The meek shall inherit the earth...

[FooSnik]

this statement has always puzzled me. first here is the definition of the word meek:


1. meek - humble in spirit or manner; suggesting retiring mildness or even cowed submissiveness; "meek and self-effacing"
mild, modest
humble - marked by meekness or modesty; not arrogant or prideful; "a humble apology"; "essentially humble...and self-effacing, he achieved the highest formal honors and distinctions"- b.k.malinowski
2. meek - very docile; "tame obedience"; "meek as a mouse"- langston hughes
tame
docile - willing to be taught or led or supervised or directed; "the docile masses of an enslaved nation"
3. meek - evidencing little spirit or courage; overly submissive or compliant; "compliant and anxious to suit his opinions of those of others"; "a fine fiery blast against meek conformity"- orville prescott; "she looked meek but had the heart of a lion"; "was submissive and subservient"
spiritless
submissive - inclined or willing to submit to orders or wishes of others or showing such inclination; "submissive servants"; "a submissive reply"; "replacing troublemakers with more submissive people"

i could never understand why people who "evidence little spirit or courage" get to inherit the earth. but i finally realized something! it is not necessarily a good thing to inherit the earth.

it is the ones who are afraid to let go of this 3d world that shall stay here and "inherit" it. the ones who don't have the courage to let go and move on to the next level. these are the meek ones that shall get what they asked for.

not me though. i am already half way outta here!

see ya!

foo :)

[litllady]

i dont find this totally true. for one, i find that the ones who willl still be here are ones that need more growth. two, i think some beings have already made a consciouses decision to stay in aiding the new age to start off on the right foot and to put in place the history of earth, once again. just like you had some way back when that chose to stay and help. the ones that choose to stay may have already been through the 4d thing, possibly, that is why, to me, we see the group of amazing children coming now (could they be from 6d?). i feel that some of us, took up this duty a long time ago, and have reincarnated many times during these chaotic times because that is when guidance is needed the most. i dont feel this is my first rodeo;) i prepare myself for this-i would like to paraphrase rhonda for a sec. when she said she felt -ready and engaged for service (or something like that)

some very old souls are awaiting the ride out of here, and some will get it...i just dont feel its my purpose, in fact, i feel my true purpose is just beginning. i dont fear leaving earth at all because i know that i can if i want. when i struggle with the feelings of how crazy things can get, my inner voice always says, 'you dont have to stay-you can go and partake another time' which shows me that nothing is by force. even if we agreed beyond this world to help in a united purpose, we can still back out because its our free will to only act when we are ready. but i also feel that earth is someplace that many of us agreed to guide through the purifications of 'man'.

one of the definitions in the dictionary for 'meek' was -spiritless. i must say that i have had the spirit within me my whole life. i knew it was there, even when i wanted to deny it.

if there are those who will leave earth, i feel they will only be the old souls who have completed their growth here. the ones who still need growth will stay. then, on the side lines, you have those that knew they were going to be able to ascend, but have chose to take the lesser traveled path because of an agreement to help man. its not all about 'ourselves'-its about 'everyone'. the cycle doesnt end here because we wont have 'everyone'. i dont come up with this from any book or channel, its what i have felt my whole life. we wont have 'everyone' for a very long time. so even if you ascend and make it to the 4d or whatever, at some point your going to realize, there is something missing of yourself, and that something is going to be the souls that arent with you. we are all one and at some point the idea of coming back to help will seem fit because without guidance, this cycle will last all the more longer.

my details may not be accurate but my point should be recognizable.

just my rambles
lynette

[billybobbutterball]

hi, guys

the dictionary definition of "meekness" is not equivalent to the biblical usage!

countless sermons and essays have examined the subject. the following is merely a snippet sampling from one christian site exploring the subject:

snip

a. many equate meekness with weakness.

1. many associate meekness with an attitude of allowing everyone to run over you because you are afraid of them.
2. this is not meekness. in fact, some of the strongest men who have ever lived have been meek.
b. look at a list of some people that the bible says were meek and see the fallacy of such thought.

