CERN Particle Accelerator

[nem338nem]

for those of you with interest in cern, the atom collider that is to smash protons at ultra high speed in order to find "the god particle" or (cosmic sap -sub atomic particle) by re-creating the big bang. it is now scheduled to turn on in may. this may have an unbelievable impact on time travel as well as a plethora of various "changing of the rules" in terms of re-writing modern physics laws and theories. here is a very interesting look at the atlas detector: http://atlasexperiment.org/

the more interesting aspect from viewing the detector is the sybology of the shape which looks like the trumpet or stairway to heaven that was once attempted in babylon until yahweh decided it was not appropriate at that time for humanity (according to a very good interview with william henry last week on coast to coast), yet now here we are again re attempting. perhaps the time is right. what are your thoughts?

p.s. - it would be great if david could do another interview on coast to coast soon. things are changing very fast as this 4-d energy keeps streaming in.

[kac527]

your timing is impecable nem... i downloaded the wm. henry interview from coast to coast just last night and listened to it this morning on a long drive i had to take. all i can say is "fascinating!!!!!" i was literally giddy with excitement after listening to that interview. those of us who are seeking the truth(s) are truly blessed indeed. i was speaking to my father today who started in on a negative rant about one of the current presidential candidates and i just stopped him and said this:

"dad, whoever wins the election is supposed to win the election, period. stop wasting your time and energy fretting about what you have no control over. if i didn't know some of these wonderful truths i've been blessed to discover (all of what we know and share here at dc and beyond) i would be literally freaking out and miserable in my life because from an average american viewpoint, in the political sense, we're screwed...." but i'm excited about life and the future because we are in for some wonderful surprises!"

and that goes for all of us, no matter what part of the world we live in (sorry to even mention american politics, yawn...).

so back to this "god particle" detector... the latest "tower of babel"... it's just crazy! i find it amazing that the flipping of the switch is scheduled for sometime in may but according to the prophecies i've read of late, this is right on schedule and no one knows for sure what will happen. be sure to check this out.

i agree, it would be great to hear from david again soon...

kelly

[meganarline]

p.s. - it would be great if david could do another interview on coast to coast soon. things are changing very fast as this 4-d energy keeps streaming in.

on that note i emailed george noory and art bell and said that i would love to see david wilcock on coast to coast. that i had heard him at the conscious life expo and thought that he had some new information that would be great for the listeners.

mailto:george@coasttocoastam.com
mailto:artbell@mindspring.com

here are their email addresses.

megan

[nem338nem]

i think this year is where the "rubber meets the road". you when i was on the atlantean cruise with david & friends he always mentioned that he saw 2008 as a "bifurcation-point" (a splitting off , if you will). we are now seeing that people are not wanting to just believe anymore, but that they wish to know! as if there is now a greater awakening, and the mass consciousness is not wlling to stay asleep any longer. for those that continue to sleep they will see thier shadows reflected upon themselves with greater intensity or levels of inconveinces as ra says. and as their is a collective awakening we shall also see an equal/opposite type of balancing, in that great mysteries will attain answers (such as cern) and greater technologies related directly to consciousness and the opening of the heart chakra may be realized. no more oil, no more war. new technologies: engines that can run on water, free energy devices that were once quelled by the neg-elite, etc..

a quote from my reading from david oct. 15, 2004:

"for as we awaken, those neg-elite will naturally break down and give way to the influences of love, but for now they are dutifully doing their job in reflecting humanity's shadow upon themselves, in so far as they have been cruel, selfish, and manupilitive to each other therein!" "so you can truly the game is rigged. there shall be victory over the positive"

[angelboy]

hi...dont mean to be ignorantly and inadvertantly stupid but this undeniably has a certain dan brown thing about it doesnt it? i read angels and demons and the cern /''god particle'' was obviously amazingly refreshing to read and to hear that this thing is actually being done is nothing less than organically inspiring and exciting.
my question is is that do you think dan brown had any pre-knowledge of this information and if so how? also do you think this info if concluded to confirm to be successful will it be brought to the public mainstrean?

