. it makes me want to cry, seeing her so kind and gentle with those who need it. watching her blossom, its beautiful.

peace to all,
lynette

3D Sunset
09-24-2008, 10:17 AM
last night we all watched 'the last mimzy'. for anyone who has not seen this, pls watch it. its perfect for children and adults. we laughed out loud (especailly when the parents start really freaking out after they saw her daughter floating). and i think there were a couple of tears also.


thank you, lynette!

we rented "the last mimzy" several months ago, and i agree it was a wonderful movie for kids and parents alike. it can really be a challenge to find good movies for exposing our children to some of these topics. i mentioned earlier that my kids really love "ghost whisperer" every friday night.

what other movies/tv shows have you or others found that were effective?

thank you all in advance for sharing!

3d sunset

soup
09-24-2008, 11:44 PM
i watched bedazeled recently...a wonderful movie. in pondering it, i considered one of it's messages as if revealing a subtle tantric teaching, that a direct path of getting past desire can be going directly through desire in ways in which the whole desire mechanism becomes exhausted - then there can seem a freedom from desire which can allow room for altruism, which in some mysterious way may foster heavenly states of being.

in the law of one, there's an idea shared of experiencing all things desired, which may relate somehow. i think that the root of the word desire suggests "of the father", as if desires may have some sort of divine origin...which may be related to another word, problem. it may be that problems precipitated by desires help us grow and evolve. it may be that the root cause of many problems are simply due as consequence of our pursuit of desire, and so by exhausting our desires we precipitate fewer problems by way of them which seems to have potential of delivering us to more heavenly states of being.


soup

litllady
09-26-2008, 02:51 PM
hello 3d,

i ponder daily, how i can reflect onto my children the sense of oneness. fortunately, my children have seen my go through self awareness by caring for my mother. i struggled with this at times, and they saw this struggle. but over time, as i grew more humbled and patient, they joined in with me to help her do things. it became a family thing, not just me. many times grandma would need a drink or something, they helped lift that load sometimes off of me by taking her things. this meant, sometimes, we had to stop doing what we were doing. we had to stop thinking about our poor little ol me selves, and think about 'our other self' who needed us. i learned so much about myself that i didnt like, during this time. but, i grew and found a new way of thought and felt so much better about myself.

movies are great, fantasy movies are the best, it gets their mind turning. ive said in other posts that i also will encourage them to watch certain shows on the history channel...like mysteries of egypt, mysteries of history, i think anything mysterious sparks the light of wonderment.

my children and i read the harry potter books together. this was a great way to teach them to explore a fantasy as well as teaching them about finishing a goal. those are big books to read!through encouragement, and them seeing my excitement about how the books were better then the movies, they both read all the books. they both started reading them about ages 9 and 10 and within a year, they read them all. this was some great dedication of their time to venture into a world of creating. books are better then movies, but it is very hard to get children to read massive amounts of books. books set the story just like a movie, but we create in our minds ourselves how we see the book. it makes it more real, it places more meaning into the reader. emotions are touched more deeply. i know the harry potter stories can be viewed as too eccentric, too much magic ect....but it still shows how the light wins over the dark. it shows how the good find a way through working together and through unity.

cooking for others, is a great way also, to teach them how to do for others. cooking a meal and sharing it, being a part of the love that goes into the food and giving that love to someone, like a teacher, family members, nursing homes ect....

anything that shows them that there is power in doing for others, there is power in thinking of others for a united purpose.

back to the movies, oh what a list! et is wonderful, the family helping the et get back home. chronicles of narnia is one i love because it weighs the good and the bad and shows, even a child can tell the difference. my kids watch the golden compass with me, i think what they learned from that was there are deeper mysteries of this world that we dont understand. the mystery of 'dust' i felt was interesting. let the babes minds wonder, then later through experiences, hopefully they will have respect for the things we dont know or understand. i like to think i am teaching them that we really know very little and not to ever gain that ego that 'we know it all'.

