Chew on this piece of truth - from Einstein, rather call this the "Venting Thread"

[nem338nem]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080513122249.m3ds3b6j&show_article=1

here he says it all, especially about science and religion (they are one in the same)

p.s. "there is no religion higher than truth" - madame h.p. blavatsky

no one is chosen, you are all equal. god is a joke, it allows for an iconic savior figurehead, the godhead is the one infinite creator is within us all. religions suck so does 3rd density, i think i will go to la-la land. oh and by the way here is hint for how to get along real well in 3d, have a lot of money and bring your american express platinum card (don't go to 3d without it). oh can i see your id and passport because you are a freakin sheep. oh let's all follow and be a sheep, the government will take care of us.

wake up people!

i am pretty ****** off this morning, i feel mad as hell and i am not gonna take it anymore.

this message has been pain for by the ron paul campaign

[Robert Riedel]

hey now- just hang on for a minute there, gator-boy- i sense a bit of hostility here. have you hugged your tv today? here- have another beer- it'll be ok...

well, guess what? i'm freakin' mad as hell, and i'm not gonna take it anymore, either!!!:mad:

que fireworks in 3 hours and 33 minutes..... launch simulated/realistic alien spacecraft in 11 hours, 11 minutes..... now, take the air out of those rubber shoes-:d

i luv ya, man! :p

[nem338nem]

definition of big government:

big - large, fat, excessive

government - "govern" (1st part) - to control, or to herd as a sheepkeeper, to appoint the few chosen of like mind to implement their rules and be paid very well for it in the interest of the few.

"ment" (2nd part) - as derived from the word "meant" -as in what was meant by what was desired from the few, or "ment" as in cement or concrete (something that does not move or is stagnant); also drived from the word "mint" as in mint money and coin, so that control is thus implemented. and finally "meant" which root word is based on "mean"

to summize : mean control

we are all little sheep who have lost our way --ba ba ba

[AiR1k]

if you want people to respect where you are coming from-
don't you think you could have revised what was said, just a little bit? i hope you feel better.

god is not a joke. if we are all in essence the creator, and have this, "god fragment" within us- then i would certainly not like to perceive our very being as a, "joke."
this i agree with,
"there is no religion higher than truth" - madame h.p. blavatsky
but that's not to say religion is a bad thing--- it's something we can look at-
take a little bit from every religion, and find any connections within it-
we can take what resonates most with us as an individual ---and use that to form a better understanding of our own identity.

thank you for posting your link, i will make sure to check it out-----
much love to you,
-eric

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

depends on what you mean by a joke, the ego sees our christ consciousness or ( god image ) as a messia figure and puts it "out there". i find that deep seeded response funny myself. :)

but let's get serious. religions and others have raped our psyche by capitalizing on our ignorance. it's time to take back the powers of free will and let them stear us into a new golden age, governed by all equally, nurturing each other's "christ consciousness", or what ever you want to call it.:d how's that sound?..............sylvain.................

[Yanqui UXO]

anger only leads to anger. hate only leads to hate. the key is to love. nothing more, and nothing less.

[Aghsan Branch]

yes, we should take religion back from these fanatical zealots who find legitimazation in their war mongering. not just muslim but christian and jewish nwo crazies. but to say raping our psyche is taking it a little far.

religions have been fertile breeding grounds for new ideas and cultural revolutions. lets not forget that we need to go through evolution to have the psyche we currently do today. we needed revolutions of theories of law, love, art, equaltiy, unity, self-reliance.

maybe if we were all just brought up in indigenous tribes and didn't develop into this worldwide culture we wouldn't need "universal religions". but for some reason we have this worldwide spread of ideas. i am trying to say that these "world religions" i think that are being knocked, are what has led to this globalization, or at least a good part of the stimulus or urge to globalize, yes at the expense of real morality at times. we don't get rid of our grandfather when he gets nearsighted with cataracts and his ideas don't quite mesh with the world at large because we can still learn a thing or two from him.

but to take it further along the line can a person in this day and age still be a christian, jew, muslim whatever and still have a sincere thirst for the infinite of the one consciousness? and possibly attain to that state of being? there is a reason for everything, nothing happens in this world just because. so lets not just through out something just because...

the messiah figure served as an example for the possiblity of the infinite, of something unexpected happening or the increased potential for what we experience in 3d. people with these beliefs are ripe for opening to the limitless possiblities of consciousness.

that's my opinion, i appreciate you all giving yours.
peace and justice
aghasan

[urakei]

hi, i like to quote yoda
"fear is the path to the dark side... fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate.. hate leads to suffering."

the conclusion?
mad=anger=fear, i sense fear in you :p

get to know your fear. see how it plays you. learn to play it back.