1. moses was a great leader. he stood up to the most powerful leader in the world, pharaoh ramses. he led god’s people through the wilderness to the border of the promised land.
a. numbers 12:3 - “now the man moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.”
2. jesus could stand up to the winds and the waves. he also chased the moneychangers out of the temple twice with a whip made out of chords.

a. matthew 11:29 - “take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for i am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.”
ii. what does it mean to be meek?

snip
.... certainly not a "wimp"!!

best, bbb (i.e., big, bad & bodacious) :p

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

my details may not be accurate but my point should be recognizable.

just my rambles
lynette

yes lynette, very recognizable. your humble instincts bare the marks of a wandering entety, attracted by the sorrows of our brothers and sisters comming from all dimentions or densities that do not include "everyone", even the earth.

let's explore the idea that the earth itself is transitioning or ascending to the next density, the 4th. now the ones staying with her are submissive to the earth, allowing her inteligence to transmute our dna and carry us into the golden age. maybe this submissive appearence is what we might refer to as "meek". so you see, i look at it as pure belongingness, ppl who feel like they just belong without judgement, expectations or reaction to our mother earth's calling, just responsiveness, acceptance and willingness, add to the momentum surfing the galactic waves, gracefully.

a lot of the sorrowness we perceive also comes from the enteties who are scared that they will be left behind so to speak, and be forced to make a decision that does not include the earth, that's a bit sad, because we recognise the individual's free will slipping through their fingers and their reluctance to release their attachement (understandable), hard to describe.............

so this subject is touchy when faced with possibilities, our dear mother earth, some want to leave her, some want to stay, some want change, some do not, some must have control, but some are willing to ride the waves, cheering along, supporting her all the way. have you hugged the earth lately???:d ................sylvain.................

[Yusuf]

greetings to you all,
i'm not at all sure that 'meek' would be the original word, at least, not in the original language it was written in.
it always bothers me that english translations of ancient texts often do not reveal the original meanings of particular words.
i have, on occasions, had to refer to arabic writings when reading english translations of arabic scripture. very often you come across words in arabic that simply cannot be translated directly into english. some words even requiring half an a4 sheet of paper to explain properly in english. so you end up using a word that seems to be most suitable thereby losing the true meaning of the word. you end up with an approximation. do you see what i am getting at?
i would love to know the original language that," the meek shall inherit the earth," was written in. was it aramaic or ancient greek,etc?
when a possible controversional word comes up, one should always try to refer to the original text or, if that language is extinct, the earliest possible translation.

peace and love to you all

yusuf

[FooSnik]

so even if you ascend and make it to the 4d or whatever, at some point your going to realize, there is something missing of yourself, and that something is going to be the souls that arent with you. we are all one and at some point the idea of coming back to help will seem fit because without guidance, this cycle will last all the more longer.

my details may not be accurate but my point should be recognizable.

just my rambles
lynette

yes, i know i chose to be here. and i know what you mean by i will feel something missing if i just up and ran off. i hate goodbyes and i hate missing people which is probably why i chose to come back and why i am still here. so i agree. i want to stay with my loved ones. and my circle of loved onees should be widened to include all of creation since we are all one.


hi, guys

the dictionary definition of "meekness" is not equivalent to the biblical usage!

countless sermons and essays have examined the subject. the following is merely a snippet sampling from one christian site exploring the subject:

snip

a. many equate meekness with weakness.

1. many associate meekness with an attitude of allowing everyone to run over you because you are afraid of them.
2. this is not meekness. in fact, some of the strongest men who have ever lived have been meek.
b. look at a list of some people that the bible says were meek and see the fallacy of such thought.

1. moses was a great leader. he stood up to the most powerful leader in the world, pharaoh ramses. he led god’s people through the wilderness to the border of the promised land.
a. numbers 12:3 - “now the man moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.”
2. jesus could stand up to the winds and the waves. he also chased the moneychangers out of the temple twice with a whip made out of chords.

a. matthew 11:29 - “take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for i am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.”
ii. what does it mean to be meek?

snip
.... certainly not a "wimp"!!

best, bbb (i.e., big, bad & bodacious) :p

then, billybobbutterball, i suggest we come up with a more accurate word to use because the word means both weak/spiritless and humble which is two very different things.


greetings to you all,
i'm not at all sure that 'meek' would be the original word, at least, not in the original language it was written in.
it always bothers me that english translations of ancient texts often do not reveal the original meanings of particular words.
i have, on occasions, had to refer to arabic writings when reading english translations of arabic scripture. very often you come across words in arabic that simply cannot be translated directly into english. some words even requiring half an a4 sheet of paper to explain properly in english. so you end up using a word that seems to be most suitable thereby losing the true meaning of the word. you end up with an approximation. do you see what i am getting at?
i would love to know the original language that," the meek shall inherit the earth," was written in. was it aramaic or ancient greek,etc?
when a possible controversional word comes up, one should always try to refer to the original text or, if that language is extinct, the earliest possible translation.

peace and love to you all

yusuf

the word does seem too broad. it can be both derogatory and positive.