another great movie we all watched recently is 'meet the robinsons'. if you have not seen this, you must! it depicts a science genius coming back in time and gives the idea of time travel, but in a subtle way. another great movie that my oldest son loved was 'the seeker'. great show! the child learns he is a part of something much bigger and goes through emotions of not wanting to be a part of this 'bigger' picture. but, in the end, he understands, it is what he is here for. i dont think there is any mystery fantasy movie that would be bad for children, unless the dark side wins, unless the selfish one prevails. most fantasy movies show the good outweighs the selfish.

i do love to spark that curious mind:)

much love,
lynette

soup
09-27-2008, 12:22 AM
possibly shows such as "desperate housewives" can help children recognize a feminine dominance as distinct from say a masculine dominant show like football. i also feel that shows with she-males and he-girls can help children recognize the feminine and masculine polarities as depicted in the opposite sex...that yes, there seem women who act like men and men who act like women and that's okay - that children may learn tolerance so..

i think in coastal california most people are hip to this, and it is a major theme in a lot of the media - to help the rest of the world grow tolerant so.

i can appreciate that many cultures may seem threatened by hollywood's media - though i think part of the reason hollywood seems financially abundant is due to the spiritual difference they are making. the same may be said for the music industry...

in a way, this may be a reason many incarnate now, to be able to enjoy the entertainment media which has never been available to humanity before in such great abundance.


soup

geoform
09-27-2008, 04:53 AM
hello, i am new to this forum (though i have 'lurked' a while).
my daughter is 18 now and, being relatively new to the loo myself, i cannot say i have raised her in the light of those teachings, specifically. however, i find much of it has been there in our lives anyway - some reached through other parallel teachings, much of it instinctive.

i have always shared everything with her as i have learned it myself. not to impose a belief, but to initiate discussion and explore things outside of what she might experience through social structures such as school and friends, and to encourage her to challenge for herself the things she would be taught there. we've covered some really deep ideas since she was tiny and it never dawned on me to speak to her 'as a child', as i have always seen her as an eternal and all-knowing soul, here to experience 'being'. i found that there has been very little she was 'too young' for. consequently i have heard some amazing things from her.

there is a downside to nurturing a free-thinking child. throughout school she openly and directly challenged unfairness. she was fearless against all forms of bullying. in the final years of school this was more often directed at teachers. (the whole "because i said so" culture got her down and she constantly sought for her teachers to challenge their behaviours. some responded positively and brought about changes to their approach. others were resentful that their power had been questioned and targeted her relentlessly. not all teachers are well-balanced. some, it appears, return to the classroom environment to build on the gratification of their childhood bullying from a new position of power).

i was often told by these teachers that she was 'difficult' or 'had an attitude'. you bet she did!

now she is pursuing these avenues in her young adulthood. she has moved away from an ambition to be a teacher herself, towards youth work and a desire to join the police force.

without being aware of the loo until recently, it is clear to me now that she is already set on a service-to-others path and far more advanced than myself in seeing others as herself, instinctively. however, it has proved very hard for her at times.

recently i cried out for help in a moment of despair and was brought to this forum and to david's work.

showing my daughter that she may well be a wanderer has been a gift i was able to give her to help her make sense of the times when her efforts seem futile.

thank you.

soup
09-27-2008, 10:07 PM
one of my best friends growing up became a police officer. through that, i learned that police officers go through an extensive selection process, part of which relates to not having such a high iq that one comes to points where they question the law which can seem a very hard edge black and white line of business. at some point of introspection one may come to see shades of gray. is it okay to run a redlight at 4am with nobody around after you've sat waiting for it to turn green for ten minutes? there can be a point where one sees legitimate exceptions to the generalizations and this is not good for the mind of the police officer because they start second guessing the law. furthermore, the awareness that our perception of appearances may be limited and imperfect to the extent we don't know the whole truth can fracture ones sense of justice, that we may not be the best to judge others or put others in a place to be judged for fear of falling to the same plight by way of such karma. there's an issue of power, that police officers may be susceptible to distortions of power and control by way of their position which may, in congruence to what the law of one suggests, may shorten a person's lifespan. regardless, i am glad for the help of so many peace officers out there who carry a nobility in their efforts without any sense of corruption - i hold a strong sense of compassion and gratitude for them because peace is promoted by way of their efforts.