it's sad that we're all a sheep to the money system. really hard to break this illusion in a global way. the only way now is global destruction imho. then all will wake up when money can't help them. the shepherd will become powerless. time will tell :d

chill out bro, just smile, learn and accept all that there is. trying to change is the path of fear, control and power. trying to accept is the path of love, assimilation and evolution. choose wisely :o

peace

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

religions have been fertile breeding grounds for new ideas and cultural revolutions. lets not forget that we need to go through evolution to have the psyche we currently do today. we needed revolutions of theories of law, love, art, equaltiy, unity, self-reliance.

i'd say that religion has, on the majority of of cases, spelled the end of cultural revolutions, and has suppressed sooooooo many times the momentum and transforming influence of ideology and philosophy. so sorry but i find that "raping" comment was just and accurate and perhaps a little bit of an understatement if you concider the level of evolution we could be at, at this time. very sad indeed, and a great source of sorrow, but who am i to know? just my limited perception here in 3d, at this time. spritual teachings that emphasise oneness of course, are not religions, as far as i know.........................sylvain.............. .............

[nem338nem]

the balance is not fear, bro, don't live with it. but awareness i do yoda. you see, when you find that we are all one, you then wish ro carry as many over the top as possible. do i accept death without fear absolutly---- or else fear would not resonate within you in this posting (as well as others) that is why a few responses have been about "anti - fear" bro. apparrently there is a reflection going on to the opposite degree. as you habe voticed i have implicitely mentioned time and again "no fear" bro!

with love hope you get it once again ---- awareness

not fear!

[Rhonda]

are we ready to stop playing ?


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080513122249.m3ds3b6j&show_article=1

here he says it all, especially about science and religion (they are one in the same) p.s. "there is no religion higher than truth" - madame h.p. blavatsky


it is known, children like to play games: "childish"

"the word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses"

- i take this as we are attempting to label, thus then we have to describe it which then leads to debats, then the games begin: who will "win" on what god is and/or means

"the bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish"

- where's the beef", were is the truth, who / what can prove one version vs another, is it whole or less than, again debates, games

"as far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. otherwise i cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."

- he saw his own value in him selve as well as the same value in another. the value had no other value than itself.

he wanted the games (labeling, debating, value, power) to stop, to stop going round and around as in the childhood ride, the merry-go round

can it stop ? our own thoughts, words and actions are a start. :)

[johnasmodeus]

animosity takes us nowhere we want to go. it's fun, like a carnival ride, but carnival rides tend to go in circles. i haven't found one yet that actually brings you anywhere but where you started from.

have you anything constructive/additive/positive to add to the discussion? blaming sets up an "other." setting up an "other" and then projecting anger towards it strengthens it and weakens us. what's more, it is one of the many seemingly innocuous first steps down the separation path. if it is your hope to polarize towards the negative end of the spectrum, i don't think we will be of much help to you here.

just don't look

just don't look

just don't look

at the mo----nsters

:d

[transiten]

goodmorning

i don't know how nem38nem really feels, since i can't see or hear him/her. as for myself, i wake up worried,sad or mad for some time now. i didn't choose to be in that state of mind but i work on alleviating it during the day by not projecting it onto others, but balance it out with saying something kind, doing something for someone, even if i initially don't feel like it, watching my own reactions since i now i've been looking into my shadow long enough to know where my feelings come from.

if someone is mad, depressed or living in total darkness the answer is not to say "don't you see the light? cheer up, love is the answer!!!"...but to be present, to accept and understand even if the key of course is love since you cannot make that demand upon someone who doesn' t feel it. actually that demand might reflect your own fear for someone elses pain that might point to the pain and fear you're trying to block out with an overly optimistic attitude. i'm talking from my own experience, from both sides.

moralistic attitudes just make things worse, in my universe at least. sometimes an emotional honest outbreak is liberating. let it out, the sooner the better. if we supress our anger it will finally kill us all. i was crying:( from frustration this morning, now i feel better:)

thankyou nem338nem from transiten.

[Robert Riedel]

goodmorning

i don't know how nem38nem really feels, since i can't see or hear him/her. as for myself, i wake up worried,sad or mad for some time now. i didn't choose to be in that state of mind but i work on alleviating it during the day by not projecting it onto others, but balance it out with saying something kind, doing something for someone, even if i initially don't feel like it, watching my own reactions since i now i've been looking into my shadow long enough to know where my feelings come from.

if someone is mad, depressed or living in total darkness the answer is not to say "don't you see the light? cheer up, love is the answer!!!"...but to be present, to accept and understand even if the key of course is love since you cannot make that demand upon someone who doesn' t feel it. actually that demand might reflect your own fear for someone elses pain that might point to the pain and fear you're trying to block out with an overly optimistic attitude. i'm talking from my own experience, from both sides.