[mellisamouse]

i think of "meek" as down to earth, realistic, loving a full of honor for the greater good.

i definatly want to stay behind to help clean up the mess even though it does tend to be quite challenging in certain moments...but those moments allways pass by, usually with a renewed strength and vision.

if we each as individuals, evaluate where we were mentally and spiritually, 10 years ago, and then 5 years ago, and then last year, and even sometimes seeing the growth of a few months and days, you can see that if we as individuals have grown this much, then so has the collective, and we can raise every one up around us if we choose to stay....look at how many minds you may have helped to open as an individual, and how many seeds that have been planted that have not only grown, but are also now bearing seedsof their own. ;)

and those who choose to go on ahead, will be helping us as individuals from the other side as so many are today, even just by their legacies left behind etc....like a jesus, buddah,uncle joe, and granma or grandpa so and so.....legacies left behind are all seeds that are growing.....as bleek as things can seem in ceratin moments, the garden of paradise is still growing inspite of these moments of illusion...and the garden spreads with every new seed. :)

[FooSnik]

take this quote for example:


our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. it is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. we ask ourselves, who am i to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous? actually, who are you not to be? you are a child of god, your playing small doesn't serve the world. there's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. we are born to make manifest the glory of god that's within us. it's not just in some of us, it's in everyone. and as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. as we are liberated from our own fear our presence automatically liberates others. -marianne williamson for nelson mandela

to be humble is one thing. to me, humility means that you believe in equality and treat everyone with love and respect. i absolutely agree with that. that is a no brainer.

but it doesn't do ourselves or anyone else any good to make ourselves small and compliant. i think we should find the courage to be bold and bright with love and humility. to shine as bright as possible and revel in what we all intuitively know is the truth, which is that all there is is love. all else is distortion. to do this would be the opposite of weak and spiritless.

see where the confusion comes in?

[johnasmodeus]

i thought that the souls who are ready to experience 4d reality at the time of harvest will inherit the earth. would not meekness, which undoubtedly meant something different back then than what it means today, equate with patience, quiet longsuffering, and brotherly love? jesus' point seemed to be that "meek" was a good thing here...

[litllady]

i dont fear leaving the earth-the earth is not what i am choosing to hang on to. its the 'others' that need the guidance. the job is not finished, for some. some will have to stay, with no choice. some will stay, because that is what they signed up for. i dont 'want' to stay because im attached to earth or even loved ones. its all about the new beginnings, a very important time to start man off on the right path. think of how many people in the deepest of the chaos that is to come will be looking for those who understand what is going on.

humility is more then equality. to me, humility is also recognizing your true self in a submissive state of your being. you can be humble by just being aware of the magic of life. you can be humble by just being thankful for your day, in your worst of days. you can be humble by acknowledging you can always be doing more to help others. you can be humble by knowing its not just about 'ones' ascension but about many. when you are being tried and troubled, and you choose to be humbled, this takes strength. to be truly humble, in every trying moment, is a task that can take long to master.

ive truly enjoyed this thread-great posts from everyone

[Yusuf]

greetings to you all,
i found a direct translation of "the meek shall inherit the earth" made from the original aramaic directly into english.
'new testament "the galilean" edition.
translation mathew 5.5:- "blessed are the gentle for they shall inherit the earth"

peace and love to you all,

yusuf

[dazcox]

yeah, the earth isn't enough....

[Metamike]

maybe the hidden meaning in this verse is to understand spiritual awareness and positive polarization. that would make you seem pretty "meek". those are the ones that will be going on to fourth density on this planet and having the pleasure of taking part in that 100 fold harmony. :)

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

yeah, the earth isn't enough....

only when the earth becomes "enough" shall we inherit the cosmos. i feel this is the whole point. yes the earth is an important part of our journey perhaps more than we think. the overall state of beingness on this planet is reflected in the health of our mother earth. yes she can take care of herself, if we are not to tag along, but we have the opportunity to unite in oneness including earth, and allow loving consciousness to flow through her reaching the cosmos. i feel we should include earth as one of our brothers and sisters and treat her no better or no worse.

maybe it's time we finally recognise nature for what it is and stop putting ourselves outside of it. to me, earth represents humanity, and we are the conduit that connects her to the divine cosmos. our "bodies" act as an extention, reaching out for oneness. we are the earth's "sence", we, along with every other ray of light on this planet, represent her ability to perceive herself as herself, giving her life.

maybe we are here to learn from her, perhaps we are all here together for a reason. maybe we volunteered to sacrafice our differences, to recognise universal "truth", join hands, kiss and makup, forgive and forget then finally serrender our resistance, seperateness, hollowness in exchange for a new beginning.

just so happens that our planet is scheduled for such a change and this change is "starring" us in the face.....................sylvain..............