soup

3D Sunset
11-25-2008, 07:57 AM
i recall ra saying that most wanderers tend to avoid parenthood due to an aversion to bringing another life into this mess. somehow though, i can't imagine a better stage on which to really get this balancing act of love and wisdom than with your offspring right here on 3d planet earth.

this thought occurred to me while i helped my daughter wrestle with some challenge she was going through recently. my love for her wanted to go solve the problem for her and protect her from all the pain and anguish associated with dealing with it. after working through this emotion though, i settled on the wisdom of simply listening to her, discussing the alternatives and possible outcomes, and then allowing her to define a direction and find her own way. and even though she didn't do it the way i would have, she did it her way and it worked out fine - and my tongue will eventually heal where i almost bit through it as she discovered her way.

it was a lot easier just teaching them to ride a bike.

love and light,

3d sunset

Liam
03-24-2009, 05:07 PM
i have just found this thread from a while back and i think it is an appropriate place to ask a question. i am seriously considering starting teacher training to become a primary/elementary teacher. the problem is, how do you teach kids and make them do what you want them to do without violating their free will? this week i have been getting some experience in a school with some 4 and 5 year old children and i am really struggling with the discipline side of things. the children have very short attention spans and the teachers are constantly telling them to listen, turn around, sit nicely etc. they often tell the children who are not behaving to move themselves to sit closer to the teacher where they can be watched. i personally have real trouble disciplining them as i constantly feel the need to be kind and not to distance myself from the children.

my mother is a principal of a school and i have spoken to her about this- her belief is that there is no way society could function if children did not go to school and were not disciplined by the teachers. she says that they would run wild and there would be total chaos. i can see this point but while at school they are being made to do a lot of things that they don't want to do. i have been thinking recently that the souls that chose to incarnate as children at this time would have been aware that they would have to attend school and would be told what to do by teachers. all the same i would love to hear the thoughts of others about this- by disciplining children in school are we violating their free will?

Purple Dragon
03-24-2009, 10:15 PM
i personally have real trouble disciplining them as i constantly feel the need to be kind and not to distance myself from the children.

i think it's awesome that you want to give the children the love and support that they need. i've never been a teacher but i have a little girl that's turning 3 this year and the only discipline we use right now is time-outs. i find if i just listen to what she is saying and just treat her like i would want to be treated (we are one after all!) she is usually pretty good. sure she can get excited, but what kid doesn't? i think when kids feel they are loved, they feel more secure and so they just want to have fun and share their love.

i could see a huge problem with teaching though, is that they aren't your kids, so you don't know how they act at home. but i think kid's are smart enough to know that there are rules that should be followed and what the reaction is going to be if they act up, as long as it's consistent. and if you are sharing your love with them, i think they will feel those vibrations and be more likely to listen to what you have to say.

personally i think it's the parents job to discipline the children, the teachers job is to teach more in-depth skills while enforcing the discipline basic's they should already have. but if the children are monsters by the time they get to you, i think they can still learn your rules of conduct. i imagine every parent now a days would be teaching their children at least the basics of knowing there will be results for their actions, so as long as you are consistent with your guidelines for them, they will listen to you because you have a good soul filled with love and children are good at picking that up. and giving guidelines and sharing your love can't possibly hurt their free will, i think it could only help them know that there are good souls in the world, and they are learning from one.

Blacksunshine
03-25-2009, 10:43 AM
just today my 10 year old asked me

"mom why do adults have spiritual dreams, but kids dont?"

what a question, for one, all dreams are spiritual to some extent. she's just a bit young to understand perhaps where dreams actually come from. i always try to explain things to her...but sometimes my wording is a bit over her head, tho she has developed an amazing vocabulary and ability to spell. ;)

i allow justice to be very open and available to beleifs of all kinds, i feel it's important at a young age to try to grasp all of them in order to really be clear to make a call in your decision making age. as well as understand that at the foundation of spiritualism, even be it religion is generally the same, and all beautiful.

i think it's fascinating how aware children are, and i just love how much they love the outdoors, the wind, the sand, the desert, the trees, the sun and the moon (expecially the moons phases and the things that the phases cause) they are just completely inspired by it all...to me it is all the evidential proof i need to conclude that we are that of nature, and i adore those that teach their children to respect it, value it, appreciate it, and of course be in it as much as possible.

as for teaching the law of one. i definately guide my child to embrace that we are all of one creator, we are here to live love and learn as much as possible, give, share, and seek at all times. i'm very blessed in that she is very much like me, making my teaching her be an easy task...for now anyway ;).