there are such amazing times ahead, this i feel i am sure of. i just hope we are all here to see it...
peace & love

[nem338nem]

sorry gang i royally messed up this quote i wrote:

"so you can truly the game is rigged. there shall be victory over the positive"

it should have said:

"so you can truly sat that the game is rigged. there shall be no victory over the positive"

thanks and hey meg i will send those e-mails to c2c also. good idea

[billybobbutterball]

nem 338: sorry gang i royally messed up this quote i wrote:

"so you can truly the game is rigged. there shall be victory over the positive"

it should have said:

"so you can truly sat that the game is rigged. there shall be no victory over the positive"


billybob's wise saying #1111 ..."if at first you don't succeed, don't be a darn fool about it, quit! ... sat what i'm hinting at here, nem? :)

(apologies to w.c. field )

[nem338nem]

thanks billy bob,

your right i think i will quit. ok say is correct (or is that corect ha ha)

[billybobbutterball]

hi, guys. i'm not sure about the value of the dern as it may be in fact a very expensive wild goose chase. the big bang could be from the git-go a big conceptual fizzle. if so, what could be disclosed after they throw the big switch in may? my guess is ... $$$$$ >----> d (d for drain):( recently the news came that an ultra-sensitive super-expensive test did not pick up any evidence of dark energy... in a strange flip flop of logic they were praised for the fact that they didn't detect anything! which boils down to the fact that they had eliminated possible problems with "static" interferences:cool:

a contending theory is that of an electrical universe...a welcome alternative in that it sweeps away the need for a lot of patchwork jerry-built junk created by the need to prop up the current conceptual astromonstrosities.
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"there are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe them." —george orwell

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"consensus discourages dissent... it is the enemy of science, just as it is the triumph of politics. a theory accepted by 99 percent of scientists may be wrong. committees... that decide which projects shall be funded are inevitably run by scientists who are at peace with the dominant theory. changing the consensus on cosmology will be an arduous task, like turning a supertanker with a broken rudder.
...the competition of theories has been the driving force behind scientific progress. isolated individuals and private companies have been the most fruitful sources of this advance.”
—paraphrasing tom bethell from his book, the politically incorrect guide to science

snip

this highlights a problem faced by the nobel prize committee. if an award is granted too soon after one of science's incremental steps their decision may shortly prove to be an embarrassment. i predict that the nobel prize in physics for 2006 will have some present committee members red-faced because the "big bang" theory it rewards is already dead! technically, the big bang is not even a theory. it is a hypothesis that, despite the nobel committee's imprimatur, remains devoid of real experimental and descriptive verification.
strictly, theories are hypotheses that have been tested and found valid. the big bang is a highly adaptable hypothesis that has been repeatedly modified after failing tests. some of those modifications are incredible, involving the invention of "dark" matter that responds to gravity but not to electromagnetic radiation. there is no known matter that does not involve electric charge and/or magnetism, so how is this possible? more recently, "dark energy" has been added to the bang because it is perceived that it is accelerating. the big bang is, by scientific standards, an execrable hypothesis that defies the principles of physics and common sense. future historians of science will judge this era insane.

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http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=d4fsrk24&pf=yes

billybob -- waiting for the guys in white suits


for those of you with interest in cern, the atom collider that is to smash protons at ultra high speed in order to find "the god particle" or (cosmic sap -sub atomic particle) by re-creating the big bang. it is now scheduled to turn on in may. this may have an unbelievable impact on time travel as well as a plethora of various "changing of the rules" in terms of re-writing modern physics laws and theories. here is a very interesting look at the atlas detector: http://atlasexperiment.org/

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[SuperManny]

on that note i emailed george noory and art bell and said that i would love to see david wilcock on coast to coast. that i had heard him at the conscious life expo and thought that he had some new information that would be great for the listeners.

mailto:george@coasttocoastam.com
mailto:artbell@mindspring.com

here are their email addresses.

megan
great idea megan! art isn't that involved anymore, tho, he only does a couple shows a year.

ian usually does 2-3 shows a week, depending if you get "live" or not. and we could email the show's producers too. here are their email addresses.

ian@coasttocoastam.com
lisa@coasttocoastam.com
tom@coasttocoastam.com
lex@coasttocoastam.com
shawn@coasttocoastam.com

[Sigini]

has mr. wilcock commented about the cern super collider that is about to be cranked up any day now? i know that they started to build one in texas years ago and the legislature decided it could end the world and stopped it!