[litllady]

i went through some strange synchronism's yesterday talking with my mom about things. eventually last night i had the word 'nazareth' on my mind and was googling:p i have read alot of neat old text that could of been written shortly after the time of jesus but found some new ones last night that ive never read. supposedly they are some text that were found by the vatican that had been 'put away' or suppressed. so im reading, and one sentence struck me...

"jesus answered them: "happy are those that persevere to the end, for they shall inherit the earth."

who knows what the true words were that came out of the mouth of jesus-

but still, the reading of these text were very interesting for it depicts something that is sooo not in the bible. it shows jesus teaching about a mother and father. very interesting-would love to hear any facts or opinions about these 'gospels of peace'.

[litllady]

here is the link to the site that had the 'gospels of peace'

http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

but still, the reading of these text were very interesting for it depicts something that is sooo not in the bible. it shows jesus teaching about a mother and father. very interesting-would love to hear any facts or opinions about these 'gospels of peace'.

maybe the mother is earth, the father is the cosmos, and we are the children:d just a thought:rolleyes: ............sylvain..............

[dazcox]

yeah, the meek in which density? trust me, when i get to the density when you get a spaceship and the chance to help alien cultures i'm leaving the earth. there's so much to see out there why be stuck on one tiny planet amoung trillions? the earth might be the best planet but that doesn't mean we are prisoners here...

[Yusuf]

only when the earth becomes "enough" shall we inherit the cosmos. i feel this is the whole point. yes the earth is an important part of our journey perhaps more than we think. the overall state of beingness on this planet is reflected in the health of our mother earth. yes she can take care of herself, if we are not to tag along, but we have the opportunity to unite in oneness including earth, and allow loving consciousness to flow through her reaching the cosmos. i feel we should include earth as one of our brothers and sisters and treat her no better or no worse.

maybe it's time we finally recognise nature for what it is and stop putting ourselves outside of it. to me, earth represents humanity, and we are the conduit that connects her to the divine cosmos. our "bodies" act as an extention, reaching out for oneness. we are the earth's "sence", we, along with every other ray of light on this planet, represent her ability to perceive herself as herself, giving her life.

maybe we are here to learn from her, perhaps we are all here together for a reason. maybe we volunteered to sacrafice our differences, to recognise universal "truth", join hands, kiss and makup, forgive and forget then finally serrender our resistance, seperateness, hollowness in exchange for a new beginning.

just so happens that our planet is scheduled for such a change and this change is "starring" us in the face.....................sylvain..............

oh yes.you really put that well. thank you so much for reminding me and us to these facts.
peace and love to you,
yusuf

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

yeah, the meek in which density? trust me, when i get to the density when you get a spaceship and the chance to help alien cultures i'm leaving the earth. there's so much to see out there why be stuck on one tiny planet amoung trillions? the earth might be the best planet but that doesn't mean we are prisoners here...

how about the concept, "spaceship earth"? or even better, travelling through light. in my mind this is the density we voyage using craft. our so called "spaceships" in the next densities will most likely be enteties themselves and will therefore require the same type of relationships( resonance) we need to have with planetary spheres, like earth;) just my thoughts again.........sylvain................

[FooSnik]

greetings to you all,
i found a direct translation of "the meek shall inherit the earth" made from the original aramaic directly into english.
'new testament "the galilean" edition.
translation mathew 5.5:- "blessed are the gentle for they shall inherit the earth"

peace and love to you all,

yusuf

ah ha !!! thank you yusuf! that really clears things up. meek is such a cloudy word. but gentle makes a lot of sense.

peace and love to you too my friend.


i feel we should include earth as one of our brothers and sisters and treat her no better or no worse.

i think this balance is very important. i think this spiritual servitude goes too far some times in that people make themselves sooo humble that they become submissive to the point that they forfeit their own self-respect.

i remember being told a story when i was young, and i can't for the life of me remember who exactly the story was about, but it was about a great spiritual leader of the past. this leader was basically told by a general of the army to get down and lick the floor at the general's feet. and this spiritual leader did it. i remember wondering if that is a good example to be showing to his people. to just degrade yourself like that and not show people what it is to respect yourself with the exact same amount of love and respect that you show other people?

i still haven't totally made up my mind about how i feel about that, to be honest. i guess we make up our own mind about how we are going to take things like that. if you perceive that as a horrible disgraceful thing then it will be. but if you feel it is a wonderful service to offer someone else, to lick the feet where they are standing, then that is the way it will be for you.

i don't know.



maybe we volunteered to sacrafice our differences, to recognise universal "truth", join hands, kiss and makup, forgive and forget then finally serrender our resistance, seperateness, hollowness in exchange for a new beginning.

amen brother.