3D Sunset
04-06-2009, 08:28 AM
hi liam,

a lot of fodder for discussion in your questions. let's explore them some.


the problem is, how do you teach kids and make them do what you want them to do without violating their free will?

first i think it's important to note that you cannot make someone do what they don't want to do without violating their free will. speaking as a parent, the secret is finding out how to get the children to want to do what you want them to do. in loo terms, to get them to want to learn/teach what you are teach/learning. this cannot involve force, or coercion. it's about working with their individual personalities to find out how to help them arrive at the space where they are receptive to your teachings. i know this sounds rather obscure, so let me give a simple example from one of my children. when my youngest was 4, she started taking piano lessons. we found that practicing her lesson was a major issue for her, but she loved to play her own music. we negotiated an agreement wherein she practiced what her teacher (whom she loved and wanted to please) wanted her to learn, and after which she could give us a short recital of her own music (which was actually quite advanced, but ad hoc) and we listened intently, and praised her for afterward.


they often tell the children who are not behaving to move themselves to sit closer to the teacher where they can be watched.

another thing to remember is that children do want to please their teachers (parents, sitters, etc.). so just like training a pet, make sure that you are quick to praise those behaviors that you want to encourage, and try to ignore those behaviors you want to discourage. i've found that this, too, is key. if you react to behaviors that you want to discourage, it can actually have the opposite effect, because when a child is vying for your attention among 5-10 other children, negative attention is often just as satisfying as positive attention. obviously, if they are too disruptive or are ever dangerous to themselves or another child, then ignoring it won't work and a time-out is clearly called for.


i have been thinking recently that the souls that chose to incarnate as children at this time would have been aware that they would have to attend school and would be told what to do by teachers.

even though they may be old souls, they are young bodies and (conscious) minds, living behind the veil and possessing a full measure of free will in this incarnation. try to change your mindset. you are not telling them what to do, you are helping them remember something that they've forgotten and that they need to accomplish their purpose.

love and light

3d sunset

B8dude
07-25-2009, 01:36 PM
i like to thank everybody that posted on this topic. silvanus that was not only simple it was full of light.
thanks to other selves

evolving
11-03-2009, 12:17 PM
the problem is, how do you teach kids and make them do what you want them to do without violating their free will? this week i have been getting some experience in a school with some 4 and 5 year old children and i am really struggling with the discipline side of things. the children have very short attention spans and the teachers are constantly telling them to listen, turn around, sit nicely etc. they often tell the children who are not behaving to move themselves to sit closer to the teacher where they can be watched. i personally have real trouble disciplining them as i constantly feel the need to be kind and not to distance myself from the children.

if, in our teach/learning, we were to allow child body/mind/spirit complexes total free will, they would most likely choose to be outside and play all day and not learn what is in the curriculum. do you, or would you allow a four (earth) year old child body/mind/spirit complex to use the stove because they wished to do so (free will)? would you allow a child body/mind/spirit complex to drive a car at eleven years of age because the child body/mind/spirit complex wished to do so? because these child body/mind/spirit complexes are in the process of learning, it is not always in their best interests for them to do as they wish. this is where discipline is required. discipline is there to provide catalyst so that the child body/mind/spirit complex can use free will do decide the correct course of action. just as ra helps to guide us, we help to guide our children. just as ra makes mistakes, so do we. just as ra learns, so do we.

i have a 16 month old child body/mind/spirit complex daughter i am raising as a single father. i have wondered about how far along she will be spiritually when we come to dec 21 2012, and have come to the realization that her spiritual development is already complete. being she has a white/golden aura, she is a wanderer from the sixth density.

i have therefore concluded that her present child body/mind/spirit complex is here to help me on my path and to increase my experience and polarity to service to other-self in order to help me become eligable for ascendancy. close to the last four of my years were spent in relationships with what i have realized were negative polarity body/mind/spirit complexes (self serving women). this seriously reduced my positive polarity.

my daughter is the teacher and i am learning about love again. i am spoiling her with love, while at the same time ensuring her world is as happy as i can make it. there are times she is unhappy, but so be it. this density is as much about being unhappy as as it is about being happy. through our effective use of catalyst we gain polarity.