"while physicists have the logistics of the lhc well in hand ideas about its outcome are strictly theoretical. according to one scenario tiny black holes could be produced which hopefully would decay into what is known as hawking radiation (the tinier the black hole, the faster it evaporates). if these black holes fail to decay, however, the consequences could be disasterous. cern software developer ran livneh has expressed some concerns about the project:
this physical realm is unknown, and dangerous phenomena might arise…any physicist will tell you that there is no way to prove that generated black holes will decay. the consequences of being mistaken are unfathomable. this subject deserves serious unbiased discussion."

link:
http://techfreep.com/worlds-largest-supercollider-could-destroy-the-universe.htm

[moderator: please limit discussion to the possibilities of this occuring and refrain from conspiracy dialogue]

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

they probably did, will, have and yes i think they probably decay, in time.;) they are what they are,toys for boys & girls too:d ......sylvain.......

[~M^E~]

interesting site.
too bad the newest article on there is a year and half old:(

[Sigini]

thanks for responding ~m^e~ and silvanus.
i was not trying to get a conspiracy thread going. i really need some help from people whose left brains are highly developed. clearly, that is the case with mr. wilcock. my brother was a legislator in texas during the superconducting supercollider days and he was against it because of the possible negative effects. i was raising little kids and it really did scare me when he said they were going to stop it because some of the law makers thought it might end the world. mom's get pretty freaked out when they are intent on raising their little beloveds. i've always been quite right brained and am doing my best to get that other side working. that's why i need your help with this, i don't really "get" it. i have not been able to find any new articles on this, which is odd. i found this one, but it's a year old:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/science/15cern.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
"fabiola gianotti, a cern physicist and the deputy spokeswoman for the team that built the atlas, said, “something must happen.”
the accelerator, dr. gianotti explained, would take physics into a realm of energy and time where the current reigning theories simply do not apply, corresponding to an era when cosmologists think that the universe was still differentiating itself, evolving from a primordial blandness and endless potential into the forces and particles that constitute modern reality."

[Sigini]

i found a better site about cern:
http://www.exploratorium.edu/origins/cern/#

actually, from reading mr. wilcock's writings and viewing his interviews, i am thinking his opinion about cern would be the same as with nuclear arms. i am thinking he would feel that the entities that are guiding this paradigm into enlightenment would not allow the cern operation to interfere with this awakening/ascension event. ;)

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

the accelerator, dr. gianotti explained, would take physics into a realm of energy and time where the current reigning theories simply do not apply, corresponding to an era when cosmologists think that the universe was still differentiating itself, evolving from a primordial blandness and endless potential into the forces and particles that constitute modern reality."

hi sigini,

this could be compared to the creator thinking up "thinking", dreaming up "dreams", seeing "sight", creating "creativity", touching on "touch", willing up "will", observing "observation". i think the fear is related to facing "truths" the creator observing it's own act of observation is tough to swallow. maybe those "forces and particles that constitute modern reality" are simply our conscious perceptions in 3d which are extreemly limited but also quite dense. our so called "current reigning theories" may also be confined to these limited dense perceptions. this limited perception may correlate to a level of consciousness, which may simply be regulated by time, a period or quanta. this machine may represent the ego's seperated way of peeking in on other quantas, forcefully through it's extreemly limited perception in 3d. looking for ways to cheat death (illusion), the ego longs for ways to immitate the spirit. anybody who has had a taste of conscious awareness knows that perception or observation is simply the creator looking in on itself. now if our spirit or higher-self has a multiple level of perception, this might explain why the ego is so anxious to fire-up the machine before the end arrives. on the other hand conscious awareness has no use for the machine other than the simple act of wanting to share it's perception (observation) with the one infinite creator.:) .............sylvain.................