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

"meek" also stands for peaceable. here is a quote i found about "spaceship earth" on earth day march 21, 1971 at the ceremony of the ringing of the japanese peace bell: "may there only be peaceful and cheerful earth days to come for our beautiful spaceship earth as it continues to spin and circle in frigid space with its warm and fragile cargo of animate life."

the same person, also quoted here:"wars begin in the minds of man, and in those minds, love and compassion would have built the defenses of peace."
...................sylvain......................

[Nina]

dear foo and all,
took me while to remember where saw this. confirms gentle! turns out in matherne's review of "according to matthew". beatitude about "meek" - nina
www.doyletics.com/arj/tgosmrvw.htm

" in lecture nine beginning on page 160, steiner gives his translations of the beatitudes. his translations of the of "meek" and "poor in spirit" help infuse the familiar passages with new life. [for the sake of brevity, i have paraphrased slightly several of the beatitudes from steiner's words.]
...
beatitude 3.) the time has come for man to receive into his ego the power to curb and tame the passions and emotions of the astral body. blessed are those who have become meek through the power of their own ego; for it is they who will inherit the earth! [page 161]
in the christian mystery [page 268] steiner gives a passage from mabel collin’s book light on the path which explains “meek” as meaning having a gentle voice, one without power to wound another: “before the voice can speak in the presence of the masters, it must have lost the power to wound.”

[symbolon]

the meek shall inherit the earth...
it is quite possible that the meek wouldn't want the earth. also, i think if they absolutely will inherit the earth, they will do so....inadvertantly, since i cannot see the 'meek' planning to take over the earth deliberately, as they are by their very nature mild, passive, humble and submissive.

[mellisamouse]

well, technically.....the positive shall inherit the earth they create, and the negative shall inherit the earth they create...so in the end it is just as it should be. :)

jmho ;)

[naturaldds]

hello. i love words. i looked 'meek' up in the online etymology dictionary under natural language and got some info.

meek
c.1200, "gentle, courteous, kind," from o.n. mjukr "soft, pliant, gentle," from p.gmc. *meukaz (cf. goth. muka-modei "humility," du. muik "soft"), of uncertain origin. use to translate l. mansuetus from vulgate (see mansuetude). sense of "submissive" is from 1340.

from this i glean that responding lovingly rather than defensively (ego) to every conceivable situation, one can then do the will of the creator (our true self) rather than our own self serving ego's will (our narcissistic self). to me, this is the ultimate goal of awakening.

now i want to look up 'inherit'.

[WeR1]

revisiting the psitec site (thanks to alchemikey's post in april of 2007: the master key system :
"so i went to the bookstore yesterday and as usual i took a stroll down the new age section and a book jumped out at me called "the master key system" by charles f. haanel

the book was pretty cheap so i bought it with a 10 dollar bill and received 33 cents back which i took as a sign...i started reading the book which it recommends reading only one part one week at a time for 24 weeks but i can't seem to put it down :)

the book was originally published in 1912 and i just did some research on it to find out that it was banned in 1933 by the church and has only recently been republished...this material seems to be the source for the term "the law of attraction" as it goes into great detail about how thoughts create

i did a search for the book and found a site where it can be read for free so if anyone is interested here you go

http://www.psitek.net/pages/psitektmkscontents.html

peace,
mikey"


i happened upon the book [please pm for title] which gives encouragement to the meek among us (wanderers?) in chapter five.

perhaps we are too kind hearted to visciously respond similarly to those around us, even in desperate self defense;


it is the meek that inherit the earth, because such minds have the greatest creative power. what we create, we inherit; no more, no less. therefore, when we gain the power to create much, we shall inherit much.
to meet everything in the attitude of harmony is of the highest importance, because whatever we enter into harmony with, while in a state of aspiration, that we meet on the superior side.





...we do not master fate by compelling things to come our way; or by persuading persons to promote our objects in view. things will come of themselves when we demonstrate our ability to use things; and persons will cooperate with us in every way possible when we prove the superiority of both ourselves and our work.
the weakest mind of all is the domineering mind, and since such a mind has but little creative energy, the man who domineers cannot fulfill, legitimately, a single desire. and what he does control through force, will later on react to his own downfall.
it is the meek that inherit the earth, because such minds have the greatest creative power. what we create, we inherit; no more, no less. therefore, when we gain the power to create much, we shall inherit much.
to meet everything in the attitude of harmony is of the highest importance, because whatever we enter into harmony with, while in a state of aspiration, that we meet on the superior side.
the qualities that we enter into mental contact with, we absorb; therefore, it is a great advantage to mentally meet the superior only...