PositiveDebra
11-10-2009, 08:59 AM
hi

i have a 13th month old grandson half thai half english, when he waqs born my son looked at his eyes and said hes been here before, done it all, old soul and i could also see an old soul.. he has so much energy that he never stops, even when he is tired he will not give in, he looks, listens and takes everything in, i have never seen a child with so much energy. he does not have jar food, he has freshly cooked food, plenty of fruit so know he is not hyper on chemical additives etc..

when he was younger he was either 2 or 3 months, he spooked me and my husband, he was looking at me and i knew he was like scanning me or looking beyond me, then another time he done it to my husband, but when my husband thought my grandson was doing something on a deeper level as soon as the thought came in, my grandson knew and he stopped doing it... even how he looks at us in a strange way, he also looks like he daydreams for a few secones or so.

my son is very aware of energy, 2012 and so on, which is good. my sons philosophy is follow by example for his son and future children.

we dont know if he will always have so much energy or will quiten down, he dont even stop making noises, when we are out, he is the loudest child with his noise-chatter, yet thai children are very quite even those that you know are half thai and half foreign he is just different.

i am just wondering looking ahead if he keeps all this energy, what is the best way for him to direct his energy, as my son would not want a child very hyper that may be hard to control so to speak, my son/his wife and as we look after him each day want to be able to guide him right and not with so many rules and restriction, but we know all children have to have boundries and guide lines.

i have noticed also people take about children being a wanderer, how do you know this, or what is the charactrer/traits? i was told that he could be a star seed, but i do hate labels lol..

i know from what i have read a lot of hyper children are said to have add, and a lot of children that are bad are generally diagnoses with some lable or another, what is the best way to guide these chidren? at the moment we are having to say no on certain things that are a danger for him i.e. he will want to touch plugs although not as bad as he use to be, or he will want to crawl down to the pond, so we say no, but sternly as well as picking him up and taking away... as he is too young to understand fall conversation, he ded understand the word no, as he will then do something crafty and start to move back then he makes us laugh...

regards all
debra

evolving
11-10-2009, 08:40 PM
when he was younger he was either 2 or 3 months, he spooked me and my husband, he was looking at me and i knew he was like scanning me or looking beyond me

he was looking at your aura. infants know how to do this, and this is what they look at before their vision gets good enough to make out peoples features. infants get upset at people other than their parents, not because they can see them, but because the aura is different. they learn to trust the aura. this ability is almost always lost.


i know from what i have read a lot of hyper children are said to have add, and a lot of children that are bad are generally diagnoses with some lable or another, what is the best way to guide these chidren?

1) add can be caused by cellular phone use around a child, either when pregnant, or in the first seven years of life. always ensure that a distance of 3 or more feet is kept, and never let a child play with a cell phone that is on. think about it. a cell phone is a microwave transmitter. children's skulls are a fraction of the thickness of an adults, and are still soft, not having fully calcified. microwaves cook things. studies have been done absolutely proving this correlation, but big business again prevails in ensuring people do not know about it.

2) if the child is diagnosed as add, love him and pay special attention to him, always keeping him busy. it is the bored child that becomes the problem. no tv until at least after the age of three, and keep him occupied. definitely keep him away from drugs. they won't help other than dull his life.

3) if the child is diagnosed as add, he may not be. perhaps he just has lots of energy. love him and pay special attention to him, always keeping him busy. it is the bored child that becomes the problem. no tv until at least after the age of three, and keep him occupied. definitely keep him away from drugs. they won't help other than dull his life.