[Sigini]

"on the other hand conscious awareness has no use for the machine other than the simple act of wanting to share it's perception (observation) with the one infinite creator." sylvain

thanks sylvain, that is what i needed to hear. :)

[Mozart]

i am thinking he would feel that the entities that are guiding this paradigm into enlightenment would not allow the cern operation to interfere with this awakening/ascension event. ;)


that's exactly my thinking, too; therefore, i don't even worry about those things, nor do i worry about nookies, now. there's credible reports that there's nookies hidden in a number of big cities in america and, if a major foreign middle-eastern power that has an unusual stranglehold over the american political scene were to be suddenly removed with extreme prejudice, those nookies that they have tucked away would fail to be re-set, thus go off -- and i'm not even worried about those nookies, either.


in a personal channeling session that i was having years ago, i was strongly assured by the entity that we would not have any nookies go off (with the exception of some small mikro-nookies, like what happened in basra, bali, 911) anywhere in the world at any time. he assured me that our benevolent guardians have the abilities to dud any nookie anywhere in the world at anytime, so there's really nuth'n to worry about, thank god.

[Sigini]

thank you for providing the information from your channeling and your opinion, mozart. :) i'm a mother of grown children and two are in major cities so that part you mentioned, "with the exception of some small mikro-nookies, like what happened in basra, bali, 911" concerns me somewhat.
i watched mr. wilcock's new 2012 video he gave us as a gift for his birthday today and it validated so much of what has been happening in my realm. i think i'll continue to expect the best since that is what i'll get in 2012. but the great news is, and we all perceived it, many of us will be picking up the wave and riding to ascension before that date. a synchroncicity here, long ago, i named my landbase (to be my home in the near future when i find it) kahanu. it is the huna symbol for 'the wave of light that makes you gasp' and i'm riding that wave all the way! ;)

[SoulStride]

as you all might know, sometime in may the particle accelerator will be turned on for the first time. this accelerator is a 16 billion dollar science project that collides 2 protons at near the speed of light to mimic the conditions just after the big bang.
scientists do not know exactly what will happen. alot of scientists seem to think a black hole could appear, wormhole stargate etc. some think that it could open the door to another time. this project somewhat relates to project looking glass which david wilcock talks about in his 2012 enigma video. i was wondering if anyone on here knew if dw has mentioned anything about this.
i am a bit worried about a black hole possibly appearing, but there is also potential for a great discovery unlike any other. could this project possibly impact anything going into 2012? so many questions, i hope david sees this post! i would like to hear everyones thoughst an knowledge on this though, as it is set to launch in may(very soon) and its just mind boggling how the mainstream media isnt covering this at all. i heard about it from george noory and william henry.

[Dancinglove]

i have done a lot of reading of theory's and outcomes the leading scientific minds believe will be the outcome of this "science project"

i honestly believe if anything does happen,it will probably expose to many truths that have been kept under lock and key,that the true findings of this project will be classified.

but honestly,the thing has had so many problems getting built,that i don't think they will end up doing much with it.

it was originally supposed to be turned on like a year ago!(iirc)

[dazcox]

yeah, it's fascinating but why get all upset that a black hole might form and kill us all? nukes didn't kill us all and for years that was the big fear, famine, plagues, wars you name it and there are still more people here than ever before.

fear is not worth it. do something about the bad things that are in your path but don't worry about what's around the corner because someone told you to worry about it.

[newborn]

hi all,

i've just read this thread and something just "hit" me that i would like to share with you.

