Is karma and illusion?

[AmelieJolie]

it says something in the law of one about transcending karma through love and forgiveness.....this is something i believe.

is it possible to be "pure"?
or is the idea of purity an imbalance?

how can we become "centered" if we are consumed by feelings of guilt or self loathing?
we are the only animal that lives in the past, punishing ourselves over and over when we only need actually pay once for each mistake.
we must learn to "be in the moment" more.

do we set up our own illusion from our own feelings of guilt?
perhaps this is the matrix of our own thought that keeps us coming back.

whereas if all is one, and if "infinite love is the only truth" (which i have known since i was a child after having this experience).....then isn't love all that counts?

if love is all that counts, then i believe this in itself is reason enough for an older, wiser soul to be here....or any soul who "tunes in" to the realization, because life down here is a little messed up, and some of the suffering that takes place doesn't need to be so extreme- that- i feel- isn't necessary for the process of evolution......it is just a part of the dream we've created.

just sharing my thoughts. ;)

[Lorik]

thanks for sharing, and a very good flow to your thoughts as well!

i find it helpful, when thinking about karma, to seperate the "fake i's" from my "true self." the fake is, the egos that are attatched to each of our chakras, always want, always desire this or desire that, never listening to any advice of wise people or more importantly, our higher selves.

once we realize that one way to stop being a desirous, guild-ridden narcisist is to stop identifying yourself with those ideas, then we really begin to find ourself. once we find our true self, then we can center it and find balance.

i've always found that someone who is constantly viewing the world through the ego is always saying "how can i profit" and "how can i keep myself from pain" - while the person who's centered, or as david put it, practicing "online thinking" (which i love as an analogy) is naturally going to be the balance between service to self and service to others, which in the long run, we see as being service to others.

the one who is using online thinking doesn't bound themselves mentally to karma - in other words, they don't look for ways for karma to "punish" them, thus perhaps bringing it on themselves. if you do have excess negative karma, then the time will come for you to repay it - the worst thing we could do is "look" for karma to "fix" us. it's our job to simply live and do our best right now.

[eagle13]

amazing! that is the exact process i'm going thru right now. i have forgiven others, now i'm forgiving self. a much more difficult thing for me to do. ah but the lessons are coming fast and furious now! my heart only just opened in september! what a fantastic ride. from where i'm sitting you hit the nail right on the head. some of the catylast may not be necessary for some, but vital for others, in awakening from the nightmare! i am still gaining my sea legs. everything is brand new to me. what a wonderful life its become, pain and all. thanks so much for your post, much wisdom in those words. peace, and love, your's in service, doug

[Silvanus Sanctus Germanus]

hi doug,nice to see you on board:)

sylvain

[soup]

is it possible to be "pure"?
or is the idea of purity an imbalance?

how can we become "centered" if we are consumed by feelings of guilt or self loathing?


i think that the idea of pursuing purity can offer some advantage at the trade off of toxicity. the silicon crystals within the computer is highly pure to parts per million, and the dopants used within their transisters as parts per million toxic.

by metaphor, i think one of the reasons that the ra materials can seem difficult to comprehend is a desire by ra to balance such toxic nature - by way of such question and answer structure that seems to dilute toxicity.

recently i found by "past life regression" that some of my feelings of guilt and self loathing were likely due to something that happened to me in a past life. i think that for some, this is why they seems sorrowful. it may be that by a process of past life regression such sorrow can be reconciled somehow.


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[AmelieJolie]

perhaps karma is an illusion of the matrix which attaches itself to our energetic vibration and consciousness, resulting being that we become more and more trapped within the binds of this collective dream.....

perhaps the "infinite creator" (or the infinite that we're searching for) is actually beyond vibration.

[soup]

...perhaps karma is an illusion of the matrix which attaches itself to our energetic vibration and consciousness, resulting being that we become more and more trapped within the binds of this collective dream.....


there was this theory i had that the auric body might resemble a neuron cell, some with many dendrites that grow connected to other dendrites as within the matrix of a mind. in this model, sto seems a path of better integrating oneself into such social complex matrix, while an sts path may promote isolation - like a neuron cell which is free of attachment.

moreover, i think that there can be a dominance within a person's connections or attachments and that part of managing life seems managing such balance of interconnection and attachments. here it seems there's a component of choice - what connections does one foster and which do they work to severe - in chance more benevolent and life enhancing connections may be made?

here the mention of banishing ritual or some other means of detachment may help a person. possibly the idea of forgiveness is like a sword or scissor that helps a person balance, accept, and let go in some life enhancing way.


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[soup]

is it possible to be "pure"?
or is the idea of purity an imbalance?


there's the astrological sign of "virgo" that relates to the concept of vesta, the idea of "cleanliness as next to godliness."

there may be a connection to compatibility - that people who tend to be "careful" may tend to be more "clean" and "considerate" and hence more "compatible" with a great variety of other people. by way of this compatibility, they may be able to study and learn in some way which fosters their growth.

much of the western health system has as cornerstone the notion of sanitation in a way which seems conducive to healing. so the notion of purity in this sense is more about an absense of toxin than of purity of toxin.


soup