PositiveDebra
11-13-2009, 09:02 PM
i have also been reading up on indigo and crystal children, as said i hate labels, anyway with regards to add etc, thanks for the information as it is good to be preared for the future and was wondering when any signs may if at all show, but having said that, and this is what suprises me we have not heard of a high percentage of children with over active problems the children are different from western children, they are calm, placid you very rarely see a child having a tantrum, being cheeky/rude, young teenage children are very polite, yet even in thailand they have about 20-25 injections at such a young age like the west. my son is concerned about all the jabs babies have to have. the thai schooling seems to work, yet i would of thought if these new energy children are rebelling against the system from what i have read, why is it not happening over here? is it also because children here have been bought up with respect as this puzzles me, why is the west worse with all this add etc. also, when we see western children visit here or when we go home, it is almost like these children have a chip on their shoulder, and are real brats, now, not all that can be add etc, of that they are different as surely these new energy children is a world wide thing, is that lack of parental guidance, lack of respect or parents, teachers and themselves amongst other things? iin thailand it is very family motivated so if they are bad it reflects the family, i know a little bit of topic but sometimes things do not make sense, children whatever their energy need bounderies not a free leash as what is happening, they need to learn respect and not grow up with so much hate which is another issues that i cannot understand if these children are of a higher energy vibration, how can they have so much hate.

i am going to ask a silly question, why is it advisable to keep a child away from the tv until they are 3, not that our grandson is in front of one, we dont even have on at the as moment lol..

he is a very curious child and i mean curious more than i ever saw with our 3 when younger, and we do keep him occupied, but thankfully at the moment he does have a good concentration span and can play alone well in my bottom draw of spoons, plastic beakers etc.

i read with interest how these children are more telephathic and some may not speak to 3 or 4 years and that there is a lot of autism on the increase with children these days, my sons friend child has just been diagnosed with autism.

i mentioned in my prev thread about having to say no, but he is so defiant at 13 months and all he does is go back to what he was doing but instead of rushing back quick he does it almost in slow motion as if he is doing something different, very cleaver logic, anyway, the more we say no the more he carries on, so what is the best way than keep saying no? also is it worth talking via mind to him, i know we could keep pulling him back from whereever but he really does not give in, is no too negative to keep hearing?

it seems made that as a grandmother after bringing up 3 children i am asking these question as they were easy children, well except babies dad he broke the mould but still not as hard work as keeping grandson occupied lol..

debra

evolving
11-19-2009, 11:31 PM
hi debra,

i am sorry to have taken so long to answer your post. i have worked in china, thailand, africa, and the middle east, and lived in several places on the continents of north america and europe. i hope this experience gave me the correct insight to be able to answer your questions objectively.


i have also been reading up on indigo and crystal children, as said i hate labels, anyway with regards to add etc, thanks for the information as it is good to be preared for the future and was wondering when any signs may if at all show,
children often diagnosed with add are ones that get int trouble due to short attention spans, or because they are very intelligent and the material they are offered is not stimulating, thus losing their attention quickly. as well, having a short attention span is not always a bad thing for a child, as the child may grow out of it, especially if time is invested in the child, and adequate things for the child to concentrate on are provided.


but having said that, and this is what suprises me we have not heard of a high percentage of children with over active problems the children are different from western children, they are calm, placid you very rarely see a child having a tantrum, being cheeky/rude, young teenage children are very polite,
i know from working there, that culturally showing anger is seen as a bad thing, so you work towards teaching your children to not show anger, and deal with their emotions internally. whether this is a good or bad thing is disputable, but i will not go into that here.


yet even in thailand they have about 20-25 injections at such a young age like the west. my son is concerned about all the jabs babies have to have. the thai schooling seems to work, yet i would of thought if these new energy children are rebelling against the system from what i have read, why is it not happening over here? is it also because children here have been bought up with respect as this puzzles me, why is the west worse with all this add etc.
20-25 injections seems to me to be a great deal more than my daughter has had. there are doctors that speak out against all vaccines, stating that they cause inflammation of the brain, which in some cases can cause autism.


also, when we see western children visit here or when we go home, it is almost like these children have a chip on their shoulder, and are real brats, now, not all that can be add etc, of that they are different as surely these new energy children is a world wide thing, is that lack of parental guidance, lack of respect or parents, teachers and themselves amongst other things?
it may be due to abuse of some sort, which neglect rates the highest, being at about 45%. in the west, very often both parents work, thus not much time can be spent with the child(ren). it is sad, but true. the go go go lifestyle means the child(ren) spends more time in a week with friends, playing games (video or pc), and not spending more than a few hours a week with the parents.