moralistic attitudes just make things worse, in my universe at least. sometimes an emotional honest outbreak is liberating. let it out, the sooner the better. if we supress our anger it will finally kill us all. i was crying:( from frustration this morning, now i feel better:)

thankyou nem338nem from transiten.



animosity takes us nowhere we want to go. it's fun, like a carnival ride, but carnival rides tend to go in circles. i haven't found one yet that actually brings you anywhere but where you started from.

have you anything constructive/additive/positive to add to the discussion? blaming sets up an "other." setting up an "other" and then projecting anger towards it strengthens it and weakens us. what's more, it is one of the many seemingly innocuous first steps down the separation path. if it is your hope to polarize towards the negative end of the spectrum, i don't think we will be of much help to you here.

just don't look

just don't look

just don't look

at the mo----nsters

:d



quote:
originally posted by transiten

"if we supress our anger it will finally kill us all. i was crying from frustration this morning, now i feel better

thankyou nem338nem from transiten."


yes, yes and, well, yepsolutely, liliane! that is the topic of this thread- v-e-n-t-i-n-g! and it can absolutely lead to good/god results!


quote:
"originally posted by johnasmodeus
animosity takes us nowhere we want to go

just don't look

just don't look

just don't look

at the mo----nsters"


got a song for ya....santana-put your lights on (the wraith)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5a0oatzrxe



yo- nelson! hey now, don't look back, man, but you've got a posse on your "6." ya better come down off your horsey right now, partner, and drink yer milk!- wah-ha!

i have been accused of getting it, from time to time, but i just don't get it with some- looky here, folks- the train is pulling out of the station, as we speak- and, of course, it is your freewill choice to stay behind in la la land, or jump onboard this puppy, 'cus she's leaving "town!"

this ascention event is occuring like, now! you are involved in the "ultimate reality show," and this evolution will not be televised in hd tv. it is why you're here- remember?!!!

this is not all gonna be fun-n-roses, my fine forum friends- and i, for one ain't gonna just sit around and wait for some spaceship to come and get me- how to you know it won't just haul yer bottom off to another prison planet?

righteous anger absolutely has it's place in the greater scheme of things- and has led humanity to a few wonderful places over time- places like freedom, and democracy- but- ya got to get that yoke off of yer neck, if you ever wish to become a "free citizen" of the universal community, which is your birth-right!

so, like david ickey always says: wakey, wakey, people!

bob

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

[quote=transiten;32963]goodmorning

if someone is mad, depressed or living in total darkness the answer is not to say "don't you see the light? cheer up, love is the answer!!!"...but to be present, to accept and understand even if the key of course is love since you cannot make that demand upon someone who doesn' t feel it. actually that demand might reflect your own fear for someone elses pain that might point to the pain and fear you're trying to block out with an overly optimistic attitude. i'm talking from my own experience, from both sides.

moralistic attitudes just make things worse, in my universe at least. sometimes an emotional honest outbreak is liberating. let it out, the sooner the better. if we supress our anger it will finally kill us all. i was crying:( from frustration this morning, now i feel better:)
quote]

that makes a lot a sence liliane;) i would like to second that. sometimes we forget about the subtleties and discredit their wonderfull healing powers. radiating presence and awareness sometimes involve pointing things out to ourselves, accepting it and finding the "love" within. but as you mentionned, it also involves releasing bottle up energy, especially ancient dormant energy that was stored before the "awakening" thanks to our evergrowing sence of acceptance, we can safely surrender that energy as catalyst ( growth experience )...............sylvain.....................

[FooSnik]

yeah, i went through an anger stage too when i finally figured out what was really going on. the whole charade that the elite throw to keep us placated and distracted from the truth. the truth is that they are physically and emotionally leaching and sucking us dry with fear and interest rates. i walked around with my middle finger in the air for a long time. both figuratively and literally.

but i signed up for all of this knowing how challenging it was going to be. and it is challenging. but walking around with my middle finger in the air is not helping me or anybody else either. it is possible to find a healthy, peaceful place both within yourself and within this thunderstorm of a 3d world we live in called earth.

challenging it may be but the fact that you signed up for this and you are here right now means that you are a powerful soul and are capable of this challenge.

[transiten]

to everything, turn, turn, turn,
there is a season, turn, turn, turn
and a time for every purpose under heaven...