"this accelerator is a 16 billion dollar science project that collides 2 protons at near the speed of light to mimic the conditions just after the big bang.
scientists do not know exactly what will happen. alot of scientists seem to think a black hole could appear, wormhole stargate etc. some think that it could open the door to another time."
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in my humble opinion, if anything "unknown" would happen i don't think it would be a threat to us. i'll try to explain, although my vocabulary is not as rich as yours. (english is not my native language and all that.)

sure, if 2 protons would collide at near speed of light-faster than ever before attempted-some stuff will happen that is new to our scientific "priesthood".
for me it is unlogical that black holes will appear, or stargates.
first of all just because of the scale of things. despite the speed and the relative increase of mass due to it, there is still simply not enough mass for these extreme things to occur.
(this information just came in while reading this) i "feel" that in a collision there will be a huge amount of neutrino's as a result. also very likely is that there will be a scientific confirmation of the existence of tachyons. proof of their existence, no longer just "virtual particles" if you know what i mean.

secondly, i cannot imagine that "they" will be observing "conditions just after the big bang" from the collision of just 2 protons, regardless with whatever speed they are hitting eachother. imho it would be ridiculous that our universe(or any other for that matter) came into existence from a collision of particles in the first place. not even on a small scale within a particle accelerator. (please don't get me wrong, i don't mean to critisize what is written before my post; i really am not)

if something exotic would appear (like black holes and wormholes) chances are slim that nature will allow it to "live" very long. after all we are still on 3d earth and there is still the strong force of gravity ripping it apart in a rather short period of time.
still i do admit this is unknown territory but is that a prerequisite for something "terrible" to happen? i don't think so.
nature will balance any anomaly that is not "natural" to exist in this frequency plane.

i am not a scientist, i just apply logic in combination with my intuition that's all.
so what do you all think of this? do i make any sense here? i honestly think that we shouldn't drag ourselves into a negative, fearbased spiral because of this. afterall this is "just" natural physics applied on earth and just because it is totally new that doesn't mean that it could be disaterous.(?)

peace and light to all of you, thanks for reading, jan.

note: if i'm missing something in saying this, please let me know i am still learning.;)

[Magical_Mongoose]

i was waiting for this conversation here!
it just happened to pop up in a conversation during dinner and for the most part, people thought it to be a matter of little worry.
as usual, i just end up coming up with stuff and it sounds right...so here we go ;)
a black hole requires a super sun to form, as in an enormous ammount of initial mass to collapse upon itself. its duration is proportional to that initial mass and the speed in which it achieves gyroscopic stability....two particles could produce a black hole "seed", but it would vanish in a nanosecond as an actual formation relies upon a simultaneous smashing of billions of particles within plasma (as what occurs in a sun) as a resonant substrate.
this is a prototype device...what they do with the findings is of more importance and perhaps, of concern. but we'll see.
in relation to 2012, i see this project being more of an event we agreed upon to activate, fire ourselves up and remember hyper-dimensional reality...it will hopefully act as a catalyst for a wave of seekers throughout the world and undoutably within the scientific communities to explore what the ancients have known all along. but we'll see ;)

[dazcox]

have you noticed how our popular culture has totally stereotyped black holes as things that are dangerous and destructive and 'nothing can stop them'?

see if you can name a single non-scientific reference to a black hole that didn't emphasize that the black hole was unstoppable and the ultimate danger etc etc.

seems to me that is the reason why the story about creating little black holes was spread - it is just another thing to make people afraid.

[ThoughtOnFire]

so the world's largest experiment (on "public" record) is to run on the smallest of things? atoms!?

huh?

could it be something else??? (after all they lie/cover up/don't disclose so so soooo much!)

is the cern hadron collider on a ley line or ley intersection/convergence? if so, is they cern "hadron collider" a machine that is experimenting or even working with/controlling energy via the ley line/dragon currents?

[aqcheryl]

so the world's largest experiment (on "public" record) is to run on the smallest of things? atoms!?

huh?

could it be something else??? (after all they lie/cover up/don't disclose so so soooo much!)

is the cern hadron collider on a ley line or ley intersection/convergence? if so, is they cern "hadron collider" a machine that is experimenting or even working with/controlling energy via the ley line/dragon currents?

i still think they already have it up and running - and that perhaps all the 'delays' are because something happened to make them go 'classified'. they know they have to disclose, but how long can they wait it out.

[Nomadess 2012]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?pagewanted=1

[Outlaw]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?pagewanted=1

could this be connected to david's mention of disclosure before christmas ?