in thailand it is very family motivated so if they are bad it reflects the family, i know a little bit of topic but sometimes things do not make sense, children whatever their energy need bounderies not a free leash as what is happening, they need to learn respect and not grow up with so much hate which is another issues that i cannot understand if these children are of a higher energy vibration, how can they have so much hate.
though in the west not setting boundaries is seen as allowing the child freedom, thus not stifling the spirit, it has had its implications in that there is much drug abuse and problems. neglect and other abuse causes anger... and simply very often, it is not the parents fault, but simply peer pressure which invites bad behaviour, and a lack of the ability to physically punish children in schools and elsewhere. this lack of physical punishment came about because the ability to do so was abused to heavily by some teachers etc, that it had to be removed. as a child, i was kicked, punched, and strapped with belt, inner of a tire band, hand, yard stick, ping pong paddles, and whatever some teachers could find.


i am going to ask a silly question, why is it advisable to keep a child away from the tv until they are 3, not that our grandson is in front of one, we dont even have on at the as moment lol..
tv is a single direction interaction, and therefore it does not provide stimulation of the mind. these are crucial years in the initial development of a child that should be a time of wonder, joy, stimulation, and learning!


he is a very curious child and i mean curious more than i ever saw with our 3 when younger, and we do keep him occupied, but thankfully at the moment he does have a good concentration span and can play alone well in my bottom draw of spoons, plastic beakers etc. it sounds to me that you provide him with things to do. i do the same for my daughter. she has a cupboard of her own in the kitchen, and i challenge myself to keep her occupied. if iever she gets bored and fed up, we go for a walk :)


i read with interest how these children are more telephathic and some may not speak to 3 or 4 years and that there is a lot of autism on the increase with children these days, my sons friend child has just been diagnosed with autism. as above, some doctors... or it could be natural. it happens, always has...


i mentioned in my prev thread about having to say no, but he is so defiant at 13 months and all he does is go back to what he was doing but instead of rushing back quick he does it almost in slow motion as if he is doing something different, very cleaver logic, anyway, the more we say no the more he carries on, so what is the best way than keep saying no? also is it worth talking via mind to him, i know we could keep pulling him back from whereever but he really does not give in, is no too negative to keep hearing? i lived beside a friend who has an autistic child, and rather than saying no, he would distract with something else. this is, of course, a tactic to use with all children. my daughter, though not autistic, is also devious at 16 months. she will slowly meander her way back to what she is not supposed to do. each time i simply pick her up, move her a distance away, putting her down facing the opposite direction, on her bottom. after three or so goes at it, she will move onto something else.


it seems made that as a grandmother after bringing up 3 children i am asking these question as they were easy children, well except babies dad he broke the mould but still not as hard work as keeping grandson occupied lol..
...but worth every second to me, and i am sure to you to. i'm not sure if i mentioned... i am a single father.

noppy
12-12-2009, 04:00 PM
there is a book by neale donald walsch called [please pm for title] it talks about stuff like this.

i say let children expres there emotions all of them !! i think they call it the 5 natural emotions, listen to you childeren, don't lie to your children and especialy about were baby's come from and how it works. i think that is the roots of all the problems in the world. emotional repression, sexual frustration, lies and fear that has been taught and allowed to happen.

maybe if you want to tell the law of one to your children, make a story from it. like fairytales and live by that truth or els your child think your just telling crap. ,

someone said; a parent don't teach the child to be a child, the child teach the parent to be a parent.

i myself am still a child but maybe by telling my perspective you can find your answer quicker.