[Muse]

anger is a wonderful thing. when it comes up, it tells us we have a belief in something that may not be true. we simply can't get angry about something we don't believe in, so when anger raises its beautiful head, it is calling us to inquiry into what we believe to be true.

hey, and besides that... is it true that we are not supposed to get angry? who came up with that idea? all emotions are valid and fully allowed to be a part of all-that-is or they would not exist.

this idea is in my opinion spiritual bullcrap we have been handed. gotta be loving and think positive thoughts above all else ... is not the way of it. reality is what it is and anger has every right to exist because it does. i say feel it fully. feeling the burn, burns right through it ... out and through the other side of any suffering. and in so doing, before you know it, you find you are no longer angry. :cool:

[nem338nem]

always remember as being one , their is the "observer and the observed" , which are one in the same. how could they not be if you are a fragment of (god) the infinite creator. fine, we are unique yet one. this means we "bitch" at oursevelves to ourselve, otherwise how could we express ourselves. answer: only to each other. hope you guys get that. i am not trying to be right, just a perspective. you see when it gets down to "closing time" let's call it 2012. we shall look at each other as one.

you should take no offense to anger/negative just be aware that it exist. as david icke put it so elequantly today. "it is not a matter if we go with the change. it is a matter if we choose to". think about what david said at the enigma 2012 panel. "we make our own choice"

[1VibrationalEnergy]

anger is a wonderful thing. when it comes up, it tells us we have a belief in something that may not be true. we simply can't get angry about something we don't believe in, so when anger raises its beautiful head, it is calling us to inquiry into what we believe to be true.

hey, and besides that... is it true that we are not supposed to get angry? who came up with that idea? all emotions are valid and fully allowed to be a part of all-that-is or they would not exist.

this idea is in my opinion spiritual bullcrap we have been handed. gotta be loving and think positive thoughts above all else ... is not the way of it. reality is what it is and anger has every right to exist because it does. i say feel it fully. feeling the burn, burns right through it ... out and through the other side of any suffering. and in so doing, before you know it, you find you are no longer angry. :cool:


my dad also get angry alot at everything..."how stupid people are", "treehuggers", "liberals" he is against it all.
i think his anger is out of confusion, fear, and greed. he fears he will lose all his money if the world starts to change. . .

[urakei]

the balance is not fear, bro, don't live with it. but awareness i do yoda. you see, when you find that we are all one, you then wish ro carry as many over the top as possible. do i accept death without fear absolutly---- or else fear would not resonate within you in this posting (as well as others) that is why a few responses have been about "anti - fear" bro. apparrently there is a reflection going on to the opposite degree. as you habe voticed i have implicitely mentioned time and again "no fear" bro!

with love hope you get it once again ---- awareness

not fear!

i have to agree with you on this. i like your way of saying of perspective. this reminds me too that emotion is something that we should recognize and treasure too. if one is aware, emotions will be experienced in a whole new way rather than being in ignorance and letting it consume us. i believe this is one of the aspects that makes us "human" and a great learning experience that should not be disregarded.

i guess i have forgotten how to express my anger...... :p

peace and love

[larissa]

this is a thought provoking thread. if einstein was just venting when he wrote that letter, then he wasn't necessarily giving his true opinion about god. when i vent, i can say all sorts of things i don't mean, but just express the emotion of the moment.

venting on this forum is a good thing. it gives a balance to all that peace, may love be with you, that can make a frustrated irritated person want to throw up. these emotions are what we do in 3d, there's a reason for them. trying to hide the negative ones only retards development.

the trick is to be aware of the emotion, let it come through, but not let it get out of control and destroy. reminds me of the analogy of breaking a wild horse, (the bucking being the wild emotions). you go with the motion of the horse, you don't resist it, and you don't fall off. eventually the horse will become tired and stop it's bucking. you'll have a horse you can control.

[nem338nem]

you know if you read the law of one series ra mentions " take in all experiences", ponder that for a moment and thus you can validate all emotions. how else could the creator (we) not experience ourselves without acknowledging all. we gotta eat dirt too, and spit it out because we don't like it and be p****d off for acknowledging we we don't like it.

make sense?

[charran]

i saw the word religion used in a below post and i thought i would comment on how the word is used now in our reality, for the word religion used to not be a "dirty" word like it is today, but it used to have a positive connotation. nowadays, what people see/feel in the word is the belief that they lose their free will to do or be something when this word is used. it had an entirely different connotation in my parent's time. this saddens me because i can't see how anyone can separate religion from the soul of each of us. since we each have a soul, don't we each have our own religion from a unique perspective as one of god's children? isn't this the secret of why "organized religions" can falter but the "religion of the soul" is can never be exorcised from us?

if you look it up in the dictionary it has the following meanings.

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the christian religion; the buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, archaic. religious rites.
8. archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
—idiom
9. get religion, informal.
a. to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
b. to resolve to mend one's errant ways: the company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.

i would say that mainstream media has changed the word to have a more selfish connotation to allow consumerism to flourish...but we are far more than consumers that help companies increase the bottom line.

charran