KassandraLoves
12-20-2009, 05:15 PM
i have a 16 month old child body/mind/spirit complex daughter i am raising as a single father. i have wondered about how far along she will be spiritually when we come to dec 21 2012, and have come to the realization that her spiritual development is already complete. being she has a white/golden aura, she is a wanderer from the sixth density.

i have therefore concluded that her present child body/mind/spirit complex is here to help me on my path and to increase my experience and polarity to service to other-self in order to help me become eligable for ascendancy. close to the last four of my years were spent in relationships with what i have realized were negative polarity body/mind/spirit complexes (self serving women). this seriously reduced my positive polarity.

my daughter is the teacher and i am learning about love again. i am spoiling her with love, while at the same time ensuring her world is as happy as i can make it. there are times she is unhappy, but so be it. this density is as much about being unhappy as as it is about being happy. through our effective use of catalyst we gain polarity.

i absolutely love this. well said. i couldnt agree with you more on this line of thinking.

in fact, with the insurgence of wanderers incarnated as young people at this time, it is entirely more likely that your children are incredibly evolved and also probably of a higher density. after all, we need higher vibrational entities here to ease the transition for the rest...

we can see that every day as we see the children of today rejecting the systems we have in place because they make no sense to them... :)

i reeeeeaally love your last line of: this world is just as much about being unhappy as it is about being happy. best quote ive read in a long time! :d

evolving
12-20-2009, 11:22 PM
there is a book by neale donald walsch called [please pm for title] it talks about stuff like this.

i say let children expres there emotions all of them !! i think they call it the 5 natural emotions, listen to you childeren, don't lie to your children and especialy about were baby's come from and how it works. i think that is the roots of all the problems in the world. emotional repression, sexual frustration, lies and fear that has been taught and allowed to happen.

maybe if you want to tell the law of one to your children, make a story from it. like fairytales and live by that truth or els your child think your just telling crap. ,

someone said; a parent don't teach the child to be a child, the child teach the parent to be a parent.

i myself am still a child but maybe by telling my perspective you can find your answer quicker.

dearest noppy,

i have always allowed my daughter to cry if she wanted to. i believe that the release of pain and stress comes in the form of crying, and i am more than happy to be there for her. i'm half deaf, so it bothers me only half as much as other people :) similarly, i allow her to have her emotions, and simply am there for her while she has them. she is just at that age whereby she is testing the "no' word, so though i am firm with it, i allow her to be upset, and touch and comfort her in the process, explaining why not (even though she doesn't understand yet). she is more apt to cease crying and trying if i do this with her.

i also like your idea of the loo as a fairytale, though i don't think i want to tell it as such. i have thought of how i will tell her these things. as with everything, i will be honest and tell her the truth. she will understand the loo without a doubt better than i do, as she has less incarnate experience to "muddy the waters".

yours are wise words noppy. i shall heed them well. thank you for sharing :)


i absolutely love this. well said. i couldnt agree with you more on this line of thinking.

in fact, with the insurgence of wanderers incarnated as young people at this time, it is entirely more likely that your children are incredibly evolved and also probably of a higher density. after all, we need higher vibrational entities here to ease the transition for the rest...

we can see that every day as we see the children of today rejecting the systems we have in place because they make no sense to them... :)

i reeeeeaally love your last line of: this world is just as much about being unhappy as it is about being happy. best quote ive read in a long time! :d

dearest kassandra,

thank you for your kind words.

i am so honoured to have my daughter, this beautiful spirit, here with me, and i believe this is a case of a wanderer coming to the aid of another wanderer in distress. each lesson i am given in this plane astounds me more and more. if i may quote ra.


12.28 ra: ...the challenge/danger of the wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom of which it had incarnated to avert the destruction.i was, as per this quote, swept into the maelstrom and had lost my way, becoming karmicly involved. this only happened the last few years, but significant damage was done whereby my use of catalyst as much as came to a standstill. this left me in a very weak state whereby i lost polarity due to falling into "the sinkhole of indifference", and even gained negative polarity by trying to control the things around me from crashing down. though i had spent this life climbing the mountain, it was a much faster fall down.


52.9 ra: ...the wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher density catalyst.i therefore believe my daughter came here, specifically out of her great love, to help me remember and dedicate myself to service. she came at such a pivotal time and changed my path from one of indifference and negativity to one of service, so immediately prior to the harvest. the method in which this was achieved simply amazes me. using the instinct of the mind/body of this vehicle, i found myself in great service to her, and in that service i came to remember. it could have not been more perfect.
although the fall down was fast, within short time i have gone so much further up this mountain than i could have previously imagined. i am eternally in her debt.